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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 04:05 PM by Blaine91555

Thank you Mike. It is nice to see some photo's that have some credibility.

You mentioned that there are others. Will you be posting those at a later date?

It is pretty weird that the Airlines are so sensitive. That is one of the things that holds my interest.

I always try and sit at a window on planes just in case. I generally have a bag full of Professional Nikon equipment at my feet. Perhaps someday.

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 04:06 PM by palehorse23

The pic taken over the Rocky mountains looks like one of the hats worn by the group DEVO in their video, the one that goes "Whip it, whip it good".

No disrespect to the thread but gotta be honest. The other pics are rather interesting though.

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 04:15 PM by Yknot

Originally posted by internos
reply to post by mikesingh

Mike, another great thread from you Star & Flag.
I've found some more pics of the third one that you have posted:

Courtesy: Rense www.rense.com

admin edit: To add Rense's URL

[edit on 2-13-2008 by Springer]

I always thought this to be very similar to the object filmed from the helicopter at the WTC in 2000.

[edit on 13-2-2008 by Yknot]

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 04:29 PM by Badge01

reply to post by anotherdad

It's like we said in one thread. The reason they wouldn't go open disclosure on these is probably because they can't catch 'em, can't get close, can't explain what they are or where they're from.

Some of them might be military projects. Remember that CIA admission they used that as a cover?

I also think it's safe to say anything you can now imagine flying could be flying, including fully 'saucer' shaped (though probably RPV/UAVs).

It wouldn't be prudent for an airliner or anyone one else to put out an alarming release that our skies have been invaded, if indeed, it was an advanced version of the Stealth fighter, or bomber. So what ya' gonna do?

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 04:45 PM by Nohup

I'm not quite sure what we mean by "incontrovertible" here.
Are they photos? Well, I suppose they are.
Are they photos of UFOs? I guess they might be, since they're apparently unidentified.
Are they photos of alien space craft? Eh....

We know UFOs exist. We know there are some photos of them. No controversy there.

But if you mean to imply that these are alien space craft, then it's going to take a lot more than a photo to prove it. You can say, "What else could they possibly be?" But I can trump that with, "I don't know."

[edit on 13-2-2008 by Nohup]

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 05:06 PM by eyewitness86

reply to post by anotherdad

MOst nations on earth benefit from our largesse; we give them money and aid. If they were to disobey a ' request ' to remain silent' about certain matters that are nebulous anyway, they comply. Some nations do not have such strict observance of this, such as Mexico, but in general the smaller countries do not have the technology or resources to not only buck the USA but prove the case as well.

Would YOU want to be the leader of a small nation that pissed off the entire USA black op intel network? Not me!! If Bush could invade Iraq and Afghanistan as part of the 9-11 PNAC plan, and they did nothing at all wromng..then imagine what they might do to someone who blew the cover on their biggest secret of all...it might not be pretty.

The USA and Russia and China ,along with some allies, control the really important information and I am sure in no uncertain terms they let the leaders of other nations know that this is one thing to leave alone. Most of them do so and will continue to do so until full disclosure is upon us.

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 05:07 PM by BurningBeard

Originally posted by maybereal11
As a companion to this line of evidence...I just saw the History Channels UFO/Black Box evidence the other night. It reviews cockpit recordings from commercial and military pilots from UFO sightings. Very Interesting.

I just recently saw this documentary myself; it really brings forth a lot of good points and interesting cases.
It`s a must see in my opinion!

Like mike here said, pilots make credible witnesses.
They spend hundreds of hours in the air, and most of them WILL KNOW the difference between weather-effects etc, and something that is really worth getting worked up about.

Consider this one flagged and stared mate

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 05:08 PM by BlasteR

I think it's also noteworthy that when investigators were conducting "research" into UFO sightings for their final report in project bluebook, they excluded an extremely credible and important source of UFO sighting information. Pilots in the military. (and other military personnel for that matter).

For project bluebook, no military individual was aloud to be involved. This proves that the government was cherry-picking candidates for the bluebook report (at least somewhat).

I had a friend I worked with in the munitions career feild who was stationed at kunsan AB in South Korea around 1993. He said he and a few others watched as an orange triangle shaped UFO sat in one spot and made no sound above the munitions storage area. 2 Men in black suits debreifed everyone who saw the object and the witnesses were forced to sign a non-disclosure statement.

This and many UFO sightings by military personnel are actually monitored and investigated quite well by internal means. God knows how many reports, photos, videos from military personnel are being kept classified to this day.

-ChriS

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 05:09 PM by Eurisko2012

Those are all clearly pics of the planet Venus. Why are you wasting our time?

Just kidding. Great pics. I hope the UFOs will get closer so we can put
them on the front cover Popular Science magazine. They should move
closer around October 2012.
When they increase the warp field power it makes them glow
like a bright sphere.
It also consumes the Element 115 faster.

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 05:33 PM by PersonFromPorlock

Re the Lago de Cote picture, maybe I'm missing the point but it looks to me like the 'object' is being lit from 12 O'clock while the ground is being lit from 4 O'clock. This naturally arouses uncharitable thoughts both about the genuineness of the original image and the quality of analysis given to it.

As regards pilots as expert witnesses: there's an old Air Force saying, "with enough bananas you can teach a monkey to fly." The pilots I knew were pretty sharp as a group but there were definitely a few who'd caused a banana shortage in their time.

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 05:41 PM by V Kaminski

A Google Vid of "Black Box" is available online for those with an interest; linkage.

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 07:09 PM by damagemouse

Rad thread. Flagged and starred. I know a bunch of pilots - lots of this stuff is seen all the time.

These are great pics. No matter how good the picture tho the govt will deny. Just like that reporter from Stephensville being fired. Govt interference. Our government is lame.

Does Obama support disclosure?

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 07:15 PM by Kaiser Sohse

reply to post by internos

Great pics, but I'm curious about the cloud formations in these additional photos of the silver disc.

There are the 3 pics, then the close-ups, then at the bottom shown in order in one frame as though the object is moving left to right. Are the photos originally claimed to be like that? Or is it just someone else's effort to link the photos?

I understand that both vehicles are moving, and that clouds change shape, but not that much, no way.

Edit: Idunno? The more I keep looking at them, the more I'm doubting my own post? If you look at the overlpped frame, they look too different, but if you look at the 3 top-to-bottom while scrolling, they look like they could be the same? What do guys think????

[edit on 2/13/2008 by Kaiser Sohse]

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 08:04 PM by AlexZ_UK

Great pics and effort mike.

To me, this is clear evidence of controlled flying disc shaped objects...........
It would be nice to know who/what is controlling them

When will the public be informed!!!
This subject sure needs patience!!!

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 10:11 PM by anotherdad

reply to post by Badge01

I get all of that and understand, based on my ATS points i'm obviosly new and a bad speller but, really noone ever from any country for no amount money has come out. no UFO's crashed on an old mans property who took pictures and released them. Honestly i don't know if i believe or not but can't get past no physical proof ever?

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 10:14 PM by undo

Mike,

this one

what is that structure on the land to the left?

can anybody see anything in the water by the shoreline?
(hint: it's big and there's more than one)

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 10:16 PM by anotherdad

reply to post by eyewitness86

I get that but, would'nt us and our enemies be fighting over this for the technology? Maybe as ATS members we should have the owner start a kitty for the first person to come out with rock solid proof. If the price got high enough someone would come out. Please no references to Osama.

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 10:21 PM by undo

Originally posted by anotherdad
reply to post by eyewitness86

someone would come out. Please no references to Osama.

oh the arguments that would ensue!
i can just see it now. people who believe who are after the same prize,
would try to debunk each other's offering. it would be pure chaos.

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 10:28 PM by anotherdad

reply to post by undo

Sounds a little like what ni've been reading on other threads. But dont you think it would get us closer or something new?

reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 11:43 PM by mikesingh

Originally posted by V Kaminski
A Google Vid of "Black Box" is available online for those with an interest; linkage.

Thanks Vic! That was an excellent vid!

Skeptics are still making ironical comments about UFOs. One often heard is "If there were UFOs, how do you explain that pilots do not meet them in the skies?" Well, they do, and sometimes pilots wonder if they will not meet just a little too close... and, this time, it seems it happened….

Below is the radio transmission between a 20-year old Australian pilot Frederick Valentich, and ground control. He had a Class 4 instrument rating and disappeared over Bass Strait, off south-eastern Australia in 1978, while he headed to King Island, between the Australian mainland and Tasmania. Most likely it was a consequence of the contact between the aircraft and a UFO.

Here’s the extracts of the actual radio transmission between Valentich and the Melbourne Flight Service. (FS - Flight Service, DSJ - Frederick Valentich aircraft designation). The complete transmission can be found here…

19:06:14

DSJ: Melbourne, this is Delta Sierra Juliet. Is there any known traffic below five thousand?

FS: Delta Sierra Juliet, no known traffic.

DSJ: Delta Sierra Juliet, I am, seems to be a large aircraft below five thousand.

19:06:44

FS: Delta Sierra Juliet, What type of aircraft is it?

DSJ: Delta Sierra Juliet, I cannot affirm, it is four bright, and it seems to me like landing lights.

19:07:31

DSJ: Melbourne, this is Delta Sierra Juliet, the aircraft has just passed over me at least a thousand feet above.

FS: Delta Sierra Juliet, roger, and it is a large aircraft, confirmed?

DSJ: Er-unknown, due to the speed it's traveling, is there any air force aircraft in the vicinity?

FS: Delta Sierra Juliet, no known aircraft in the vicinity.

19:08:48

DSJ: Delta Sierra Juliet, it seems to me that he's playing some sort of game, he's flying over me two, three times at speeds I could not identify.

FS: Delta Sierra Juliet and you confirm you cannot identify the aircraft?

DSJ: Affirmative.

19:09:42

FS: Delta Sierra Juliet, can you describe the -ER- aircraft?

DSJ: Delta Sierra Juliet, as it's flying past it's a long shape (open microphone for three seconds) cannot identify more than it has such speed (open microphone for three seconds). It's before me right now.
It seems like it's stationary. What I'm doing right now is orbiting and the thing is just orbiting on top of me also. It's got a green light and sort of metallic like, it's all shiny on the outside.

DSJ: Delta Sierra Juliet, the engine is rough-idling. I've got it set at twenty three twenty-four and the thing is coughing.

FS: Delta Sierra Juliet, roger, what are your intentions?

DSJ: My intentions are - ah - to go to King Island - ah - Melbourne. That strange aircraft is hovering on top of me again (open microphone for two seconds). It is hovering and it's not an aircraft.
Delta Sierra Juliet. Melbourne (open microphone for seventeen seconds).
(An unexplained sound abruptly terminated the voice communications.)

Ref:
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