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Topic started on 13-2-2008 @ 08:24 AM by mikesingh
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Why have I chosen photographs of UFOs taken by pilots? Credibility! Unfortunately, though there have been a number of recent reports of pilots
reporting UFO movements, there have been no pics taken by them from the cockpit for authentication. So I dug for more info and this is what turned up.
There are more, but this would have to do for the present.
Is this incontrovertible evidence of the existence of UFOs? Or can the debunkers get to work here in an attempt to prove these sightings are nothing
but hoaxes/reflections/camera malfunctions, and so on?
Photograph by RCAF pilot Childerhose over the
Canadian Rockies near Ft. MacCleod, Alberta.
Courtesy: Hypernet
Royal Canadian Air Force pilot R. J. Childerhose, while flying in a 4 plane formation at an altitude of about 11 km on 27-Aug-1956 7:20PM, saw and
photographed a bright, sharply-defined disk, that was remaining stationary between the clouds.
Analysis
Photograph by Pilot John R. English, San Jacinto,
California USA, 16-Jul-1988.
Courtesy: Hypernet.
From the pilot's report to NUFORC:
"The photo was taken by another sailplane pilot that was flying right seat in the Mooney for that purpose (ed: to take photos of the other
sailplane). The object most resembled a very bright sphere, much like a mirrored ball, with a distorted area opposite from its direction of travel."
Details of sighting
Frame grab of a spectacular video of a silver disk object
recorded by a military pilot on September 29, 2001.
Courtesy: UFO Evidence.
"I was on a flight over Budapest, Hungary," said the pilot, who has requested that his name be withheld until the official inquiry by the
Hungarian Ministry of Defence is complete. "To my left I saw a bright metal aircraft that was the shape of a perfect disk. I was careful to film the
object, not to try and chase it since it I could not match its speed. As I was flying a reconnaissance aircraft, I got the idea to film it and used
our equipment."
The unusual photograph was taken by the crew of an official mapping aircraft of the
Costa Rican government, flying at 10,000 feet over Lago de Cote, Arenal region.
Courtesy: forgetomori.
“In summary, our analyses have suggested that an unidentified, opaque, aerial object was captured on film at a maximum distance of 10,000 feet.
There are no visible means of lift or propulsion and no surface markings other than darker regions that appear to be nonrandom. This case must remain
“open” until further information becomes available.”
The pilot of a twin engine C-47 "Skytrain" transport
aircraft of the USAF captured this reddish object on
photograph in July 1966 at 11:00am. The aircraft was
flying over the Rocky Mountains, at about 40 kilometers
South-West of Provo, Utah.
Courtesy: ufologie.net
A retired Air Force pilot presented two 35 mm. slides, showing a red saucer-like object against a background of sky and clouds. He claimed to have
taken the pictures from the pilot's seat of a C-47 in flight before he retired from the Air Force. The witness' reputation is irreproachable.
UFO photographed from a police plane in Puebla, Mexico, 1991.
Courtesy: The Biggest Secret Forum
Cheers! We may not be alone after all!
Ref:
www.hyper.net...
www.ufoevidence.org...
forgetomori.com...
ufologie.net...
thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr...
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 08:29 AM by Karlhungis
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Nice thread. I have often wondered what kind of strange things pilots see when they are up there. The first pic looks more like an atomic bomb than
a ufo to me....
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 08:37 AM by flice
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You sure know how to sell your threads through titles, Mike... this is a one line post.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 08:44 AM by Xcalibur254
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You wouldn't happen to have the video mentioned in the third picture would you? Or do you know if its even been released?
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 09:10 AM by Badge01
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The Lago de Cote pic looks strange.
The 'object' is differently pixelated than the surroundings, but the original was reportedly very detailed and a detailed second-generation negative
was available for study.
Most researchers note how the top seems to be off shape, and the line of the curve isn't smooth - the border is irregular.
However, upon further investigation this case was studied by Richard Haines and Jacques Vallee. Here's a page that goes into more depth on this
one.
Lago de Cote
Oddly, when Vallee ordered the surrounding frames 299 and 301, and the object was not visible on those frames, but the camera was taking pictures
about every 17 seconds, so it's possible the object or the area was out of frame by that length of time.
It appears there is even some kind of logo or emblem. I wonder if the military would be prone to put their markings on such an experimental craft.
Finally, though it looks metallic, the reflections on the surface could -possibly- indicate a reflection, though I doubt a photoanalysis camera would
be subject to such things.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 09:26 AM by Badge01
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OK, I found an even more detailed analysis of this photograph
here:
When the analysis was done the image was deemed not to be a physical object:
Excerpt of the conclusion:
The grain patterns in the northern edge of the oval image appear to be of a different character than those in the remaining parts of the
field. Grains are smaller and more closely packed.
The photographic density is quite high, appearing to be nearly saturated at the northern boundary.
The northern edge of the image is abnormally sharp; much sharper, for example, than any physical feature on the coastline.
There is no evidence of light diffusion or halation that would normally be found adjacent to an image formed by a bright light source.
The light areas on the negative (i.e., the "portholes" on the positive image) appear to have the same photographic density as the surrounding
water.
(Use the arrows at the top of the page to go through the article, not the links on the ToC page.)
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 10:18 AM by BlackProjects
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Great topic..I know a couple pilots that told me about sitings they had. Most don't go public with the information. One guy says he has seen
unexplained objects on a dozen or so occasions.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 12:17 PM by internos
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reply to post by mikesingh
Mike, another great thread from you   Star & Flag.
I've found some more pics of the third one that you have posted:
Courtesy: Rense www.rense.com
admin edit: To add Rense's URL
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 01:02 PM by Springer
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Another well researched, excellent thread by mikesingh!
I have known quite a few pilots in my time and the common theme that seems to permeate that culture is that UFOs are for the nutters. To a man, every
pilot I've discussed the subject with has told me that IF you make a formal report you'll never make another one. It seems the aviation culture is
to deny the possibility rather than seriously investigate the incidents. O'Hare is a perfect example of that IMHO.
Dr. Richard Haines of NARCAP www.NARCAP.org has done some great work in this field and his studies support the above comment. Heck when he
proposed his totally anonymous pilot survey only ONE airline let him do it. Now why in the heck would ANY airline object to an anonymous (no names of
the airlines or the pilots) survey of its pilots asking if they have ever seen something that they could not explain or that appeared to be beyond
what is known technologically?
GREAT THREAD!
Springer...
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 01:35 PM by menguard
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I particularly like the (first one) in the sky, beautiful LIGHTSHIP.
They come into our atmosphere just like the Masters leave our World density charge. The craft has to align with this density to visit us. They go
through (frequency bands) lowering and raising their electromagnetic fields until alignment is reached and the right speed of 'light interval' is
reached.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 01:46 PM by Telos
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Wow great thread Mike
I liked especially the fourth pic. Looks so real to me. Starred and flagged.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 01:50 PM by Balez
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Nice post Mike!
I do think we will see more aerial ufo's and that the sightings will increase.
Perhaps, we can even get an end to the 'ufo', so we can call them by their real names
Star and flagged!
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 01:51 PM by el cid
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i think i've seen the video of the disk in the clouds, and i have to tell you...it is REALLY good. it darts around quite convincingly, and i
think it even comes out from the clouds at one point.....VERY impressive.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 02:01 PM by ByTor420
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I can think of one reason airlines would deny such a survey - fear. If people realized a large number of pilots saw things in the sky they could not
explain, they might be even more frearful of flying. I sure would. Just a thought.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 02:29 PM by maybereal11
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As a companion to this line of evidence...I just saw the History Channels UFO/Black Box evidence the other night. It reviews cockpit recordings from
commercial and military pilots from UFO sightings. Very Interesting. I recorded it on Tivo and am not sure when it is on next. It mentions one case
where the FAA went as far as sending a letter explicitely denying it had any material related to a specific sighting only to have some guy via FOIA
obtain detailed recordings from the FAA of the radar operators discussing the UFO. It reminded me of the O'hare sighting. The concept that the
airlines and FAA do everything possible to squash reports and inquiries is pretty well founded at this point, the only question is why? Simple fear of
what the public's response would be to admitting that they don't have complete dominion over our air space and that there are unknown variables or
government interference in relation to a larger conspiracy...possibly both? I lean toward the first motivation.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 02:29 PM by snoopyuk
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another excellent post mike !! star and flag sir !
and i totally agree with Springer, why the airlines dont want to investigate is crazy !!
Thanks Mike
snoopyuk
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 02:35 PM by jainatorres
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I spoke to an F18 pilot once (online but I verified he really was a pilot) who said they do see things but wouldn't talk about it further..just an
anecdotal snippet..
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 03:21 PM by anotherdad
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No atomic bomb if you look close you can see it's the glow from Husky stadium on gameday. Go Dawgs.
On a serios note, Has there ever been a logical explanation as to why no other country has bucked the trend and given the world info or proof on these
sightings. I find it hard to believe that nothing would have ever leaked showing verifiable proof.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 03:32 PM by templar knight
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Great post - it would be interesting to know how much the airlines would lose if pilots were "free" to report UFOs. I bet they have worked this out
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 03:41 PM by pmexplorer
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Great thread Mike
I'm sure it's been posted on here somewhere but some
excellent evidence was provided by these mexican air force pilots :
" summary: Mexican Air Force pilots filmed 11 unidentified flying objects in the skies over southern Campeche state in Mexico, a Mexican
Defense Department spokesman confirmed. A videotape was made widely available to the news media. The lights were filmed using infrared equipment. They
appeared to be flying at an altitude of about 3,500 meters (11,480 feet), and allegedly surrounded the Air Force jet."
www.ufoevidence.org...
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