Mysterious Pyramids of China, page 1
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Topic started on 12-2-2008 @ 10:11 PM by IvanZana


Deep within China near the ancient capitol of Xi'an lies a series of pyramid mounds virtually unknown outside the country. Entwined with the reality of these remote tombs, lies a legend of an even greater pyramid seldom seen; a pyramid of such size and grandeur as to put all the other pyramids of the world to shame. This is the legend of the white pyramid of China.

China’s Great Pyramids Controversy

Despite speculation about the existence of great pyramids in China, archaeologists and bureaucrats have refused to consider even the rumours about such structures. But recent pictorial evidence proves that China’s pyramids are indeed real, rivalling those of Egypt and Central America for their age, size and significance
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ANCIENT PYRAMIDS IN CHINA
Hartwig Hausdorf, a researcher in Germany, sent over these photographs from his collection, taken during his 1994 trip to the Forbidden Zone in The Shensi Province in China. Estimates for an age are 4,500 years old, but Hausdorf mentions the diaries of two Australian traders who, in 1912, met an old Buddhist monk who told them these pyramids are mentioned in the 5,000 year old records of his monastery as being "very old."
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What I find most intruiging is that around 5000 b.c, everone in the world was building pyramids just like everyone today build 4 walled houses and skyskrapers.



I am hoping the diligent members of ATS would like to expose this further.
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reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 04:55 AM by Essan
The Chinese 'pyramids' are burial tombs covered in earth. The famous terracotta army came from near one of them - the emperor's tomb itself has not been excavated. The 'white pyramid' is a natural hill.

www.trilobia.com...

The interesting thing about pyramids is that whilst they've been built all over the world, they were all built at completely different times, for completely different reasons, using completely different styles and construction methods. Odd that


reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 11:52 AM by Harte
Originally posted by IvanZana
ANCIENT PYRAMIDS IN CHINA
Hartwig Hausdorf, a researcher in Germany, sent over these photographs from his collection, taken during his 1994 trip to the Forbidden Zone in The Shensi Province in China. Estimates for an age are 4,500 years old, but Hausdorf mentions the diaries of two Australian traders who, in 1912, met an old Buddhist monk who told them these pyramids are mentioned in the 5,000 year old records of his monastery as being "very old."
www.lauralee.com...

Note the bolded portion.

Either Hausdorf is lying, or these (possibly not imaginary) "Austrian traders" were lied to by a Buddhist monk. Myself, I'd guess the former, since Hausdorf continues to perpetuate the hoax about the "Dropa Stones" even to this day.

Chinese writing only dates to around 4,000 years ago.

There cannot possibly be any "5,000 year old monastery records" in existence in China.

Originally posted by IvanZanaWhat I find most intruiging is that around 5000 b.c, everone in the world was building pyramids just like everyone today build 4 walled houses and skyskrapers.

At the risk of being called "anal" by liv074_v.2, I have to disagree with you here.

There was not a single pyramid in existence in 5,000 B.C.

There was never a point in history where "everybody was building pyramids."

Harte



reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 05:34 PM by Telos
reply to post by Harte



How come that in every thread that is mentioned antiquity including pyramids you are going to be always the 'debunker' one? What makes you so sure that you're right and all the rest are wrong? What the orthodox archeology says? Or what the official academic position is, regarding ancient civilization? And why are Dropa Stones a hoax? Because don't match with the timeline and the orthodox point of view about our ancient past? Or because some die hard archaeologist lid screwed to the 3000 b.c. starting point of the civilization can't accept otherwise? Did you ever think for a moment, what if you were wrong? And also think for that moment how able you'll be to swallow everything you've said so far in all the threads. Gee man, you're becoming worst than Marduk


reply posted on 14-2-2008 @ 02:59 AM by liv074_v.2
Originally posted by Harte
Originally posted by IvanZana
ANCIENT PYRAMIDS IN CHINA
Hartwig Hausdorf, a researcher in Germany, sent over these photographs from his collection, taken during his 1994 trip to the Forbidden Zone in The Shensi Province in China. Estimates for an age are 4,500 years old, but Hausdorf mentions the diaries of two Australian traders who, in 1912, met an old Buddhist monk who told them these pyramids are mentioned in the 5,000 year old records of his monastery as being "very old."
www.lauralee.com...

Note the bolded portion.

Either Hausdorf is lying, or these (possibly not imaginary) "Austrian traders" were lied to by a Buddhist monk. Myself, I'd guess the former, since Hausdorf continues to perpetuate the hoax about the "Dropa Stones" even to this day.

Chinese writing only dates to around 4,000 years ago.
There cannot possibly be any "5,000 year old monastery records" in existence in China.


so, what are you saying. the textbook is never wrong..?
and, therefore, these reports of 5,000yr old monastery records (..making them now the oldest, obviously), can be dismissed out of hand because of such..?

Originally posted by Harte
Originally posted by IvanZanaWhat I find most intruiging is that around 5000 b.c, everone in the world was building pyramids just like everyone today build 4 walled houses and skyskrapers.

At the risk of being called "anal" by liv074_v.2, I have to disagree with you here.

There was not a single pyramid in existence in 5,000 B.C...

you've seen the detailed archaeological findings by impartial professionals (regarding these pyramids, and their age)..??
may we see them..?

of course, again, we cant have them being 4 or 500 years or so older than the present accepted concensus, can we.
dismissed, out of hand.

There was never a point in history where "everybody was building pyramids."

Harte


was there 'a time' when it seems..
that the earliest civilisations, however seperate from each other,
went about building pyramids;

many of such size and quality,
..that they would suppass anything built ever since..?

seemingly, was there..?


[edit on 14/2/08 by liv074_v.2]


reply posted on 14-2-2008 @ 07:37 AM by Harte
Originally posted by Telos
And why are Dropa Stones a hoax? Because don't match with the timeline and the orthodox point of view about our ancient past? Or because some die hard archaeologist lid screwed to the 3000 b.c. starting point of the civilization can't accept otherwise?

No, because the original hoaxer admitted the hoax.

What else do you want?

Originally posted by liv074_v.2
Originally posted by Harte

Chinese writing only dates to around 4,000 years ago.
There cannot possibly be any "5,000 year old monastery records" in existence in China.


so, what are you saying. the textbook is never wrong..?
and, therefore, these reports of 5,000yr old monastery records (..making them now the oldest, obviously), can be dismissed out of hand because of such..?

Let me ask you this, then.

Where are these "ancient monastery records?"

Are you saying that every single Archaeologist that accepts that Sumerian Cuneiform is the earliest form of writing ever found is wrong?
Originally posted by Telos
Originally posted by Harte
Originally posted by IvanZanaWhat I find most intruiging is that around 5000 b.c, everone in the world was building pyramids just like everyone today build 4 walled houses and skyskrapers.

At the risk of being called "anal" by liv074_v.2, I have to disagree with you here.

There was not a single pyramid in existence in 5,000 B.C...

you've seen the detailed archaeological findings by impartial professionals (regarding these pyramids, and their age)..??
may we see them..?

of course, again, we cant have them being 4 or 500 years or so older than the present accepted concensus, can we.
dismissed, out of hand.

More like 2400 years "or so." The fact is, even Egyptologists will allow a little wiggle room on the exact date of construction at Giza. Current theories differ by as much as 150 years.

There exist relics, discovered by Archaeologists, in Egypt from the time period around 5,000 B.C. (and earlier.)
The forerunners of the Egyptians from this time period did not construct temples, homes, or other buildings, from cut stone.

This is known, whether you know it or not, and whether you prefer to believe it or not.

Originally posted by Telos
There was never a point in history where "everybody was building pyramids."

Harte


was there 'a time' when it seems..
that the earliest civilisations, however seperate from each other,
went about building pyramids;

many of such size and quality,
..that they would suppass anything built ever since..?

seemingly, was there..?

Actually, no there was not. Like I said.

There are other structures on Earth that date from around the time of the Giza pyramids, but these are not pyramids.

The Mesoamerican pyramids were built over a thousand years after the Egyptian ones. During a time when even the Egyptians no longer remembered how their forefathers had constructed the Giza pyramids.

There aren't any other pyramids. There are mounds of earth. Mound-building predates the pyramid-building era of Egypt, this too is well known and researched.

If you wish to call a dirt mound a "pyramid," then you and I are discussing two very different structures.

Harte


reply posted on 14-2-2008 @ 09:25 AM by Telos
reply to post by Harte



Hey Harte

Your quoting stuff under my name that I didn't write. Is that possible that the speculation can go so far?


reply posted on 14-2-2008 @ 10:46 AM by Harte
Originally posted by Telos
reply to
post by Harte



Hey Harte

Your quoting stuff under my name that I didn't write. Is that possible that the speculation can go so far?


Very sorry Telos.

My mistake. Your name was still on my clipboard. I'll fix it shortly as I'm at work right now.

Again, sorry.

Harte

P.S.

Liv,

The 500 or so years is much better.

Of course, if I had thought the poster meant "5,000years ago" instead of "5000 B.C." then my post would have been different.

Not on the Dropa subject, though. That story is a big fat line of hooey.

Also, there has never been any Chinese writing found that dates to earlier than 4,000 years ago. Early forms of Chinese script follow a logical evolution into writing. The early pictograms are what date to 4,000 years ago, not full-fledged writing.

As you can see, this means either that no "5,000 year old monastery records" exist, or that there is a monastery somewhere in China that has examples of earlier than ever before known Chinese writing that two "Austrian traders," who weren't even looking for it, were able to find info about but the entire field of archaeology has never been able to find out about.

Lastly, I don't believe that there exists in China any order of monks that has been in existence for 5,000 years.

Of course, maybe I'm wrong on that last part. Look it up for me, will you?

Harte
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