So...America freed black people, right?, page 2
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reply posted on 12-2-2008 @ 09:50 PM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by TheoOne



Please explain your reasoning for this? My curiosity is piqued.


reply posted on 12-2-2008 @ 09:58 PM by realmatrix
Originally posted by TheoOne
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All right, if you're not being sarcastic, then apology understood. Don't get me wrong, I don't like stupid people either (I do believe in education, duh) but it's just I was looking for the answer after my question.

If America existed with one race, I think there would be much less crime and everything would probably be perfect. I don't know.

[edit on 12-2-2008 by TheoOne]


Where do live? It appears that you live in a fairly homogeneic area. I think the best part of the US are the different cultures.....European, italian, asian, hispanic and african americans.....crime is a part of every culture.....

There is far less crime in Saudi Arabia...but then again there are lots of lost freedoms under their system.




[edit on 12-2-2008 by realmatrix]



reply posted on 12-2-2008 @ 10:00 PM by ChronMan
Originally posted by TheoOne
reply to
post by realmatrix



All right, if you're not being sarcastic, then apology understood. Don't get me wrong, I don't like stupid people either (I do believe in education, duh) but it's just I was looking for the answer after my question.

If America existed with one race, I think there would be much less crime and everything would probably be perfect. I don't know.

[edit on 12-2-2008 by TheoOne]


Ohh the irony...

Seriously, do you analyze anything before you draw conclusions?
Poverty/Extreme Need breeds most crime, not Race.
If this website existed without your logic, everything would be perfect.

Ignorance was definitely not denied in your post. In fact, you built a nice little dwelling for it to reside in.



[edit on 12-2-2008 by ChronMan]


reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 01:32 AM by jackinthebox
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck



However, I don't think you'll find many blacks that equate the two...and rightfully so. Being a debt slave is one thing, but it isn't the same as being chattel...you can't be beaten, sold, nor have your family snatched away never to be seen again. You may be indentured...but you're not property.


Tell that to the black inmates who make up the majority of the prison population in the US. Most of them are there because of a lack of real opportunity to even subsist. Growing up in a violent and impoverished community practically gurantees that a black man will die or go to prison before he is 25.

EDIT to add: I think the reason the two aren't generally equated is because they hear the same propoganda as everyone else.



[edit on 2/13/0808 by jackinthebox]


reply posted on 13-2-2008 @ 08:07 AM by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by TheWalkingFoxIt's an incremental difference. Kind of like "Would you rather be shot, or be shot while wearing dirty underwear?" - Obviously you'd rather die with clean briefs, but either way, you're getting shot.


Yes, but if I'm gonna go, I'd rather die on my feet than on my knees. Ask some black friends, please, and get back to us.

Originally posted by Ahabstar
Doubtful as even empiral Japan, a very closed society, had extreme racism against the people whose ancestors were garbage collectors.


There is actually an indigeous Japanese race called the Ainu. They don't like to talk about it much...their record is about as good as ours.

Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to
post by JohnnyCanuck



Being a debt slave is one thing, but it isn't the same as being chattel...you can't be beaten, sold, nor have your family snatched away never to be seen again. You may be indentured...but you're not property.

Tell that to the black inmates who make up the majority of the prison population in the US.]


Call that oppression, call it what you want, but don't call it slavery, which is legally sanctioned private ownership of another human being. To compare the two trivializes the slavery experience and the advances made by the Civil Rights movement.

Ask any Jew how they feel about the word Holocaust being casually bandied about and you'll get the same lecture.

It may seem to you like it's a splitting of hairs...but it matters. Once again, go to your black friends for comment...show them this thread, and see what the response is.

[edit on 13-2-2008 by JohnnyCanuck]
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