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There is no good purpose of evil.
The LORD hath made all things for himself:yea,even the wicked for the day of evil.
Originally posted by The Parallelogram
This may be a minor point, but it's something that occurred to me...
the quoted passage reads "6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them."
This does not seem to count Satan among the Angels. If this was before the fall of Satan, the coming of "the angels" would imply his presence without the need for noting it.
I always liked the book of Job, for the sheer fact that it reveals a more complex dynamic between Creator and Adversary than the more Manichean black-and-white theology espoused in much of the rest of the Bible.
Lucifer was an Archangel, who fell, people say because he questioned god regarding the treatment of man (adam, eve, lilith), leading to a war in heaven and expulsion from said celestial body.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
No, Lucifer "fell" because of these 7 words: "I will be like the most high."
It's in Isaiah. He wanted to be worshiped.
Originally posted by Lucifersjester
I think that in the garden of eden lucifer was the good guy and god was the bad guy who didnt want us to have knowledge and to follow him blindly
Originally posted by TheDuckster
This has been plaguing me forever.
According to the Bible, there was a 'war in heaven', to which one of God's Angel - Michael, cast out Satan and 1/3 of the other rebellious angels.
What puzzles me is the Book of Job.
NIV Version
Job's First Test
6 One day the angels [a] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan 7 also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?"
Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it."
It is my understanding that Lucifer was (in the beginning) 'God's right hand man', so to speak, and was more than likely 'privy' to high councel.
When he was ousted from heaven, it appears as though he wasn't ousted for good - according to the biblical text provided above.
He shows up one day, along side other angels, to take counsel with God.
God doesn't kick him out again, but rather holds a meeting; including Satan - regarding decision making plans for God's servant Job.
What's going on here folks?
~Ducky~
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[edit on 7/18/2008 by kinglizard]