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Originally posted by gluetrap
I have had the feeling more than once that many of these christian fundmentalist extremists would not think twice about erecting that pole and setting the fires ablaze once again.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by undo
Well, as they say, "if it bleeds, it leads." News ALWAYS focuses on the negative.
The sad thing is, you seem to be assuming that everyone buys into that negative news except you. You do know that people are perfectly capable of having their own experiences and information without sucking at the teat of CNN, right?
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by undo
Had he given you even a brief and cursory approach to them, would you have felt so driven to go and learn more?
And maybe you should learn more about atheism, since I haven't yet seen a "my bad" from you for lumping them in with Nazis and claiming they all want to kill you.
[edit on 13-2-2008 by TheWalkingFox]
sitting between two people who want to have a fistfight
catholocism isnt christian
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by undo
I think you're missing the point I'm making. I don't think that every Christian and every Muslim is looking for a fight with each other. However you'd have to be a real dim bulb to pretend there's no strife between the two groups, as groups.
It's not about Bush or Osama. They're just figureheads of larger movements and undercurrents
Originally posted by gluetrap
Not trying to be argumentative here, I enjoy your sensible posts and ability to carry on a sensible conversation about this
but catholicism was the only christianity until the reformation.
And last time I checked they believe in the apostolic creed... I believe that Jesus christ is the only begotten son...I cant remember the whole thing anymore.
Isnt the base definition of a christian believeing in Jesus as the son of god, the holy trinity and salvation through jesus.
And yes originally the pagan beliefs were assimilated, but converts bring their histories and pasts with them, so even if it might once have been a pagan holiday it is now something very different...believe me, my Ostara and your easter are two very different things.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by undo
To quote another man I have respect for: WAR IS OVER (if you want it)
Originally posted by blueorder
I still cannot equate the kind of Christian "fanatacism" you see in the US with that of the islamists across the world (Sudan, Iraq, Egypt, Nigeria, Somalia etc etc)
For example, I read a book by a gay american dude recently (Name escapes me, will check at home) anyways, he used to view the world in a similar view, and left America to live in Europe to avoid "narrow minded" christians- he ended up living near a large Muslim area in Holland- this changed his worldview.
He said some of the views of the American christian fanatics were indeed repugnant to him, but he said at least they were just views and the worst they would do is placards about the damnation of the soul- at the hands of the muslims he would have to suffer potential attacks (as he frequently was) and even death
I can assure you that the placard wavers will start hanging shooting and torturing.