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If the religious would actually do as they preach and meet differences with understanding... then I wouldn't have these views. But I get crapped on for not believing almost on a daily basis without saying a thing to anyone.
Originally posted by biggie smalls
Nowhere did I mention a degree in theology,
and that wouldn't give me expertise anyway.
I do know what I'm talking about. I've had years of indoctrination that I've now broken.
Paul healed no one. He was not a healer. Yeshua was a healer. Paul was a Roman and a "bad" one at that.
Paul's message was not that of hope, peace, and love UNLIKE Yeshua. Yeshua was a great man, but a prophet (in my opinion, you are entitled to yours) NOT God.
Hitler persecuted more than just Christians and Jews, but that is another story altogether...
The Christian "Right" is a large force in this country, as we have seen with the 2000 and 2004 election with the evangelical vote.
Somehow a war mongering idiot won the Presidential election twice in a row.
I have a question for those who voted for this mad man and call themselves Christians.
In all honesty, what the hell is wrong with your moral compass?
How can a 'religion of peace' be misconstrued so badly and be used in a context for war?
Yeshua's message has fallen on deaf ears I see.
His truth speaks across the generations, yet no book can hold it.
His message is within your heart. You do not need a church or pieces of paper to tell you that.
Open your heart and you are already in the "Kingdom of God
Originally posted by johnsky
Then you see another group, lets say they believe in Santa Claus. They also attack you for not believing as equally as the tooth fairy believers do. Eventually the only peace you get is when they go at each others throats.
If the religious would actually do as they preach and meet differences with understanding... then I wouldn't have these views. But I get crapped on for not believing almost on a daily basis without saying a thing to anyone.
Me, I bite my tongue in public. On the internet, not so much. But I can say this, I have never met a religious person in the real world who will simply let the subject drop....
at first they try to convert you... if you show signs that wont work, they then turn to calling you names, like sinner... they typically proceed to tell you repeatedly that you are going to hell. They don't do it in a demeaning tone, instead they talk to you as if you are a child.
I feel sorry for your friends son for having to deal with the oppressive religious for so long that he can't retain his anger any longer.
Originally posted by projectvxn
Christians in political power here ARE a problem because they try to make morality a legislative issue. Which is where they fail time and time again. You can't legislate morality, which is what the Chinese are trying to do by cracking down on Christians, and it is what Christians are doing when they ban something that could be beneficial to the whole of mankind, and most Americans want it any way, and that is stem cell research. Who are we to tell the rest of America, who overwhelmingly voiced their opinion in favor of it, no flat out? As Americans we value democracy, unless we're trying to push an agenda. Religion when allowed state power becomes evil and faithless, as you can see by the theocracies in the middle east. We can't allow the same of Christianity here in the USA or anywhere else on Earth. And that comes from a true believer.
Originally posted by undo
Well do you think christians are a threat to your livelihood? I mean, reasonable christians! There's unreasonable people everywhere.
Do reasonable christians cramp your style? What is it about christianity that just frosts your petunias
to the point you don't mind dragging out infamous people like Hitler to attach to the already sky high heap of derogatory comments regarding christianity?
originally posted by undo
then showing up on the news and villifying christians who supposedly voted for a guy who supposedly got in by computer fraud anyway. then calling us a bunch of idiots and saying the world would be better without us and no one seems to think that sounds even remotely hitlerian. it's an atrocity waiting to happen, on a huge scale.
Originally posted by Conspiriology
The fact is this is nothing but more of the same Atheist agenda that I see being made by ATHEIST in an attempt to alarm and mislead people about the Christian Religion. If anyone needs to be looked at with any real scrutiny,, take a good look at some of the plans Neo Atheists have for the world. Then see who it was that used natural selection to bring about the Aryan race.
undo[
I do believe he meant
Hitler's Aryan Race theology
Conspiriology
Very perceptive of you Undo,, that is exactly what I meant.
It seems anybody can claim a thing but to actually be that thing, don't their actions like kinda have to match that thing? It seems to me that most infamous and deadly leaders in history have claimed christianity, making it seem like a big stinkin' pile of refuse. But when you read the words of Christ, he's like, be kind, love those who hate you, turn the other cheek, give to the needy, if someone asks for help, help them, and so on.
Jesus was not even remotely scary. He didn't advocate anyone's death. He didn't even advocate returning a punch or a slap or an angry word. Doesn't it strike you as odd that the worst LEADERS in history have all claimed to follow his teachings? Don't you smell a rat? (and don't tell me it's Jesus)
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Originally posted by projectvxn
Christians in political power here ARE a problem because they try to make morality a legislative issue. Which is where they fail time and time again. You can't legislate morality, which is what the Chinese are trying to do by cracking down on Christians, and it is what Christians are doing when they ban something that could be beneficial to the whole of mankind, and most Americans want it any way, and that is stem cell research. Who are we to tell the rest of America, who overwhelmingly voiced their opinion in favor of it, no flat out? As Americans we value democracy, unless we're trying to push an agenda. Religion when allowed state power becomes evil and faithless, as you can see by the theocracies in the middle east. We can't allow the same of Christianity here in the USA or anywhere else on Earth. And that comes from a true believer.
When has religion not been in America. Who was the last president that wasn't religious? Our forfathers were extremely religious.
The thing with stem cells is maybe we are just rushing it. Technology will solve this issue, but what we don't need is a case where women get pregnant to just sell off the fetus. I can easily see moral issues with this.
The part of his response where it says we can't legislate Morality is one of the most glaring indications as to that posters ignorance. The fact is WE HAVE LEGISLATED MORALITY AND EVEN MADE IMMORAL ACTS ILLEGAL. Does he not get that?
- Con
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Originally posted by projectvxn
Christians in political power here ARE a problem because they try to make morality a legislative issue. Which is where they fail time and time again. You can't legislate morality, which is what the Chinese are trying to do by cracking down on Christians, and it is what Christians are doing when they ban something that could be beneficial to the whole of mankind, and most Americans want it any way, and that is stem cell research. Who are we to tell the rest of America, who overwhelmingly voiced their opinion in favor of it, no flat out? As Americans we value democracy, unless we're trying to push an agenda. Religion when allowed state power becomes evil and faithless, as you can see by the theocracies in the middle east. We can't allow the same of Christianity here in the USA or anywhere else on Earth. And that comes from a true believer.
When has religion not been in America. Who was the last president that wasn't religious? Our forfathers were extremely religious.
The thing with stem cells is maybe we are just rushing it. Technology will solve this issue, but what we don't need is a case where women get pregnant to just sell off the fetus. I can easily see moral issues with this.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by undo
You know... Don't take this wrong, but you're seeming very, ah... frazzled. Maybe you should take a break, have a mug of cocoa, and just enjoy a good book? Get back to me tomorrow or something.
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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OMG I LOVE Pentecostals
LOL! That was great.
Look at them heathen dancing around the campfire. You can just tell they are about to take over the world and eat babies!
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Stormdancer777
At least you have made me laugh and that is more than anyone else has acheived during this thread.
Just my perception of things from over here, obviously this is heavily influenced by MSM, something which is out of my control.