Well my thought would be, people often say fight fire with fire. But think about it, if we fought fire with fire what do we create? a bigger fire. Do not give the extremists fuel for their propaganda by inciting hatred against all muslims and likewise with any religious group

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lol, good point, but my view is that extremists will always find a reason to hate.

They seem to have a very low tolerance threshold.

Of course the rest of us are shining paragons of virtue
Aren't we?

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That would depend entirely on how you define virtue. As to extremism, it will always exist yes, but that does not mean we should let it grow

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That's right. 80% of this nation is in real, immediate danger from the remaining 20%, even though that 20% get along with each other about as well as they get along with the initial 80%. And the 80% side will, of course, just roll over and die. Despite being the most violent, heavily-armed, power-hungry, vindictive, and connected segment of the US population.

That is exactly what you're saying, and it makes you seem very unintelligent.

Coliseum? Why are so many lions going hungry tonight?

reply to post by budski

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HI budski



Yes, I just haven't seen any thing that suggest this is happening at the moment.
Have you walked in a church lately?
Go visit some.
There are mega churches, but many other churches are almost empty, there may be an underground movement, LOLOLOLOLOL, I'm sorry I can just see the lil ole ladies now,
Well come to think about it they can be vicious,

But then there's those Pentecostals, and all their hallelujahing eeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, we're to tired to have any sorta plan for world domination............hallelujah

www.youtube.com...

OMG I LOVE Pentecostals


[edit on 062929p://bTuesday2008 by Stormdancer777]

Ok, our president thinks he talks to God. And to add to that he IS pushing a Christian Right Wing Agenda, now he is using the military in, and I quote, "A crusade against evil" in Islamic land. That is what Jihad is. And for the 50 or 60 people per attack that they kill on average, it still doesn't compare to the 500,000 to 1,000,000 people the American military has killed in turn under the order of a religious extremist by the name of George W. Bush. I don't like my faith being used in this way. And I can tell you from the things that he says, that he is, indeed, a religious nut job and using the Name of my faith to commit crimes agaist God and Country both here and abroad.

The really funny thing is they look so normal after they leave church, no one really knows ?

I spent three hours watching people laugh one night, it was the most fun I ever had, even getting drunk can't compare.

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I'll look up some links and post them - but it'll be tomorrow. It's late here,I'm tired and my back is hurting.

What I will say is that I go into churches quite regularly - I love the architecture, especially the gothic side.
And I gain a semblance of relaxation.
Plus it's cool in the summer.


I think though, that it's quite easy to laugh and denigrate and not treat things seriously.
Particularly if it's to take focus away from the issue.

unrelated general comment
jeez.

sock puppets are fashionable again.



[edit on 12/2/2008 by budski]

reply to post by The New World Order

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Isn't this thread about condemning extremism?

of any sort?

At least, that's my take on it.

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Whoa dude! What kind of drug are you on? Christians do NOT throw people into prison. In case you haven't noticed, Christians are usually the ones being thrown into prison. Heck, in canada, if you don't share their "Open minded in all things belief," they chuck you in prison.

Honestly I was not trying to do that,

It is just that Christian history being what it was, compared to what it is , all this seems unfair.

They could rise up again into a might army, who knows.



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Well, yes.
This comes back to my point about each group feeling morally superior.

Just because you feel that way doesn't make it true.
That's a generic YOU BTW.

It strikes me as strange that people take offense so easily and about simple issues.

But that could equally apply to our leaders.

Extremism sucks - where ever it's found.

after though alert

As far as Christian and Muslims being uneducated, I beg to differ on behalf of both.

night

I have the right 'NOT' to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird or tick me off.

This thread I thought was going to be something original,, but alas it is the same old manipulative attempts I see so often being done on forums like this by this group of un-believers

You know I get a little disgusted with the opinions voiced where people have made distinctions based on common denominators then make sweeping ad hom logical fallacy about that common denominator. I have been around the world twice and all over the middle east. I spent 6 years in the United States Navy I am a formally educated American one of four Children who was raised by the typical suburban working Parents. The son of a Cop who was a firm but made sure his Kids had food a roof over there heads, toys, vacations to Disney Land and a Mom who spoiled us rotten. If you listen to this garbage and yeah it IS garbage, you have to see through the thin veneer the transparent real agenda behind this thread. This isn't a Christians position to defend folks this is ours to recognise and recognise for what it is and this NOT about religious extremism this is about the same thing I see in every forum of it's kind where ATHEISTS are instigating crap like this.



Yeah that's right I am calling it like I see it budski and one look at your profile tells me all I got to know. We Christians should IGNORE YOU PEOPLE. The constant and sick twisted view of a Christians is so absolutely Revolting it is disgusting. One look and the life Atheists who are career forum warriors for there mission against Christianity on these boards and others is all you need to know. Don't defend Christianity my fellow believers in Christ, because TRUTH NEEDS NO DEFENSE. Regardless of what you say , one look at the thread creators posts and you'll see he has NO INTENTION of listening much less understanding ANYTHING you say. Learning to understand is not what they are about and the anger and hostility they have is indicative of something much more disturbing then the dis contextual interpretation given about the article he brings to scare everyone with. If you haven't been to any Atheist "evangelism" concerts where the high priestess herself Dickie Dawkinism spews his vitriolic anger while he suggests what Atheists on the internet should be doing to stop that Confounded Christian memeplex virus and start saving our children from the child abuse of being raised that way, then just take a look at this thread. It is EXACTLY one of the ideas they express and endorse. Quit buying into this garbage it is sensationalism about plans they first thought would take generations but are tired of waiting for.

All I had to see is several comments being made such as any comparison of Christianity and Islamic extremists. Ill tell you what maya and Budski and anyone else that thinks we Christians are so evil WHY DON'T YOU GO TO SYRIA OR IRAN AND MAKE SUCH COMMENTS ABOUT RELIGION OR ISLAMIC ANYTHING??

I suggest you would much rather get a reprisal from a born again Christian for attempting to once again cast the Christian religion in as evil a light as you can then get your heads ripped off over there. So Knock it off. I have the right 'NOT' to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird or tick me off. Extrozero made an excellent point and a point Atheists just don't like to acknowledge but When 70% of the people who get arrested are black in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling; it is the Law of Probability. Yet just to make that statement, some of you are already thinking what Racist! I can say Homosexuality is wrong and that isn't a Phobia it is an Opinion. While some of you are already thinking "How ignorant it was for me to say that" others with a little more intelligence then the typical pseudo intellectual Atheist, will see that what I was trying to illustrate, is called "AN EXAMPLE!"

While you attempt to portray Christians as extreme this or that, the Militant Atheist is trying to stir a pot of "Fecal Factoids" and drum up more hate like I see already expressed here for the Christian Religion. Knowing Hate tends to generalize and Love is particular, they exploit that wisdom ar every opportunity. While they lump all Christians together that way, they get indignant for even suggesting they are a group or a religion.

They are nevertheless. I don't hate the rich; I don't pity the poor and whether or not I think Homosexuality is right or wrong, I have never hesitated when asked if I could house an Aids victim and have done so. While Atheists like this are busy conjuring up images of Christians in some dungeonesque gothic looking church planning our next abortion clinic raid. What we normally do is plan our next food drive house victims from Katrina etc. This past year we put together $200,000 to pay for kids that didn't have the money to buy eye glasses so they could read. That kind of thing is what we are about but Atheists NEVER talk about that no more then when they stand corrected after they try to confuse with so called contradictions of the bible they googled off some Atheist Christian Hate website.

NO Google it yourself,

I won't do it anymore with the "Please Prove" Crap. When anyone ever does,, you keep making the same comments regardless of being given corrections about them.

The fact is this is nothing but more of the same Atheist agenda that I see being made by ATHEIST in an attempt to alarm and mislead people about the Christian Religion. If anyone needs to be looked at with any real scrutiny,, take a good look at some of the plans Neo Atheists have for the world. Then see who it was that used natural selection to bring about the Aryan race.

You guys just don't quit do you. Christians,, this thread is just more

ATHEIST FRAUD

It is Hate

- Con



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reply to post by budski

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I am not offended as much as I would not like to see people be unjustly accused of anything.

I can see that there is trouble brewing, especially in some cultures where Buddhist, Hindu and Muslims, and Christians are at each other throats, I do believe the "you know what" is going to hit the fan eventually, if we don't start communicating, but we have to stop borrowing trouble by pitting one group against another.

LOL! That was great.
Look at them heathen dancing around the campfire. You can just tell they are about to take over the world and eat babies!

I've read most of the intrepretations (which only differed in their wording, not in meaning), and I haven't understood it to mean that. I think its because I am reading with historical knowledge. Like for example, there is a place where the Quraan says, to kill the Jews whereever you see them..... this is one of the most misintrepreted lines of the Quraan people read, but thats not what it means. It was actually referring to a group of 8-12 Jews who had murdered some of the muslim diciples when there was an ongoing peace treaty between the Jews and Muslims. That was the way to bring them to Justice at the time (an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth).... but some people read it and think it means to kill all the Jews whereever you see them..... and infact, I think that the Prophet Muhammads accountant was a Jew (I've heard this many times, though I havent read it),.... so back to what you were sayin about intrepretation, I dont think that any translations of the Quraan would say that to mean that. There is always a history behind what was revealed and why it was revealed. And this is mentioned in the footnotes of the Quraan (which i think some people may skip).

hope that helps

reply to post by Conspiriology

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My vote goes to the environmental conditions and frequent in-and out migrations of people from Central Asia and the Indian subcontinent in the area of the Hindu Kush and Zagros ranges.

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"Judeo-Christian Facists" fits rather well,Britguy as does the "Islamofacists" they are gonna kill the entire world if they have thier way.

The problem with call a group a "Christian group" is there are so many definitions of "Christian":
1. A member of a "Christian" church., whether they consciously joined or were baptized or "christened" as an infant.
2. Some who calls Jesus "Lord", has a personal relationship with Him, and follows the precepts of Jesus' teachings.
3. Someone who isn't Atheist or Jewish or Buddhist, etc.
4. Someone from a Western nation who isn't isn't Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, etc.
5. Someone who attends a church on Christmas and Easter.

Any definition of "Christian" that does not include a relationship with Jesus Christ is deceptive:
Matthew 7:21-23 (New International Version)
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
www.biblegateway.com...:21-23;&version =31;