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Originally posted by Geemor
all right, it is always so discouraging to see people drooling over these monstrous killing machines. yay to the aircraft fleets that can takeoff and land to these carriers after they have bombed some terrorists and civilians. does britain (or any other country) need these kinds of stuff? who is going to attack them? or are they perhaps build for attack purposes?
i gonna lol when i see one of these or other carriers that have costs millions of people's money to sink just because they collide with the tanker when docking. or one of those planes accidentally explode under deck sinking the whole crap. why do you people support building these things? honestly?
Originally posted by fritz
The JSF is purely an offensive weapon only. We have a perfectly good aircraft for carrier operations in the Typhoon and, as I understand it, the carriers will have catapult launch capabilities and arrester wires, so there should be no problems recovering the typhoons.
Rolls-Royce has been made responsible for the UK CVF propulsion system, and its solution is centred on 2 MT30 gas turbines and electric motors driving two conventional shafts. However the French Navy is unhappy about the resulting maximum speed of under 26 kts for its 70,000 tonnes PA2 - 5,000 tonnes heaver than the UK's CVF variant. The original requirement for PA2 was 29 kts. Aker Yards, DCN Propulsion and Alstom have been talking with American company General Electric and have developed an alternative solution for PA2 which is based on 4 LM2500+G4 gas turbines - attractively the same engine as being fitted to the Franco-Italian FREMM frigates - powering a centre shaft and two propulsion pods. This solution will give about 28 kts and bring associated benefits such as better hydrodynamic efficiency (i.e. more speed for less power), increased space within the hull and improve ship manoeuvrability. At the beginning of November 2006 GE made a preliminary offer to DCN for the 4 gas turbines based upon its standard catalogue price, negotiations and discounts can be expected to follow.
Originally posted by Harlequin
hmmmm the long lead items are now being ordered -the question is - is 80,000 tons for 2 or 3 ships? and has france also started ordering for her new ship?
and the engines - any news on whether france are happy with going the same route as the royal navy or are they still pushing for more speed? this one was up in the air last i heard as the uk ship was pegged at 26knots , whilst france wanted 29
[edit on 5/3/08 by Harlequin]