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posted on Mar, 22 2006 @ 05:56 PM
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Before anyone dismisses the idea of Government Agencies conducting clandestine spraying over populated areas, it might be a good idea to first have a look at the declassified evidence of past US Government CBW experiments.

You can view many briefing notes of the US DOD CBW experiments, conducted as part of Project 112 during the years 1962-1974, at

deploymentlink.osd.mil...

Other US CBW programmes also conducted many clandestine disseminations over the Continental US and Canada; especially those investigating the Holy Grail of Biological Warfare - the Large Area Coverage (LAC) concept.

At the height of research in the 1950s and 1960s, the program conducted large-scale, secret tests over 33 major U.S. cities including Minneapolis, Corpus Christi, TX, Fort Wayne, IN, and St. Louis, MO.

Massive amounts of Biological Warfare simulant agents (Zinc Cadmium sulphide, Bacillus globigii) were dispersed over the cities in an attempt to investigate the travel of BW aerosols. The DOD have indicated that at the time (1950s and 1960s) the simulants were thought to be harmless, whereas today we know better.

Other US Government Agency sponsored sprayings have included:

Victoria Diffusion Trials - 17 experiments were conducted at Victoria, Texas during July - August 1965. Zinc Cadmium sulphide (FP) was disseminated as part of a series of Large Area Coverage (LAC) evaluation trials. Sampling units recorded FP at distances of 180 km.

GREEN-GLOW Diffusion Programme - 26 experiments were conducted in the Richland, Washington area during the summer of 1959. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated at night with sampling taking place up to 25 km from source.

Multiple Tracer Experiments - 9 experiments were conducted between 1965-67 at Cincinnati, Ohio. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated as part of the Large Area Coverage evaluation, with sampling units placed up to 115 kms from source.

Turbulent Diffusion Experiments - 7 experiments conducted at Fort Wayne, Indiana. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated, with sampling units placed up to 14.4 kms from source.

St.Louis Dispersion Study 2 - 42 experiments conducted at St.Louis between 1963-65. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated during both night and day, with sampling units placed up to 16 kms from source.

Concentration Distributions in Aerosol Plumes - Unknown number of experiments conducted during June -July 1952 at New Mexico, and July-September 1953 at New South Wales, Australia. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated, with sampling units placed up to 35 kms from source.

AUTUMN GOLD - 9 experiments conducted in the vacinity of Pearl Harbour during May 1963. Spores of the Anthrax simulant, Bacillus globigii (BG) were disseminated during the evening, with sampling units placed up to 20 kms from source.

NIGHT TRAIN - 18 experiments conducted at Alaska between November 1963 and January 1964. Spores of the Anthrax simulant, Bacillus globigii (BG) and Zinc Cadmium suplhide (FP) were disseminated at night, with sampling units placed up to 40 kms from source line.

WEST SIDE Phase 1 - 15 experiments conducted in the vacinity of Fort Greely, Alaska during January - February 1965. Spores of the Anthrax simulant, Bacillus globigii (BG) and Zinc Cadmium suplhide (FP) were disseminated, with sampling units placed up to 145 kms from source line.

WEST SIDE Phase 2 - 12 experiments conducted at the Great Plains, Canada between January-March 1965. Spores of the Anthrax simulant, Bacillus globigii (BG) and Zinc Cadmium suplhide (FP) were disseminated, with sampling units placed up to 145 kms from source line.

Project WINDSOC - 13 experiments concucted at Central Texas between August 1959 and February 1960. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated as part of the Large Area Coverage evaluation, with sampling units placed up to 200 kms from source.

Stanford Trials - 2 experiments conducted over the whole Continental United States. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated as part of the Large Area Coverage evaluation, with sampling units placed over the whole Continental United States.

San Francisco Trials - 6 experiments conducted at San Francisco on 27/09/1950. Spores of the Anthrax simulant, Bacillus globigii (BG) were disseminated, with sampling units placed up to 40 kms from source.

San Francisco Trials - 5 experiments conducted at San Francisco between August and October 1950. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated, with sampling units placed up to 40 kms from source.

South Carolina Trials - 5 experiments conducted at South Carolina, Georgia, during March - April 1952. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated during both night and day, with sampling units placed up to 240 kms from source.

South Carolina Trials - 6 experiments conducted at South Carolina, Georgia, during November - December 1952. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated during both night and day, with sampling units placed up to 160 kms from source.

St. Louis Dispersion Trials - 43 experiments conducted at St Louis 1965. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated with sampling units placed 8 km from source.

Ralston Trials - 17 experiments conducted at Ralston, Alberta. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated at night with sampling units placed up to 16 km from source.

OCEAN BREEZE - 76 experiments conducted at California between May 1961 - March 1962. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated both day and night with sampling units placed up to 5 km from source.

DRY GULCH - 109 experiments conducted at Florida between August 1961 - June 1962. Zinc Cadmium sulphide was disseminated both day and night with sampling units placed up to 6 km from source.

source - Porton Technical Note No 18




zero lift


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posted on Mar, 22 2006 @ 08:42 PM
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Good find and good post Zero!

These type of experimentation is still going IMO. A little OT but they tested vaccines on us 'troops' in the first Gulf War and many, me included, are sick because of it. If anybody thinks your government wouldn't do this sort of thing think again, you are sadly wrong.

And they say we are paranoid, dillusional. I was even called schizophrenic in another chem thread because I believed they were spraying the population.


C'mon de-bunkers bring your persistant con-trails, your atmospheric conditions, keep your head in the sand and leave your blinders on, you're the ones who allow the gov to get away with this crap.


jra

posted on Mar, 23 2006 @ 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by ANOK
C'mon de-bunkers bring your persistant con-trails, your atmospheric conditions, keep your head in the sand and leave your blinders on, you're the ones who allow the gov to get away with this crap.


It's kind of hard to allow some one to get away with something, when you don't even know for sure what they are doing.

I think what most of us just want is some solid evidence. It looks like there's a list of stuff from the 50's and 60's, but that's it. Those were most likely low level sprayings. And not what chemmies claim as 'chemtrails' today. I just need something more then photos of fluffy white lines in the sky. I don't get why more chemtrail believers don't go out and try to collect more data. Like check to see if conditions are right for persistant contrails or not and if they arn't, then maybe one would be onto something. It would be a start at least.



posted on Mar, 23 2006 @ 03:58 AM
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But the "chemies" have done research it's all over the net, it's just ppl refuse to believe any of it...

Here's one here for a start:

www.chemtrailcentral.com...


Additionally it was discovered that the jets that were responsible for leaving highly persistent trails that last for hours did not ever appear on Flight Explorer and were documented for 8 separate instances, including one instance with two jets in formation.


You want solid evedence, watch the skies. Most of you admit you don't pay it that much attention, that's what the gov is relying on. If you live in an area they spray you will notice it eventualy if you do more than just casualy glance. You gotta watch and see how the planes are operating.

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posted on Mar, 23 2006 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by zero lift
Before anyone dismisses the idea of Government Agencies conducting clandestine spraying over populated areas, it might be a good idea to first have a look at the declassified evidence of past US Government CBW experiments.


I don;t dispute the possiblity that such clandestine operations have, and maybbe still are, carried out in some places.

But that doesn't change the fact that what are usually claimed to be 'chemtrails' have a totally innocent meteorological explanation.

Now here's a different angle to the conspiracy: suppose those websites posting pictures of contrails, cirrus clouds, irridescence and such-like and making silly claims that they are proof of 'chemtrails' are actually disinformation sites aimed at ridiculing the whole idea and thus ensuring that the real spraying - which would occur at night or when low cloud prevents observation - goes undetected?

Make an outrageous claim, no-one takes you seriously, and the small element of truth within the claim goes unnoticed



posted on Mar, 23 2006 @ 12:45 PM
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I don;t dispute the possiblity that such clandestine operations have, and maybbe still are, carried out in some places. But that doesn't change the fact that what are usually claimed to be 'chemtrails' have a totally innocent meteorological explanation.


I agree Essan.

But there is also the curious fact that some 'chemtrails' might even be caused by meteorological researchers themselves. This was certainly the case in the past.

A system for classifying the degree of atmospheric turbulence which is still widely used in the forecasting of plumes of particulates, owes its existence to the UK Large Area Coverage BW experiments.

The senior Meteorological scientist at CDEE Porton Down, Frank Pasquill, based his famous 'Pasquill stability categories' on results obtained from the ongoing large-scale Zinc Cadmium sulphide experiments.


In recent years, Porton Down have admitted that many of their LAC related BW experiments were carried out under the guise of meteorological research.

See below -

General. Item 5. Security If anyone asks you what you are doing in the field the only permissible answer is that you are sampling atmospheric pollution for meteorlogical research.



Source: Microbiological Research Establishment Porton Down Field Trial Report No 1 November 1963

I would like to point out that past evidence shows that many different agencies have been involved in separate aerosol dispersion experiments; each totally unaware of the others activities.

The same practice could be occuring today.

No overall conspiracy, just a shared lack of concern for the health effects that their research might cause.





zero lift



posted on Mar, 23 2006 @ 07:37 PM
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Here is a link to a new report on chemtrails just published in a local newspaper from Southern California. The writer lives within 10 miles of the California coast:

www.topangamessenger.com...

He cites a number of authoritative sources, including the U.S. physicist Edward Teller and various U.S. military reports, interviews, etc. Check it out.

I'm on deadline right now with a project, but I will check back on this ATS thread in about 2 weeks. Hope this info is helpful.



posted on Mar, 25 2006 @ 05:48 PM
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I don't think this will be problem much longer. The way I see it, the spraying started the same year they went looking for the 1918 Spanish Flu virus, and it will stop about the same time the virus is released. Actually, I'd say around the middle of August.



posted on Mar, 25 2006 @ 06:42 PM
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have just skim read the toxicologists report on the Dorset Defence Trials that zero lift posted
he states that due to the action of sunlight on bacteria he would assume that any hostile action would be done at night

soooo.....

it appears that we need more, far more, evidence of chemtrails being seeded at night.



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 08:12 AM
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Absolutely mark ten, probably the biggest threat to the viability of vegetative bacteria is UV light.

The following extracts, taken from a Porton Programme Report (17/60 see below), give a more accurate description of the parameters surrounding the large-scale dissemination of Biological Warfare (BW) agents.



Item 1. It is believed that the most effective travel of aerosol clouds of potential BW agents would be limited to the period when the sun is below or only a little (ca 15 degrees) above the horizon, as most bacterial organisms succumb rather readily to exposure to daylight.

Item 6 then rather chillingly states:

6. ….Source emissions may be made in late evening or very early in the morning depending on meteorological conditions and on which aspect (night travel or morning fumigation) is of greatest interest.

Of course the spraying of bacteria in the hours of darkness is not an absolute rule. Anthrax spores aren't affected that much by daylight, as are other sporulating bacteria, and could remain viable if sprayed during the day.

Or the bacteria could be coated with a protective substance which would delay the effects of UV. Research of this type was undertaken by the MRE Porton Down scientists during the later Dorset Defence Trials (aka the Lyme Bay Trials). During 1967-1968, a protective substance was added to the bacterial suspension prior to spraying the South Coast. This proved quite successful in protecting the bacteria from ‘polluted air‘; there is no reason why a protective coat against UV could not have been developed.

A third possibility is that the substance being sprayed is not a bacteria, thus making UV associated problems irrelevant.

Should anyone else want to read the Ministry of Defence commissioned Independent Review of the Porton Down public area live bacteria experiments which were conducted 1963-1975 then click here

Interestingly, the MOD appear to have removed from their website a similar MOD commissioned Independent Review of the earlier Porton Down public area BW experiments (the Large Area Coverage Zinc Cadmium sulphide trials 1953-1964).

This review was conducted by the Academy of Medical Sciences and has attracted criticism for not examining all the experiments, especially those experiments which contaminated large city populations.

Whether the removal of the review from the MOD website is connected to the recent adverse publicity surrounding the Porton ZnCds experiments, conducted at Norwich during 1963-64, is unknown.

You do raise a very interesting point Mark Ten.

Are chemtrails often seen at night?




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