Apart from Ronald Weinald's predictions, which there have been many over the centuerys we don't know when for sure this will happen. We can only be ready, repent & ask JESUS to be your savore.
It's been told JESUS will return on a starless night:"pitch dark": Those that are saved will be taken all those that are left will be in tribulation.
At that moment those that are left will know for sure. Untill then and I hope everyone realizies what their descisions will do for them. I pray they choose wisely.


MOD EDIT, all caps and spelling in title

[edit on 10-2-2008 by DontTreadOnMe]

Starless night? Where does it say this? Regardless, when it is nighttime somewhere, it is broad daylight somewhere else. I have my suspicion (and suspicion only) that it seems the rapture would occur in the daylight hours for America and night time for the Eastern Hemipshere but it is only speculation on my part. America is a non entity according to the end times mentioned in the Bible so it would make sense it would occur while it would cause the most damage: when everyone is awake and moving around.

what you call tribulation, i call life without sensationalists.

what else do you bring besides a card-board sign that i've read countless times but have yet to see any proof besides generalizations and mindless recitations from a book that cannot be proven beyond being fictional?

I've hear it many times over the years preached by many Preachers, "He will come like a thief in the night". & the christians are already saved

when a sentence uses the words "like", that means it is a metaphor. meaning, one should not take that sentence literally. other posters have already mentioned that other parts of the world do not experience night until our day. it is more likely the sentence implies that jesus will come unexpectedly, so you better behave.

it's pretty much the same technique used for children during christmas. you better be good or santa won't bring you any presents.

blackmailing at its finest.

Oh, and just a clarification: Christians who believe in a pretribulation rapture do not believe it is the same event as Jesus' second coming.

Originally posted by AshleyD
Oh, and just a clarification: Christians who believe in a pretribulation rapture do not believe it is the same event as Jesus' second coming.

these people are called dispensational premillenniallists.

Originally posted by AshleyD
Oh, and just a clarification: Christians who believe in a pretribulation rapture do not believe it is the same event as Jesus' second coming.

ok now im confused, what is your take on that whole subject ashley

you can U2U me if youd like, typing it here would be best so all can read, for years ive been telling my mom that there is no rapture at all

we will all be persecuted just like any other martyr i guess in a sense

how are we as humans worthy enough to be saved from the world

satan is the ruler of this world, he even offered it to jesus

so to say that we will be taken away just does not make sense

i dont feel im arguing, i was being snippy but i totally like to discuss this

wELL IT CAN BE DEBATED WHEN THINGS WILL OCCURE AND HOW.
But the important thing is that we as Christians make people think about repentance & help the non-believers, Show them they way. I do know that however the end happens or when, I'am ready, I know where I'am going.

Originally posted by barmshadow84
wELL IT CAN BE DEBATED WHEN THINGS WILL OCCURE AND HOW.
But the important thing is that we as Christians make people think about repentance & help the non-believers, Show them they way. I do know that however the end happens or when, I'am ready, I know where I'am going.

i am just asking for something new. why post to this forum, this place of ideas and thoughts, when all you mention are recycled and obvious shoutings that have been proclaimed by people for centuries?

most everyone knows about christian's belief in the second coming of christ. if you are really trying to do what you are wanting to do [converting people and all that jazz], you will need to bring logical and precise arguments for why anyone should believe in it, besides it being written down in a book that was from one limited and prejudiced culture.