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reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 02:48 AM by ZeroGhost

Thanks for your candid accounts. Some other posters here seem to resonate. There are many species, several interacting for various reasons it seems. I am quite fascinated in the differences.

Drakiir, Darcon and DraconicDesire, (very strange your names so similar here) it would be valuable to hear you all comparing notes. If you each have different contacts, the differences and the similarities could give us a deeper insight. Please continue to draw comparisons and share advice. Any others too.

I have only for a moment seen a Grey type being in my room over me, and that was because I was having stomach pains and sleep all night was very light. I believe though I and my wife have had way more experiences than we remember since childhood.

I just found out my youngest brother and his children have been abducted. My brother was a top secret crypto for the NAVY and never told anyone of his experiences. not even his wife or kids. He just told me, and only me.

I have had so many sightings, and my friends too. Also missing time and very strange occurrences my whole life. I am connected to a huge community of professionals and experts working on very progressive things. Way too many connections. Famous scientists, media people, heads of state, organizations and many many people high up in the UFO field.

I have many skills I cannot account for, and a deep subtle knowledge way beyond most everyone I know. I feel I am operating with a database I do not have direct connect yet it is very operational. Much of what you all are saying I find rings true. But I do not have memory's of contact like you guys. Just the solid implications and tens of ironic circumstances. No one would believe my stories. Not even you three I bet.

Can you tell me if there are conditions that would open memories up that you know of? My conditions might be special. Can these beings wake many up on cue? I worried the memories where lost.

I'm proud of you guys for some reason. Gutzy stuff coming out to support each other.

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 03:01 AM by skibtz

Originally posted by ZeroGhost
I have many skills I cannot account for, and a deep subtle knowledge way beyond most everyone I know.

Hi ZeroGhost

Now I am interested. Would you care to elaborate on the skills and knowledge you mention please?

This is starting out to be quite an interesting thread

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 03:01 AM by Chiiru

Originally posted by Drakiir
reply to post by greeneyedleo

Sorry cant do that these beings know when you carry devices on you and will destroy them if they feel the mobile phone or videocam will reveal them. They know everything I do and am being monitored all the time. Im not prepared to face the consequences of showing evidence of a species which I am not supposed to do.

I had to chime in...
this IMO is not necessarily true. Why destroy it when it can be altered? Plus, if it is 'destroyed' then that in and of itself would be 'proof' as well. They have the ability to alter photography and video. It is a way of 'self-defense', to keep protected. Maybe even to keep us protected, until the time was/is right. They know what's going on, they know where the picture takers are. It's just the act of deciding whether or not to allow that picture or snippet of film to be 'leaked'.
(my .02)
-B
(edit I can't spell ;_; )

[edit on 10-2-2008 by Chiiru]

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 03:21 AM by CaptnCrunch

Drakiir I'm really worried about you. The way you describe these beings is a combination of what we've seen in a few episodes of X-Files and The Matrix movies. I think you're making these things up in your head because you're lonely. Think about it. They "tell you" that they "don't want you to reveal or show proof" of them? I don't know if you've seen A Beautiful Mind but I think you might be a schizophranic. These beings are here to make you feel loved. But they're not real.

Think about it. Nobody has ever seen these things but you. You say you walk through a metal detector and it goes off and that's proof. This used to happen to my old girlfriend all the time. The only proof that offers is that those machines are glitchy. I'm sorry that you have a mental illness. But you still have time to get it checked out.

If you want to prove to yourself that you're not crazy, have somebody else verify proof of these things for you. Otherwise, seek help.

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 03:22 AM by Da tRutH

"I have many skills I cannot account for, and a deep subtle knowledge way beyond most everyone I know. I feel I am operating with a database I do not have direct connect yet it is very operational. Much of what you all are saying I find rings true. But I do not have memory's of contact like you guys. Just the solid implications and tens of ironic circumstances. No one would believe my stories. Not even you three I bet."

ok, this ^^^^^^^^^^^^ is exactly what you said ZeroGhost, and it's honestly the main reason why i decided to write this reply towards you. for some reason this paragraph u said got me very interested. i've just finished reading this whole thread and i must say that its daring of you to say that neither Drakiir, Darcon or DraconicDesire would believe your stories.

My question here is, what makes your stories so special that not even these 3 ATS members who have shared what they know and such with us, not believe your particular stories... did u experience something SO OUT of the ordinary or do you know something out of the ordinary that u think it's too much for anyone here to believe? not saying im a gullible person and believe whatever im told, but i do believe in a lot of things i feel deep in my soul is the truth, especially since for the past year i've been doing nothing but researching and using the internet as a guide to look for the truth of life. i'm a very curious george so to speak, and i'm DEFFINATELY trying to find out the truth about everything before i die.

sorry if i'm coming out like i'm harrasing you or anything, because that's not my intentions. just very curious as to what you might have experienced. take care.

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 04:19 AM by ZeroGhost

reply to post by skibtz

reply to post by Da tRutH

I would have a very hard time explaining. If only partial it would not fly to my satisfaction. This is not my thread and I am not quite ready to come out without good corroborative resources ready to share. I can just say that my wife and I have many synchronicities and ironic circumstances that have defined our lives. Plus people and situations like we are "planned" to be places, but not our plans. Clear UFO's, Missing time, people we meet etcetera. And much, much more.

I have a type of knowledge that is more like a gifted math person, but it is "qualitative " not "quantitative". I see many levels of organization in phenomena at once. I see wide field macro relationships that give me insight into small scale micro structure. I understand and can visualize astronomical physics and subatomic, quantum realms, but beyond that to areas best described as more spiritual in nature. Yet I cannot do a division problem. Math is too linear for me to see and understand, but I can figure things out without number tricks. I see the problem in vision form. Not all, I am not all that brilliant with everything, but in some subjects I already know the answers and have intuitive resource. I am gifted visually also. My career spans 30 years in computer graphics. I was one of the first published digital artists.

Thats all for now. I am really not going to hijack this thread. It is too interesting to me. I'll decide when I can substantiate clearly what I am saying. Words have a way of killing and deadening reality. They must be more like poetry to be understood and to have true meaning. Please don't make me regret coming out. Support this thread. I only wanted to preface my coming questions with something about me for context.

My own story is "off topic" here. What these guys are saying has structure most cannot see as they are seeing the trees and not the forest usually. I see the forest in these posts and want to concentrate on that.

I will contribute here, but my own post will come later. Important to focus now.

Don't get me wrong, your questions and curiosity are honorable. I just cannot do them justice now.

ZG

[edit on 2/10/2008 by ZeroGhost]

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 04:40 AM by rxnnxs

moved to the other thread

[edit on 10/2/2008 by rxnnxs]

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 04:44 AM by ZeroGhost

reply to post by Da tRutH

I realized I did not answer you completely.

Imagine someone, an artist working for space and science industry, just came from a world invitation only SETI / NASA event, met and spoke with astronomers like Sagan, Drake, Shostak and several others working with people looking for alien life at a military radio telescope and on the way home sees a massive triangle for 20 minutes in clear view at dusk that actually sends out flares to get their attention. Already believes in UFO's and is a science fiction artist too. Does not really remember much or do anything about it until 13 years later. Would you believe him?

I would not believe this. And I was there.

Just one ironic story.

FYI

ZG

[edit on 2/10/2008 by ZeroGhost]

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 04:47 AM by atlasastro

reply to post by Drakiir

Hi Drakir, have you thought of using groups involved with ufo and alien contact to help you understand what is happening to you. Have you consulted with any conventional groups like psychiatrists or hypno-therapists to rule out any other cause for your experience, i only ask this because most people who have encounters question their own mental health when incidents like the ones you describe occur....its a natural response that self doubt creeps in when dealing with our own perception in relation to extremely abnormal experiences. Thank you for your post.

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 04:56 AM by Drakiir

reply to post by CaptnCrunch

Thats because some of the matrix movies and x files movies had fact in them so your bound to hear some resemblance to them. I mean what some people say could happen to earth is like Independence Day, or comets like Deep Impact and Armageddon or The Forgotten the list goes on. Im not duplicating a movie script here unless an alien computer can be hacked by windows as in ID4.

Just because there is some resemblance to a movie doesn't mean its fake. I've never seen an alien as the mutant versions in the x files movie they aren't like that in real life.

"Nobody has ever seen these things but me!?"

Totally false other contacts have seen and even know them, and other people with brief encounters or have seen something out of the ordinary. Yeah the xray machine was faulty ok if thats you oppinion, did the guards tell your girlfriend after the machine went off never to come back again? Ive had test done and have seen people and in fact say Im very intelligent and see no "insanity gene" running through me as you suggest. Try and convince a shrink that God isnt an invisible friend or mental dillusion as they would call it.

Like I said its perception and Im sorry to tell you that every persons perception is different. I think people who drinks and drive has enormous mental problems and thats way more catastrophic than my claims, Im not killing people in cars through stupidity, thats a mental illness and i dont drink or smoke so Im more sane than what you think.

[edit on 10-2-2008 by Drakiir]

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 05:08 AM by CaptnCrunch

I hope you get better.

Sometimes it's hard to admit these things to ourselves. But good luck.

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 05:25 AM by Drakiir

reply to post by CaptnCrunch

You fail to recognize reason and respect for opinion. I don't care if you think Im crazy or not thats you opinion think what you want. But that gives you no right to infer to someone you have never met that they have a mental illness. Now thats insanity.

Get your opinion, and take it with you to the next thread as no one on this thread would appreciate you applying your theory to them, just as I don't. They share their experiences openly where you only give ridicule.

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 05:34 AM by Drakiir

reply to post by atlasastro

The thing is that I find a lot more comfort in talking to people who have shared my experience rather than hypnotherapy. The information whether fully discovered or not is up to me and fellow contact to figure out through their own means. I don't want someone i have never met picking through my brain about information they aren't supposed to know.

Ill figure it out with the people I am meant to be asking and that doesn't include doctors shrinks or therapy. Yes I do reject modern therapy when it comes to these topics its a must and is necessary to protect the people I know. Plus if he did learn of things he wasn't supposed to know well they greys would make it so it never happened anyway, as they have always done. Its there way of looking out for me.

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 05:36 AM by atlasastro

Originally posted by Drakiir
reply to post by CaptnCrunch

You fail to recognize reason and respect for opinion. I don't care if you think Im crazy or not thats you opinion think what you want. But that gives you no right to infer to someone you have never met that they have a mental illness. Now thats insanity.

Get your opinion, and take it with you to the next thread as no one on this thread would appreciate you applying your theory to them, just as I don't. They share their experiences openly where you only give ridicule.

Drakir, what did you expect to happen when you posted your thread on this here. i am new at ATS but it was easy to figure that this is not a forum where people can select the attention they would desire. If you make a claim, like you have, people are interested. If you make a claim and have no proof, like you have, you have to accept that people here will question you because of the interest your claims generate.As far as i can see( i'll repeat that i'm a newbie) This is not group therapy or a mutual appreciation society. Its also not a place for excessive attention seeking, as you will get noticed and people will pay attention and they will be honest with what they think, especially if they believe you are not.

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 05:39 AM by Drakiir

reply to post by Chiiru

They can destroy the evidence of just make it not work, either way if they don't want to be happy snapped or found out, they can do what is necessary to keep themselves covered. I support their decision to do so as I would feel the same way. I guess if you asked well maybe it would be a possibility but chances are they would keep the evidence until the time is right to show it.

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 05:45 AM by SantaClaus

This is to help a fellow member get their questions answered because they haven't been addressed.

Its very interesting to me that the single person asking actual questions: greeneyedleo is being ignored. This is an automatic sign of fraud.

I'm sorry, I'd love to keep my mind open to your story, but it is just so coincidental. Basically you can't tell us anything that the internet can't. You just eat up all the stories off of the web and puke them up on these boards? Come on people, 4 pages too many at this point. Yeah we all believe but people who can't answer simple basic questions are unreliable.

So there's nothing about you that draws them and you can't answer anything that hasn't been discussed a million times on the boards.

So even if you have had a million contacts, your unwillingness to divulge gives us nothing but mildly entertaining stories. Sorry, I'm not usually so blunt, but c'mon.

Game over.

EDIT: GEL accreditation

[edit on 2/10/08 by SantaClaus]

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 05:54 AM by Drakiir

reply to post by atlasastro

Have you even read the threads? their are replies that say what Im saying is true so there is the proof that Im not lying most of my comments ring true with some people. They end up including interesting info in support of what I have posted. Run through Witnes2008 replies and other who say they have seen something and made contact.

Its the people who put the barriers up and refuse to even consider the possibility that constantly haggle for things that even I dont know asking every detail from any thing they have ever heard. You prove what Im saying didn't happen go ahead give it a shot, tell every person on here who has genuinely experienced or contacted something that they are crazy, go for it.

What have you offered to the post regarding aliens. All you offer is insult to me and others on here by saying I have mental issues.

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 06:01 AM by Drakiir

reply to post by SantaClaus

Ok give me a simple basic question anything, but what will you do with it the world wont change, you wont turn pink, it doesnt create miracles.

How will answering whatever question you have bring you any further to knowing what is only known if you are a contact?

reply posted on 10-2-2008 @ 06:02 AM by Macrotus

Hmmm. I think witness2008 and Drakiir is the same person.

They post almost at roughtly the same time. Their writing style is the same.

I think moderators should check their ip address.

By the way your stories are a mish mash of popular alien movies, interviews in Cost to Coast and some stuff in YouTube.... (I like the part where it is similar to Jim Sparks) :