Why isn't Ron Paul doing better?

Just thru with Super Tuesday and Ron Paul has all of 16 delegates. Why hasn't he done better? He's raised a lot of money. He's popular amongst internetters. Why hasn't that translated to more votes?

After Mitt Romney suspended his campaign today, CBS said there were only two republicans left. Meaning McCain and Huckabee. No mention of Ron Paul. Then Huckabee said something about being down to the last two. No mention of Ron.

I've been listening to Rush Limbaugh. He's not happy with McCain or Huckabee. I don'tt get why he doesn't support Ron Paul. I know Rush's view on the war differs from Rons view but Ron is a fiscal conservative. Moreso than any other candidate.

Why do Rush, and most other conservatives, just disregard Ron?

Rush and Ann Coulter say how they might not support McCain if he's the nominee, maybe even voting for Hillary. I wish it dawn on them to support Ron Paul instead.

I just don't understand why his support has been so low compared to the other candidates.

Where are all the celebrities campaigning for him? This is important business, you'd think Charlie Sheen could leave a hooker alone for a day and get out there.

He's not on the list of the nwo agenda. He hasn't been bought and sold yet.

Ron Paul used to be kind of a hot-head.

Morton Downy Jr used to be my favorite show. It was all the yelling and lack of rhetorically civility that I found funny.

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I think it is just because every sees him as a Ross Perot . . . a peculiar little man with radical ideas.

The liberal media is worthless.

Morton is a junky or was. A hot head is perhaps what America needs now.

He's doing a heck of a lot better then previous years running as a libertarian. I don't think he's doing bad at all. He has gotten second place in a few states so far. How is that bad?

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It's bad because he is only getting 3-6% of the vote. He has 16 delegates. Compare that to McCane and Huckabee. Doing better than what he did as a Libertarian is meaningless now.

I don't understand why he isn't doing better. Sure he's doing better than nothing. But it's not enough to get the nomination.

Obviously he doesn't have a chance anymore, it's a one man race now (Huckabee doesn't have a chance either). Although I think Ron Paul should stay untill the end and keep spreading his message (assuming the money keeps rolling in). It'll be funny when Huckabee drops out and it's just Mccain and Ron Paul left.

To give you an idea of why he hasn't done so well, two days ago I went to answer an internet poll which asked "Who would make the best president?". The five possible answers were Hillary Clinton ~45%, John Mccain ~7%, Mitt Romney ~6%, Barack Obama 37%, Huckabee 5% and Ron Paul was not mentioned. I then went on to the forums to complain about the ommission, and people asked "who is Ron Paul?". My thread was then deleted a few hours later (it didn't breach the T&C's). This was on the yahoo! forums btw.

The 2008 election experience has shown how much control the mainstream media has over who gets nominated, and explains why you always get two sides of the same coin (ie Clinton/Mccain). I fully understand that lots of people don't like Ron Paul or his policies (or his supporters), but that still doesn't make it right to completely censor a potential candidate.

I'm shoving off to canada, new zealand, australia, or any place that will have me. I really don't sit well with American democracy now.

I wish I could.

I am tired of all the shenanigans

Tis a sad day really, all I here is your vote counts,
I'm not republican, and yet i think it's not fair for Ron to get the $%#$ plug.
I'm not democrat either and Rons not getting media to show what hes tring to give us. When I read his stuff of the internet
I was think my god hes got some good ideas
yet he's not into taking over the world
he's not gonna count
he should be, for us
but, I wont vote
It wont
count
anyway

Wow so Ron Paul isn't doing so great boo hoo, Let me ask you something Could it possibly be the people running his campaign? The reason i ask is because i live in missouri and the dem/rep primary was Tuesday, there had not been 1 Paul ad on tv here leading up to the primary. And suddenly the day after the primary they run 2 paul ads every hour, a day late and a dollar short. now before you go screaming that its the mainstream media holding him back my brother in law is a master controller at one of the local stations and they didn't get ron pauls ad from his people until Wednesday! to be honest IMO he is relying way to much on the internet and not other forms of media, and his campaign staff need to get their heads out of their butt and get on the ball!

Because one supporter of Ron Paul in real life translates into about a hundred "internetters" - a number of whom are likely too young to vote, or, like many libertarians, too stoned to find the polling place

For a more serious response, the problem is he's a proponent of good intentions and bad ideas. He's an anti-tax, pro-isolationist guy who thinks returning to the gold standard is a good idea, liberals are evil, and that infringement of civil rights is perfectly okay so long as it's done at the state and not federal level. To him, entire sections of the constitution are unconstitutional

He's about as hard-right as you can get, and for some reason, some people only see his opposition to the Iraq war (which he opposes only because congress chose to not vote on it) and presume he's somehow not the sad love child of Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot.



The news organizations are treating the entire campaign like a reality TV show. Edwards got no vibe from them either, and he was polling equal to Obama.

As for the Republicans, Ron Paul may be an ultra-right guy, but he's not their kind of ultra-right guy.



Christ, why?



You could say Ron Paul is a fiscal conservative. You could also say the Sahara desert is a little dry. That is, I am of mind that a candidate who supports the privatization of all government and total abolition of taxes to be a little bit beyond "fiscally conservative"

Rush Limbaugh probably doesn't support Ron Paul because Rush Limbaugh isn't as stupid as his theater act leads many to believe.



Because they want to back a winner so they can have their existence validated.



Of course they do. This is a ploy to try to get McCain to swing hard right to "win back the base." He could tell them to toss off, and they'll still vote for him. Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter voting for Hillary would be like Cynthia McKinley actually winning the whole damn thing.



I suppose you mean comparatively speaking, right? None of the Republican candidates are riding tidal waves you know. Ron Paul has the distinction of being the dark horse in an almost-dead party.

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The "liberal media" is owned by a handful of conservatives suckling away at their Republican-granted tax breaks, their Republican-granted corporate welfare, and their Republican-granted removal of the fairness doctrine, the Republican-granted removal of anti-trust laws, and promises of more of the same from every Republican currently in or seeking office.

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Why isn't Ron Paul doing better ? You are kidding aren't you ? The man is a total loon. Racist and totally out of touch with reality. He is not mentioned because he is a third tier candidate. Mike Gravel is still in the race on the Democratic side and you hear no mention of him either. Guess Gravel did not conform to the nwo either.

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Ron Paul isn't an 'isolationist' as you maintain. He is a non-interventionist but supports trade, dialogue and nomalized relations with all countries. Look it up before you represent another individual's views.

Privitization? Please cite your source. Ron Paul is a strict Constitutionalist. Given that, the majority of civil functions are reserved to the state level. Not the feds. His propsal of the elimination of the income tax is based upon massive cutbacks of federal spending on international adventures. By eliminating that spending ($3+ trillion/yr) those savings can be redirected back to our crumbling infrastructure, eliminiate the personal income tax (resulting in more spendable income for people) and a healthier economy.

You and the other reckless Ron Paul bashers need to spend some time listening to what he says and less time parroting one-liners that you pick-up off other threads. There are many well heeled people that are in a far better position to assess Dr. Paul's positions than oany of us here that supoort them. So this one-handed discarding of his ideas and positions seems a bit capricious.

As for why he's not doing as well as some people feel he should consider this: His policies run counter to those of the RNC. There is no way they would give him the nomination. It's far more likely that he is running for President than the nomination.

If you watch the 'leading candidates' in the polls, every time there is a big win for a candidate there is a sudden surge in the polls for that candidate. These are all the people who vote for who they think is winning with no regard to their policies or positions. There is no cure for this. We can only hope more people take the time to lern about what each cadidate stands for and their plans going forward and pick accordingly.

Ron Paul is doing horrible, because of the media shut out. Nothing more.

You silence a voice, no one hears it.

Even his supporters were silenced this year.

Look back to last year, and he had Jim Cramer from the show Mad Money in his corner and Bill Maher from Real Time calling him his "Hero."

I have not heard either say anything this year, considering how Cramer hates on the Fed and whats happening this year, you have to question that.

Considering Maher said nothing this season you have to question that.

Media Silence = Dead in the water, nothing more.

It will take more then Internet support to push a candidate. He is seen as fringe by the masses, crazy by most, and despite being for true change, he has been silenced.

It could be worse, he could have been assassinated like John and Robert Kennedy, MLK, but it seems the powers that be are stronger then ever, their control of the media saves money on bullets.

In short, Paul's true messages are what rang strong, they changed my life, and I am now a registered voter, but to change this country, you need a massive protest in Washington, civil unrest, and a massive sit in, to make an an impact.

Anyone up for a prolonged sit in on DC against the Federal Reserve?

I am.

Anyone up for a prolonged sit in on DC against the War?

I am.

Problem is Americans for the most part are too fat and lazy to change, give them a tax rebate and they say, gee golly I can buy some stuff, things aren't bad.

People need to wake up, sad thing is, its probably too late.

Only answer left, move to another country, and just hope that your children don't become slaves of that government and central bank.

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Personally he made him self so unelectable to anyone that knows how the system works. In the real world, the president cannot get rid of the federal reserve. He never real offered the people a real world candidate, even foxnews joked him about it. In the real world america is a nasty country, that needs nasty people to run it, so it can stay where it is.

I just reckon he is there to see what percentage of the public like his ideas. One thing it has proven beyond any doubt to his supporters is this thing is so fixed, if your not there choice, he or she can never win. It does not matter how much money paul can raise.

There are several reasons Ron Paul isn't doing so well. One reason is because the GOP is doing everything in their power to keep him out of national recognition. Take for instance Louisiana. The GOP allowed people to register with other candidates AFTER the deadline in order to gather enough people into one group to "beat" Ron Paul after challenging some of the votes he received. There is currently legal action being taken to straighten this out. In NH there were many precincts that didn't even count Ron Paul's votes. People had to go down to their local Court House and demand to see their ballots because it was recorded that Ron Paul received NO votes in their district, when in fact there were MANY votes vast. Here's the latest in the scandal:

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With candidates dropping out or delaying their campaign, Ron Paul WILL do better. His actual delegate results will fare far better than his poll numbers are predicting. Just yesterday I was on one of the Romney Forums and there were several members that were saying now that Romney has pull out they plan on going with the only conservative left, Ron Paul. Of course there were a number of others that would support McCain's new World War. But, things are looking up!

Ron Paul REVOLUTION!

Actually he has closer to 42. And Everyone's delegates will be adjusted now that Romney has suspended his run.