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reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 02:43 PM by AshleyD
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Why the charade of your "teacher?" Just come out and say it: "Here is a video that describes some questionable activities. What do you guys, think?
Is the media reliable or misleading?"
You wouldn't have gotten crucified for it.
Anyways, the easiest answer is of course the media uses some things for propaganda or sensationalism. Sometimes not. Sometimes things really are as
messed up as they are being portrayed.
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reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 02:48 PM by scientist
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Originally posted by B-Rad G
he thought some news stories he saw on the news were fabricated as propaganda against the middle east.
He kept claiming that these broadcasts were made to create hate, or he said propaganda, against iraq and blatantly said they were brainwashing
americans!! 
sounds like a damn good teacher. You are lucky to have someone trying to push legitimate perspectives into that skull of yours. YOu should be
thankful he's not spouting real propaganda, like the kind normal economic teachers peddle to kids while their skulls are still soft.
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reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 03:02 PM by sublime_induction
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Here is what I am implying:
Unless you have the opportunity to go to a top private or boarding school, you will not see the opinions of your teachers (liberal or conservative
mind you).
At least until college. Hence its reputation.
This might be shocking for you in a public school environment. You are actually lucky.
If you disagree...find your evidence why and amaze him!!!
If you cannot find your voice with your evidence....then listen to him.
Its quite simple really.
I am not sure if this is more an arguement of teaching style/opinions or the actual issue itself.
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reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 05:42 PM by watchZEITGEISTnow
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Teachers should teach truths. Your teacher is a visionary and should be awarded for teaching you the "real #". Imagine how empowered you would
become not just as a human being, but as a learning brain, to have a head start in the world with the invaluable knowledge your teacher is risking in
their career to help further yours.
I used to hate teachers, hate them. But there was a couple that were exactly like this. And they are the ones you never forget and always wish one day
you might bump into them for a conversation more on their level.
In short, you should be very proud of that teacher, and feel lucky to have such education.
watchZEITGEISTnow
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reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 09:28 PM by Titen-Sxull
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I would applaud my teacher for such a rant, as though the media hasn't done their share of slander and libel... I for one believe there has been a
degradation of our opinions of middle easterners, especially Muslims, such ignorance is common here in America and it pains me to see people judged by
stereotypes rather than their own merits...
I welcome my teacher's opinions, its the conformity to the same old methods of teaching that made high school almost unbearable... No wonder children
struggle to learn when its the same methods, same formulas, same material, time after time after time...
As for faked terror videos I don't know, I'm sure they could if they wanted to... heck they could take a Bin Laden video from 1985 and dub some new
dialog and make him admit to anything if they wanted to... In a world where Brittney Spears is news I wouldn't put any treachery beyond the
News-Media...
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reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 09:58 PM by Michelle129
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I know the OP has fessed up that he was just trolling for...whatever he was trolling for, but I have to jump in and state that I'm quite shocked at a
few of the responses to this scenario
As a mother of 3 children, and a daycare provider to 5 other children, I was appalled when I thought a teacher so blatantly tried to force his/her
views on students that trust, listen and learn from him/her. I'd be extremely upset if one of my children came home from school expressing political
opinions some teacher had forced down his throat.
Turn this situation around. If the teacher had been fervently denying the media was corrupt and told students that they should hang on every word
they heard on tv...would you guys have been on the teacher's side then? Or would you still have tried to write off the OP as being too young, naive,
or having it 'out' for his teacher.
Because you happen to agree with the personal views of this teacher does NOT make it right for him to try to influence our children this way. I'm
sure for every 1 teacher that might share your views, there are hundreds more that don't. I think teachers should save their personal political
views for at home and stop filling our kids heads with them.
If this scenario had been real, and it were one of my kids telling me this story....agree or not, I'd be in the principal's office in a heartbeat
asking questions.
I do try to teach my kids to think for themselves, and to question everything. But having said that, I've watched my younger kids look at their
teacher with total awe and admiration because the teacher showed them that blue and yellow mixed together make green...so you can be sure that they
could be totally influenced by someone in that positions viewpoint.
Teachers should remain neutral about things like religion and politics in school period
Michelle
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reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 10:23 PM by sharplee
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i don't think the op should be punished in any way. however, the t&c is the t&c.
he was using his fiction to make a point, and he told us so quickly.
when i was in high school, i had a couple teachers who were straight shooters. wish all my teachers had been.
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reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 11:47 PM by TheWalkingFox
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I have to agree... But then, I saw it as satire from the initial post, sooo... *shrug*
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reply posted on 9-2-2008 @ 06:12 AM by MINDoverFAITH
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I have some really bad news for you, its true. The things is, like your said, you dont follow whats really going on. You know the propaganda fed and
shoved down are throats from the day we are born. Maybe about five corporate giants own the news and information fed to you. Guess what, it isnt truth
that your getting. No, America is not the greatest country in the world nor are we the protectors of freedom and out to help make the world safe. That
bull# has brainwashed and created a lazy, ignorant, and obediant population. Believe whatever the government says because its the United States, US
cant do any bad. While you believe and blindly let faith in the government comfort worry so you can spend time on important stuff like famous people
or video games; a handful of banks in the world control the money and corporate giants control the policy that rule your life. No, did you really
think you had a say in this country, voting? Ha, sorry. It is those who have power who controls your world and those who control the money who
dictate what will be done with power regardless this is the United State. Or any other place for that matter. Once a great contry a long time ago,
good intentions but today is propaganda with smoke and mirrors. Because americans have handed it blindly trusting without question. Photo opps, staged
press briefings, kissing babies or having an elderly women stand up in the middle of a speech telling of her sad and tearful situation of losing all
her money to medical bills and not being able to feed herself or going back to work after working all her life just to use her like a tool to
emotionally create a belief that they care and if elected will change it. Nice to dream, but from their promises to there hair, its all fake. The
politics, ideology, infromation is nothing but packaged wrapped up in a pretty bow lies. And looking only at the surface putting all faith in people
you dont know so you dont have to give a # is why your teacher is right. Unchecked power grows until is collapses under its own weight. So, if the
american citizens are the ones the politicans work for, it is are job to watch and know what exactly is being done in our name. Well it looks like we
dropped the ball on that responsibility, which is the only things to keep a free society free. If we have stopped doing the most important job, who
is? Turn off the tv, forget what you think you know, start over and re-educate yourself on whats real.
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reply posted on 9-2-2008 @ 10:38 AM by Ionized
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While I see what you are getting at, as other posters have said it comes down to truth. In this false scenario, the teacher was actually
telling the truth, not just an opinion. If on the other hand the teacher said the opposite as you suggest in your counter point, the teacher would be
telling lies.
We applaud the teacher because of his attempt to spread truth. It has nothing to do with opinion in this case. Had he said the opposite as your
counterpoint suggests, we would be reprimanding him for telling lies.
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reply posted on 9-2-2008 @ 04:03 PM by Michelle129
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It's the truth as YOU and OTHER people see it. This does not mean that everyone believes that to be true, or that it IS true. I'm betting that if
you poll 100 average people on the street, you won't find that the majority agree that the media is fake. If everyone had the same beliefs, opinions
and viewpoints, there'd be no point for a website such as ATS.
Michelle
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reply posted on 9-2-2008 @ 04:44 PM by NexGenRevolution
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Please, before anyone else posts, please refer to the twelth post (by B-Rad G) on the first page of this thread.. to clear up the intent of this
thread
Or check out this one
Media, News Channels Brainwashing w/ Fabricated Videos
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reply posted on 9-2-2008 @ 05:18 PM by Jbird
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Please direct any further comments to this Thread
Media, News Channels Brainwashing w/ Fabricated Videos
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