My teacher slanders news media claiming its fake!!

I believe I found the right topic to post this thread as, as it fits both education and media, just separately

Anyway, i was outraged in school today to listen to my economics teacher spew about how he thought some news stories he saw on the news were fabricated as propaganda against the middle east.. Understandably teachers are not allowed to voice their political opinions or views to their pupils, and i've witnessed several teachers either stop themselves when they began to touch on such topics or even inform the class that they weren't technically allowed to share their opinion on such also. But today, my teacher did much more than cross the line; i mean he didn't even hold back.

He described videos of al queda (sp?) recuiting children that he had seen as fake (i believe i found the right story and i'll post a link). He kept claiming that these broadcasts were made to create hate, or he said propaganda, against iraq and blatantly said they were brainwashing americans!!! I mean isn't this treason or illegal or something? to slander the news like this?

I felt like speaking out towards him but of course i don't closely follow the news so i decided not to, not quite sure of the particulars. But i found the video i think he's talking about so i still plan to confront him about it tomorrow. The link is posted below. Any thoughts on what i should say to him?

Al queda vid link

The video is about half way down the page. its not a broadcast but i'm sure this is what he was referring to as i found nothing else.

Did the teacher in question give you a poor grade, perhance ?

Has he bawled you out for smoking in the corridor or other misdemeanors ?

Just wondering.

Because you appear to really have it in for him.

And it sounds personal.

Tell me .. do YOU believe everything presented to you by the media ?

Really ?

Live a bit longer .. as long as your teacher has perhaps .. and you might come to hold a different opinion.

Do YOU agree with the US invasions of other nations ?

Why ?

Why do you believe the US was/is justified in its aggressive presence in Iraq or Afghanistan ?

How would YOU like it if the Afghani and Iraqi military came to YOUR town ... *just because they COULD * ... and raped your mother and sisters .. shot your pets and laughed as you screamed ... spat in your father's face ... tore up your home and garden ... killed and blew up your neighbours and friends ... and swaggered around armed to the hilt wearing six-inch high boots and tall helmets, smoking and laughing at you as you scrabbled in the dirt for something to eat ?

How would you LIKE it ?

Tell me, please.

Wow thanks for calling me a criminal.

The teacher happened to be one of my most revered up until now.

Do YOU find it justified that this public educator lies to his pupil's young minds, so naive, fragile, easily-molded, the way he has?

What if it was YOUR student being exposed to this teachers judgemental biases... or any for that matter? Any you would never know about it.

[edit on 7-2-2008 by B-Rad G]

Well, Dock really did sum it up in a nutshell, although aggressively lol but I do understand why she would feel that way and really, that's how it is at the end of the day. Many others feel the same way.

I am guessing you are quite young and so I suggest you should speak out. Ask him questions, ask him to back up why he says what he says etc ... question everything you are told/taught/see/read. It's the only way to truly find the truth and the sooner we learn this, the better off in life we will be.

I wish I'd had just one teacher who wasn't another brainwashed puppet of the system growing up. Really woulda learnt a few things earlier on in life.

Then again, I didn't have to grow up in America.

It isn't totally apparent, but the way both of you (Dock and Jaded) speak, it seems as if you would agree?

Did you watch the vid? This stuff is not fake. The proof is right there.

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'Called you a criminal ' ??

My, my ... you really are adept at twisting and deliberately misinterpreting other's words, aren't you ?

Can see what your teacher is up against.

Why instead of slandering ME, don't you respond to my questions ?

Why do YOU disagree with the remarks you have *claimed* were made by your teacher ?

Why do YOU believe the media *is* to be believed ?

Why do YOU *not* believe the media spews propaganda ?

Why do YOU believe the US military's aggressive presence in other countries is justified ?

You claim you disagree with what you *claim* your teacher has said.

So let's hear what you DO believe ? Thank you

I realize when taken literally you're asking whether or not this occurence has taken place.. which it has not. But indirectly you are implying that i'm a stereotypical, careless, pot-smoking teenager who has "misdemeanors" or similar infractions on his record.

Anyway, i respond to YOUR questions with questions because i'm responding to the points made by YOUR questions.

But seriously, is it not a minor, menial form of treason to slander the news offered by.. the news. Afterall, what they are truly reporting on are those patriotic values for why we are engaged in this war. (and apparently its to stop these new al qaeda-kids from doing their part; among several other things reported by these media outlets)

Is it treason? No.

Is it illegal? No.

Is it against school policy? Perhaps.

We get shocks in our life, where we realize something new that doesn't fit into our preconceived notions, or where somebody we respect does something that falls outside our category of acceptable. Usually, a strong emotional reaction like you describe is an opportunity for growth, even though growing hurts. The teacher has a perfectly legal right to his opinion whether it is correct or not.

I did not see your movie (I cannot get even the smallest of net videos on my bad connection.) I did read about a six year old who was used as a bomb. I also read of two mongoloid ladies used that way. I have read for a couple of years now, how Al Qaeda is tying unwilling bombers to driver's wheel and accelarators. They even ask their own Al Qaeda insurgents for volunteers to be suicide bombers and DUPE those new enlistees who are unwilling to be suicide bombers. They told one to deliver a tanker of fuel to Bagdad and they blew it up remotely, probably with cell phone. Al Qaeda is getting desperate as it has blown up all it's volunteers.

That's my opinion anyway. Others will disagree with me and that is their right to disagree ... as it is my right to hold my opinion.

What your teacher did took guts anyway, and I respect that ... whether his opinion is accurate or not.

It's an opportunity for you to re-examine yourself, your opinions, and to grow from what you have learned.

reply to post by B-Rad G

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not all media sources are liget and the few that are not all for their stories are. life no matter what subject or what era from the begining of time until the last day boils down to one thing........ $$$$$$$$$$$$$

i was once suspended because my teacher was teaching that a kilometer was longer than a mile and i corrected her. school is temporary like every thing in life. hang in there and you will make it.

in my book what defines a person is the ablity to maintain ones head when all those around you are loseing theirs.

but what do i know...

I think your teacher is 100% correct about the MSM being
a propaganga tool.

you would do yourself a favor by researching this.

Part one of seventeen

YouTube Link

Find the rest here

www.youtube.com...

*cough* Anyway, as interesting as this all is...

.. and Dock, just so you don't feel like you wasted your time..

.. I posted to test the waters, see if anyone shared my opinion, just before I stuck myself out there.

I actually do not take economics at my highschool. The opinion i expressed as my teacher's, 'tis mine. I watched the broadcast of "al-Qaida recruiting kids" today on Glen Beck's show

I found the videos of these pre-pubescent shrimps to be a great abhorance; these videos were fabrications in all definitions of the word. And these (obviously) would not have been the first..... erm.. iran gunboats.

i do hope you get banned for this...

mods what do you say?

I vote no ban. Twas a little white lie to invoke a response.

On the other hand, twas a bit underhanded. I vote for a fine.

At least the OP owned up to the charade within the first page.

EDIT to add:

And I'm sure the OP was expressing something very true anyway. I'll bet a lot of kids are brainwashed into believing hogwash.

[edit on 2/8/0808 by jackinthebox]

NVM __
I had to re-read the posts a some reason my eyes
said one person one post other the other yet didn't match up
to what was done in reality....
in that case

false info on purposes is a ban




[edit on 2/8/2008 by EvilBat]

reply to post by EvilBat

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its a hoax and
point trolling

reply to post by DaleGribble

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Edited my post above ..
lazy eyes at night

You accused your teacher of purposely misleading and then you purposely mislead. So what is the purpose of your post?

reply to post by B-Rad G

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Although I'm not sure about the Al Queda subject you are referring to, the media is most definitely biased.

For example, what have you heard from Ron Paul in the mainstream media? Probably almost nothing.

I was watching TV this morning and saw a report stating that Mit Romney has just dropped out so there are only 2 republican candidates currently running. In actuality there are 3 but they never mention Ron Paul. Why is that? The media knows he's running so why not mention him?

Faux news wants you scared and powerless