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Topic started on 7-2-2008 @ 07:41 AM by Grenade
Hi All,

Over the past few months there has been an ongoing discussion regarding Islam and one of the issues raised in my previous thread, was the integration of Sharia law into the UK.

Muhammad Thread

Personally i never thought this would happen however now we have the Archbishop of Canterbury stating "Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable' ".

Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'


The Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams says the adoption of Islamic Sharia law in the UK is "unavoidable".
Dr Williams told BBC Radio 4's World at One that the UK has to "face up to the fact" that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system.

Dr Williams argues that adopting some aspects of Sharia law would help maintain social cohesion.

For example, Muslims could choose to have marital disputes or financial matters dealt with in a Sharia court.

He says Muslims should not have to choose between "the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty".




Is this a taste of things to come? Whats your personal opinions on the effect this could have on UK culture if implemented?

(Not sure if ive posted in the correct forum so feel free to move it)





[edit on 7/2/08 by Grenade]


reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 08:56 AM by Animal
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


I assume Canada is where you live by the name, but by the title you give the natives of your land I would think Australia. regardless the point you bring up is VERY different that the idea of Sharia law in the UK. Here in the USA Native Americans have self sovrinity over their lands and to a certain degree their own ways of dealing with things. This makes sense as they are an oppressed nation. They were here first and then we came along and took it from them. So it seem a bit more logical that they would have rights that did not fit perfectly into the box of US laws.

In the case of Sharia law in the UK I would have to say, as an outsider, that it makes little sense. If there is a population of Muslims living their it is by their choice. If they CHOSE to move to the UK regardless of whether or not they like it they chose to accept the "Social Contract" that goes along with living inside a nation.

Now I am not trying t sound rude but maybe the UK could take come lessons from France. I think the population of Muslims in France is well over 25%, I almost want to say it is close to 50%. Although there is a lot of tension created by issues surrounding this community I do believe France has not allowed the creation of alternate laws to appease this portion of it's population.


reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 09:15 AM by Animal

Mus·lim (mzlm, mz-, ms-, ms-)
n.
1. also Mos·lem (mzlm, ms-) A believer in or adherent of Islam.
2. A member of the Nation of Islam; a Black Muslim.


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Is·lam (s-läm, z-, släm, z-)
n.
1. A monotheistic religion characterized by the acceptance of the doctrine of submission to God and to Muhammad as the chief and last prophet of God.
2.
a. The people or nations that practice Islam; the Muslim world.
b. The civilization developed by the Muslim world.


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It seems to me that what the poster was referring to was a group of people. Not one so easily identified by skin color or other physical characteristics but a group none the less. Still if I did use the wrong word because "Racist" does not apply, what ever the new word would have to be would essentially be representative of the same thing. And the point I made to that poster still stands.



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reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 09:15 AM by Freeborn
reply to post by justyc


The European Laws that had an impact on British Society have been modified.
Most European laws are not too dis-similar to British Law so they are not too radical a change.

Sharia Law is completely alien to British Society and is something that a minority of immigrants to this country wish to impose upon the majority.
That will never happen.

Turkey has been repeatedly denied entry into EU due to it's human rights record and probably because the vast majority of Turkey is in Asia and not Europe.


reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 09:18 AM by Animal
reply to post by marg6043


If you do not see racism, or what ever the appropriate word for it is in this ituation, in


over the last 2 years have come to completely detest the word muslim and all it stands for. (The emphasis is mine)


I wonder what it would take to make you see it.


reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 09:25 AM by Animal
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


Out of curiosity then, are you in fact from Australia? I am aware with the different titles given to these groups but thanks for sharing. I have the pleasure of living amongst the Pueblo's Nations here in New Mexico and of sharing a school within UNM with a group of planners who are interested in Aboriginal Issues so I get a fair bit of exposure.
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