Originally posted by hidatsa
reply to post by Dewm0nster
Funny thing is, I don't quite see this the way you do. I mean, yeah, there's been a mess of messing to get the thread started, but everything after
that has been about identifying hoaxers and "disinformers" (if that's a word) which is a fairly useful thing, in my blue book.
So far, and I could be waaaay wrong, here, but I think I've spotted three identities, three characters if you like, who might easily be the same
person, and one of them is the op. The art of disinformation is complex at best, but it has to include clever denials, debunks and even the
occasional support. I know I'll never know if I'm right, but perhaps I'm now a little more analytical, a little more skeptical, than I might
otherwise have been.
I kinda think this is a pretty useful thread, in some ways - tho' I can't yet bring myself to award it any stars or whatever ... I don't like
rewarding frauds and liars, either.
Do you care to say what ID's you think were actually the same person? I've already mentioned I believed zx4551 and no_one817 are one in the same,
but I never mentioned I believed there was also a third ID.
The ID's I think are all the same person are:
188.8.131.52 showed up in the original zx4551 thread. Registered the same day as the zx4551 ID and asked questions related to security. The job
no_one817 said he had at Area 51. Then talked about something happening in June but didn't say what.
Here's my theory and I'm not saying I'm right, I could be completely wrong:
no_one817 registers and creates that thread saying he's testing whether or not that he can be traced and that he has information about gl (Groom
Lake/Area 51). People saw that and took it as information on something about Aliens seeing how it dealt with Area 51. This first thread of his
appeared in January.
zx4551 registers on February 4th I believe and on the same day creates the thread saying he's a former Area 51 employee who will answer almost all
no_one817 enters that thread and says he's a present employee. Asks questions and was quick to call zx4551 out as a hoax before zx4551 even answers
questions. Why? Because no_one817 was really zx4551 and is using the zx4551 ID to throw people off. Ask zx4551 questions as no_one817. Sign in under
zx4551 and answer some questions but purposely ignore what was asked by no_one817. Sign back in under no_one817 and say things like "Since he didn't
answer my questions he's an obvious hoax."
During that time no_one817 creates his Q and A thread. He admits he created it because he believes zx4551 is a hoax, proved it already and wants
everyone to ignore him and focus on his thread. zx4551 created a second thread, but the same thing happened. He didn't answer much while no_one817
Well how convienant that zx4551 stopped posting not long after the other thread appeared and hasn't been back. That's because no_one817 had stopped
signing in under that ID and made zx4551 look even more like a hoax to give some credence to what no_one817 was saying. Pretty clever when you think
I believe the 184.108.40.206 ID was a small character also created by no_one817 that's he's keeping incase either or both of the other ID's get
banned. A back-up ID.
Nobody noticed that no_one817 didn't have much to say in his first thread until another Area 51 employee showed up. He even mentioned that two Area
51 employees showing up around the same time willing to answer questions was odd. He made all kinds of small comments that told me both were hoaxes
and the same person. Whether he was doing that on purpose or not I don't know.
I could be completely wrong here, but that's what I think was going on.
[edit on 15-2-2008 by nightmare_david]