reply to post by BlueRaja
The problem is that there are so many authority figures that WILL abuse their position that to even give them the benefit of the doubt can bhe a
huge mistake. I assume that a cop is a lying , perjuring bully until proven otherwise. Most are, so to give them the presumption of innocence is to
disregard the overwhelming mountain of hard evidence that proves that police misconduct is out of control in this nation.
I could understand if now and then a cop acted badly and was punished for it; things happen. But when hundreds of attorneys acrross the nation can
make a living ( a very good living ) from NOTHING BUT misconduct cases, something is badly wrong. Yes? If most of the claims against cop's were not
valid, then lawyers would not be specializing in that area of the law to a great degree; the lawyers go where the money flows..and it flows to those
who can prove police crimes.
Raja, you seem to be a sincere, intelligent and polite person; I like you, I really do. We are not far apart I am sure on most issues; I tend to get
more wrapped up in this subject because I have studied the law many years ago ( never took the Bar ) and because living in the south in a small town
in the mountains of Appalachia I see a lot of unprofessional conduct by cop's, and it gets me angry.
But not only cop's abuse people; let me tell you what I am going thru right now, as we write: My son, 16, ( his Mom and I are divorced ) is in a
camp type place a few counties over for kids that need help getting it together. He is a rebellious stage and acting out, and was resisting ALL
authority, including mis Mom's and mine also. Many kids today are confused and have the same situations. I thought that making him toughen up and
stop making excuses and learn how life really is would do him some good, and when he got in trouble the last time ( he lived with my ex for the last
year ) I told him either it's juvvy or this camp.
He chose camp. He is trying hard and making it, although with minor issues. Last weekend, I found out that in mid January ( I was never even
notfied) he was on a forced hike, and at the end he sat and was exhausted and had to reat. He is tall and skinny, weighing maybe 140 -150 soaking wet.
The huge female counselor, weighing in at over 250 easily, and not all fat..a big strong woman, had refused to let him rest, and when he refused to
get up and walk, instead of waiting or having another staffer stay with him while the othewrs went on, she simply reached down, grabbed him by his
arm, and DRAGGED HIM ACROSS GRAVEL AND ROCKS UNTIL HIS OTHER ARM WAS RIPPED OPEN AND BLEEDING!!
They tried to cover it up ( they say it was a ' communications issue ') by stating on the report for the medical log ( they had to patch him up )
'grabbed by arm'. It did NOT say' '..and dragged across stones' of course. Tbey were hoping he would heal and it would be forgotten. But when my
ex saw the damage to his arm at a visit ( he only gets visits quarterly ) she became very upset, notified me and I got on the phone and made some
Now social services has launched an investigation as well as the Sheriff, the camp admin. called me yesterday and told me that her conduct was
totally unacceptable, etc. When I asked him why it took almost a month for his parents to find out, he tried to tell me that because the counselor
that draged him didn't l;abel the log accurately, no one picked up on it. He admitted that it looked like a coverup.
The staffer has taken vacation leave while the investigation is going on, and I have assured all concerned that if social services does not charge
her, I will. In NC if you are 16 or older you can sign a warrant yourself, and my son will do so if the system fails. His arm will be permeenently
scarred, unless plastic surgery is done..and soon. You know what that means..a lawsuit is coming.
I told the admin. that I know the progeam is good, and they are a good organization, but that the staffer MUST be fired and charged before I will
even think about backing up a step. I promised that if they do not do the right thing here that I will launch a campaign to humiliate them and force
their financial backers ( the Ekerd Foundation ) to assess the actions of the admin. to see if he is taking care of the kids properly.
I am a pretty efectice pain in the ass when needed: I can get attention focused at the right places to get results. Pressure and publicity can do
miracles. However, I want my son to remain and tough it out; as long as he is treated humanely he needs the discipline and to stick with a commitment
until completion, despite what happened to him. I think he will come out of it better able to handle life.
He was so despondent after the dragging, injured and abused and scarred, knowing that his parents had no clue ( they are not allowed any phone
calls, only snail mail ) tha he cut his arm to try and get attention to his desperation and had to be placed on suicide watch. Now that I have gone
over there and seen him, and talked to him, he is better and will try and stay and work it out. BUT I made it clear that if the camp does not do
right, and if this woman is allowed to remain, then it will be Katie Bar the Door and the fight will be on.
She WILL be charged criminally, and thats a fact. I can do it myself or my sone can, and we will. She will NOT be allowed to abuse any son of mine
and walk away..no way. After court, if convicted, then the camp of course will have to fire her because if not I would shame them to the heavens until
they did. A spotlight can be effective when trained on the target long enough; all it takes is the right person to notice. The admin. can see whats
coming, and will say little, citing the open investigation, but we talked fopr an hour and I am sure that they will do the right thing; if not I am
So people in authority need not carry a badge to abuse and get away with it; they almost did in this case, but luckily we uncovered the event and
exposed it. The camp should have called social services and the cop's as soon as it happened; that they did not makes them look bad from the start.
But now he needs plastic surgery so he doesn't have to see his arm scarred for life , and I promise you I will not be the one to pay for it!!
I am contacting local lawyers where he is ( it is a few counties away from me ) so a lawsuit can be started, or at least a demand for payments for
his injuries, both physical and emotional. I am tenacious and unrelenting most of the time, can you imagine me when my blood is involved? I am like a
Plott Hound on a bear....and can worry them to death long before they hit the ground in defeat.
Authority is a terrible thing; it allows one man to take free will away from us, and that means that those with authority have a special obligation
to be right and use only the best possible judgement at all times to safeguard our rights and justify the trust they insist that we give them.
Here's another example, also current: My other son, 13, who lives with me and his 19 year old sister, is severly disabled with Aspergers Syndrome,
ADHD, ODD, PDD, and others . He takes four heavy meds a day. At times, he cannot resist impulses; if some other kid teases him, he may say " F---
You" before he has even thought about any consequences. He is a bit paranoid and assumes that people can tell he is ' different ' by looking at
him, although this is not so. So if someone stares at him, or seems to be, he gets agitated wondering why.
The school system here is bankrupt and so is the mental health apparatus. Broken and gone, admitted by all. They have NO teachers that go to the
home for kids that cannot socialize; they demand that they attend regular school so they can get the funds for the child; if they are not at school,
they get no money for him. BUT, here is what happens when he acts out: They simply criominally charge him!!! Yes, you read that right. The school told
me thgat because they have no funds for a teacher to go to homes, they are forced to refer all prolems to the courts. The charges get dismissed of
course, becauee no probable cause exists to file them in the first place. it is a desperation measure.
If I keep my son home when the meds are reacting and he has issues, they will charge ME with truancy!!! If I send him to school and he acts out his
disability, then they charge him with disorderly conduct, etc, and try to pressure the parent to home school them, thus taking the problem away from
them and placing it on us. I am NOT a teacher by nature and not patient enough to do the job right. He needs an education ( he does academics well
when not distracted ) and I am in a Cath 22; if I send him, her gets phony charges placed which I then have to have dropped.
They force attendance, and then when the inevitable happens, they turn it over to the cop's instead of doctors and professionals!! They simply want
the money for other things: The high school football team gets new uniforms every year..the band travels all over..but yet the officially disabled get
charged criminally when their disabilities become a bother to them. Think I have a full plate this month?
My point is that there are so MANY levels of authority in our society that it is impossible to not be under some other influence all the time, and
if the authority is corrupt or uncaring, or broke, then we suffer. I judge authority this way: If the authority fails to do right, then they lose any
ability to retain that authority other than thru force, and that is what we are seeing nationwide; More force needed to keep authoity that has failed
to act responsibly.
I am NOT looking for sympathy: I am a tough old coot who loves a fair fight and who usually wins..but kids need help today to deal with reality.