I truly love this forum, and its knowledge base, but I can see why future whistle blowers would avoid posting here. Its just a snake-pit on all sides, from top to bottom. UFOlogy eats its own...again and again.

I find it ridiculous that out of all the security they have there, only one person checks people as they come in and as they leave. Sorry everyone, but I'm not buying that. I'm surprised a lot of you are buying that little piece of info there. One person controlling all that? I don't think so.

He's never said that. In fact he has stated that at times there are up to 100 people doing it. He never claimed to be the only person doing the debriefings.

Especially a story that has changed a couple times now.

To be fair, most of what he has been saying has never changed from the very beginning. There are discrepancies in some of the details, which I think is significant but he has stuck to his story right from the first post.

if he was the real deal he would know that the admins would ask for some kind of legitimate proof of who he is, something they can confirm and he hasn't done it

I never expected he would. If he was the real deal, there would be no way he could provide it to everyones satisfaction. I was of the opinion that he would eventually fall down over some mundane issue which would end up showing definitively that he wasn't what he claimed to be, rather than him proving that he was.

I guess this thread is in its last throes, seeing that I found it on page 2 of the most active threads. I am still curious as to the outcome of the admin "investigation" into no_one's claims of employment. Since it is not being addressed here I was going to u2u SO.

I have noticed that no_one has been in and out today but the post tracking button on the profile page seems to have disappeared. Does anyone else have any info?

Originally posted by scooler1
I guess this thread is in its last throes, seeing that I found it on page 2 of the most active threads

Certainly looks that way. Makes it kind of pointless posting this but I hate to see the effort go to waste. There is more of this but I guess it doesn't matter now-

Within two questions of the Q & A thread, the OP is already being asked about aliens and time travel before the basics of his story have even been established. He wisely ignores these and gives us some fundamentals about his role and the situation. A poster asks if there is a military force as well as the cammo dudes as security on the base and the OP replies-

Yes, at the Cedar Gate and the Back Gate. The guys in the trucks are all private

This seems to be at odds with a later posting where, in reply to the question is he military of civilian, he claims to be civilian and all his paychecks are from EE&G. He then gets challenged by a poster who insists the Cedar Gate is not actually an entrance to Groom Lake and replies thus-

Did I say it was or wasn't? My men man the cedar gate was simply my only point”

Surely that can’t be. The OP claims to be a civilian but has previously told us that military security operate the Cedar Gate. Does this mean that he is lying about his status? It would also fit with his statement in the ‘testing’ thread that he has not broken “a single signed order” Or does it just mean, once again, that he is making it up as he goes along? Either way, these inconsistencies are noteworthy.

A couple of pages later, the assassination plot is revealed and the OP is questioned about whether his further revelations about being involved with debriefing the persons involved will compromise his identity. These sessions only happened last year but according to the OP-

over a year ago, any transcripts or records of who debriefed who have since been erased

Excuse me? Are we seriously being asked to accept that a top secret government facility that is involved in highly classified weapons development projects and other issues vital to national security (as the saying goes) dump all their files after less than a year? Especially ones relating to the small matter of assassination of a high ranking political figure, the murder of American citizens and plunging the world into further conflict in the middle east…However, the question of his identity being secure goes on and the OP starts changing the dates that he claims events happened and he is accused of changing his story. The OP eventually replies-

If you thinki I gave the correct month for this boards sake, you are wrong. If you really want me to put itin black and white I will. I said the wrong time on purpose. For obvious reasons. The time period between now and when I said I was scared of being traced gave me enough time to realize I was in the clear. Again, I would like to know how my story has changed? Time has passed and now I chose to let details out that I normally wouldn't have in the beginning.

So he’s lied about the month for security reasons. So what else has he lied about for ‘security reasons’ but hasn’t been pulled up on? This spreads doubt on everything he is saying if he admits he is changing facts on purpose. Anything he says is now not reliable. I also cannot work out how changing the month makes it untraceable? How many presidential candidate assassination plots do they have going through the place every year? He also adds in a later post-

There were no lies dear sir. I didn't give the exact details for pure safety. Truth is all i speak here. I hope you can understand”

If truth was all he spoke he wouldn’t be changing facts. ‘I said the wrong time on purpose’ is not telling the truth i.e. lies which he says there are none of. But we’ve now established that he’s knowingly provided false information so he tries to stop the discussion-

I'm not going to go tit for tat with you. I've explained myself to the point of exhaustion. March might not be the truth

And-

Why are you not understanding this. I have answered this long enough, if it is not good enough for you, Im sorry

In less than 10 pages the OP has managed to tell everyone that he is a liar. But then we knew that anyway.

Originally posted by j_goose
I hate when I think of something else to say after I've posted!!!

I'm not sure how the point syste works, but I would have been glad to have participated in the chat with no_one.

but here's my other point. Sure, there's private security firms guarding parts of 51. That's been verified. However, in my exparience, all the debriefings I was privy to, involved MILLITARY PERSONNEL. Not a civillian.

And that was usually "run of the mill" debriefs.

I would imagine that at a place such as 51, a HIGH RANKING OFFICER would do the cool down, NOT some outside company.

I remember thinking this when I read the debriefing posts he typed. But, I DO drink alot of beer, and forgot what I was going to say at the time.

Not to say you are incorrect, and maybe so with a normal Military facility. I also have a TS and after working with gov. contracts have been debriefed by a civilian (someone from the companies legal department for example). In order to be debriefed, you just need the person debriefing you to have a clearance and a whitness who also has eligibility. Area-51 works with places such as lockheed and I'm sure they have someone to debrief people on contracts that have ended. I could be wrong however, just throwing in my 2 cents...

Edit: Just realized I was a couple pages behind, so sorry if that seemed a little random.. haha

[edit on 2/13/2008 by ShivanX]

perhaps red flag is over and no_one went back to work, only to be met by his superiors that were waiting for him...

dum dum dummm

I u2u'd SO to see if there was anything new from the admins but have yet to get a reply. Based on SO's posts on this thread I assumed that they were in contact with no_one and working something out so that he could remain here.

I think it's kinda weird that there haven't been any updates about this. Usually when ATS finds out something is a hoax they update the thread and re-title it with "HOAX" but none of that has happened.

Personally, I think this guy was being somewhat truthful with us. To be honest, I don't think he was assigned the job that he stated. I think he was in another higher-up position and was claiming to be security so as to further cover himself if this site/thread was being watched. I think that is why there were some discrepancies in what he said. Just my opinion.

Any thoughts?

Originally posted by Odessy
perhaps red flag is over and no_one went back to work, only to be met by his superiors that were waiting for him...

dum dum dummm

According to the information I have (I consider it very reliable), Red flag is not scheduled to end until Friday, 15Feb08.

Do some digging, I'm certain you'll confirm this.

Oh yes Doghead spilled his guts over Pine Gap. It was a really fun thread in my opinion. I know the gentlemen is a writer, I would love to read some of his fiction. To be honest it was 3x as informative as no_one or zx843219 thread. At least I thought it was, cause I knew squat about Pine Gap.

Goldtop nice research pal....i think the OP is over....well anyway people here believes in whatever they trow to them (from jhon titor to planet X)...what else can you expect....

Originally posted by AlexDJ
Goldtop nice research pal....i think the OP is over....well anyway people here believes in whatever they trow to them (from jhon titor to planet X)...what else can you expect....

You're joking right? How exactly does one "trow"?

[edit on 13-2-2008 by AGENT51]