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Originally posted by Buck Division
What were the pyramids for? If you say they were built for religious purposes, I’m going to ask you for evidence. (Edit: see my footnote below.)
Originally posted by ambushrocks
I dont think Dr. Hawass is allowed by the government to reply in a positive or neutral way to questions about "alternative egyptology". Recently I spoke to a friend of mine who had been to egypt to find out about the spiritual meaning of the pyramids. When he tried to talk to locals they reacted scared. He had the impression that talking about these things would be dangerous for the people living there.
The Egyptian labyrinth was so named by the Greeks after the legendary complex of meandering halls designed by Daedalus for King Minos of Crete (wherein the Minotaur dwelt). Herodotus wrote of the Labyrinth in the fifth century B.C. (History, 2.148-49):
Furthermore, they resolved to leave a memorial of themselves in common, and in pursuance of this resolve they made a labyrinth, a little above Lake Moeris, and situated near what is called the City of the Crocodiles. I saw it myself and it is indeed a wonder past words; for if one were to collect together all of the buildings of the Greeks and their most striking works of architecture, they would all clearly be shown to have cost less labor and money than this labyrinth. Yet the temple at Ephesus and that in Samos are surely remarkable. The pyramids, too, were greater than words can tell, and each of them is the equivalent of many of the great works of the Greeks; but the labyrinth surpasses the pyramids also. It has 12 roofed courts, with doors facing one another, 6 to the north and 6 to the south and in a continuous line. There are double sets of chambers in it, some underground and some above, and their number is 3,000; there are 1,500 of each. We ourselves saw the aboveground chambers, for we went through them so we can talk of them, but the underground chambers we can speak of only from hearsay. For the officials of the Egyptians entirely refused to show us these, saying that there were, in them, the coffins of the kings who had built the labyrinth at the beginning and also those of the holy crocodiles. So we speak from hearsay of these underground places; but what we saw aboveground was certainly greater than all human works.
And what of the structure of the Labyrinth itself at Hawara? There is nothing left. W.M. Flinders Petrie wrote (Ten Years Digging in Egypt, pp. 91-92):
Though the pyramid was the main object at Hawara, it was but a lesser part of my work there. On the south of the pyramid lay a wide mass of chips and fragments of building, which had long generally been identified with the celebrated labyrinth. Doubts, however, existed, mainly owing to Lepsius having considered the brick buildings on the site to have been part of the labyrinth. When I began to excavate the result was soon plain, that the brick chambers were built on the top of the ruins of a great stone structure; and hence they were only the houses of a village, as they had at first appeared to me to be. But beneath them, and far away over a vast area, the layers of stone chips were found; and so great was the mass that it was difficult to persuade visitors that the stratum was artificial, and not a natural formation. Beneath all these fragments was a uniform smooth bed of beton or plaster, on which the pavement of the building had been laid: while on the south side, where the canal had cut across the site, it could be seen how the chip stratum, about six feet thick, suddenly ceased, at what had been the limits of the building. No trace of architectural arrangement could be found, to help in identifying this great structure with the labyrinth: but the mere extent of it proved that it was far larger than any temple known in Egypt. All the temples of Karnak, of Luxor, and a few on the western side of Thebes, might be placed together within the vast space of these buildings at Hawara.
The case of Amenemhet III's funerary temple being the labyrinth is circumstantial at best. There is no trace of the funerary temple's plan, only its perimeter. It is not located at the corner of a pyramid, nor does it have underground chambers. The only evidence in its favor seems to be its questionable proximity, about 15 miles, to a lake called Moeris (the neighboring Crocodilopolis is not compelling as several other towns bore the same name). For the lake shore to reach the temple, Medinet el Fayyum would necessarily be submerged. It may well be that the labyrinth described by Herodotus and other ancient writers has not been discovered, and lies yet hidden somewhere beneath the desert sands.
Another poster already tried to deny the fact in this thread, but it DOES have an effect on modern egyptology that the country is strictly and most conservatively islamic.
The following statement reportedly made by Marvin A. Powell, Assyriologist of the Northern Illinois University is most surprising though (rough translation): "Of the 500 000 cuneiform tablets, only 20% are published. Another 80% are translated, but we havent published them yet. They contain a lot of information on Astronomy, foreign planetary systems, visitors from the stars, and data on the origins of mankind. By publishing them we would only provide fodder for the Daniken-crowd".
Originally posted by NewWorldOver
whatever truths there are about pre-history and the technological, nuclear civilizations that existed before us will always be covered up by well paid 'skeptics' (sold-out scientists).
Originally posted by NewWorldOver
looks like the coverups are somewhat acknowledge by people within the profession and not just catching the curiosity of casual observers...
I'm sure whatever truths there are about pre-history and the technological, nuclear civilizations that existed before us will always be covered up by well paid 'skeptics' (sold-out scientists).
Originally posted by Hanslune
Unitl the mid 20th century almost all Egyptogists were not Egyptian nor Muslim. Even today a large percentage are not Egyptian or Muslim.