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Originally posted by kaferwerks
reply to post by TheWalkingFox
But doesn't this go against how accurate the c14 is supposed to be? I went and read a little about it and there are as many people out there that say it doesn't work as well as main stream science claims. Now I understand it is the web and there is as much bad info as good...so I take it all with a grain of salt
I also understand the arrogance of man and the horrors that have been commited because some has thought that they were above others...This leads me to this question...How many times in history have we (and I mean mankind here) developed a theory/opinion though it wasn't correct and ran with it anyway? If we are going to be wrong we will all be wrong kind of thing? It is the old we have picked a course and we will stay on this course attitude. Like when a auto manufacturer knowingly sends out a defective car and will address any issues if they are reported. I know I dont make a lot of sense but I have a lot of questions that I just need to sit down and write out properly and organize the ask but there were a couple that I had to throw out to begin to see the forest..so to speak
I am trying to wrap my mind around all of the info I have read here and what doesnt make any sense to me is that the people that say that the Egyptians did all of this on their own and had no help...but there is a total lack of documentation for the pyramids(I know both sides of this have been discussed and I can see both sides of the coin here...I;m just trying to get somewhere with it) but take a adamant stance that they did the building themselves.
Now, we also have documentation saying that there were Gods and that the Gods were involved in their lives....enough to write about it and record it for generations...I know you could argue finding the bible or something like that in the future...but for every bible you found I would bet that you could find something that would say different...How much (if any) information has been found in egypt that says that the gods were not real? I understand that they were supposed to be part of a religion but what if they weren't...Without definitive proof you cannot confirm or deny that these "Gods" were real. Real humans w/ extraordinary knowledge?
Now, I went and looked up the elongated skulls and there were places on the web that were both pro and con. Some place stated that if the skulls were a result of binding that the volume doesnt change just the shape...but the volume of these skulls are obviously larger....Now could you take a small piece of the material from the skull and have dna tests done on them to see if in fact that they were human? If so why hasn't anyone done this...what would they be afraid of finding out? That it was indeed a human but just deformed?
I dont know enough about the subject and could really piss off the people here with a million questions that probally get asked a lot. I am just asking ?'s that I have trying to clarify some things....Right now it is all muddy...but MY personal belief is that the puramids are much older than believed...why would that be so hard for people to accept? If the egyptians could build such marvels w/o anydocumentation saying so then why could'nt people much older do the same? I read things all of the time that say we are not any smarter than people back then...so why?
sorry for the way this is put together
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by kaferwerks
Then the Egyptian writing and carving would be pretty puzzling
Even without a written language, people leave marks and symbols to signify "I was here" or whatever.
According to Wikipedia it is at 33b in an annotated version, I checked and indeed it is:
"As for the figure, the demiurge created the world in the geometric form of a globe. Indeed, the round figure is the most perfect one, because it comprehends or averages all the other figures and it is the most omnimorphic of all figures: "he [the demiurge] considered that the like is infinitely fairer than the unlike" (33b)."
I could not find an annotated version online so I have located the passage and reproduced it for you here. My copy of the Timaeus reads;
33b: "And he gave the world the figure which was suitable and also natural. Now to the animal which was to comprehend all animals, that figure would be suitable which comprehends within itself all other figures. Wherefore he made the world in the form of a globe, round as from a lathe, having its extremes in every direction equidistant from the center, the most perfect and most like itself of all figures, for he considered that the like is infinitely fairer than the unlike."
This is only one example of Plato and the ancient Greeks speaking of the world as a "sphere" or "globe." Contrary to popular conception, the ancients were well aware of the fact that the Earth was round, it wasnt until the Christian church gained power that this bit of information was "lost" or suppressed.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by Skyfloating
Wait wait. You make a claim, and then tell me to go look it up when I have a question about it? I'm not sure you know how this works. The burden of proof is on you. If you are certain that what you claim is true, then you should be happy to provide links and documentation backing up your assertions, right? Why the hell should I do your research for you?