The all seeing eye and psychic abilities, page 1

Hello, and welcome.

This thread is designed to attempt to uncover what it is that gives some the ability to 'read' other people and how they do it.
Some say it is to do with the mysterious 'third eye' in the centre of our foreheads. Maybe it's true. Some feel it is a connectivity we all share with each other, like lines of energy joining us all together.

Some disbelieve completely in astrology, tarot and palmistry.
Here, you will find that I use none of the above. The example we're going to use is my thread on Avatar Symbolisms in BTS. But first I hope you can all take the time to read Buck Divisions thread on The convergence of Jupiter and Venus which is what got the ball rolling.

Buck put forward this;

By Buck Division

I think you have legitimately demonstrated a psychic ability to read people, backing up some of the earlier discussions on this thread.

In particular, I note that you are actually reading a person based upon something that person consciously select (as you describe above.) It is a type of "superperception", which is much more rational than following detached physical phenomenon, such as star gazing.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

It is from his prompt that this has begun.

Reading through Bucks thread will show you how I see these things operate.
Once you've done that, I hope you can then find the time to go through my thread on Avatar Symbolisms to see exactly what all the fuss is about. There's also a bit more info there which I've posted and I'm sure some of you will bring up a few questions that I will try to answer.

This is, of course, an attempt to confirm Bucks point that I have "legitimately demonstrated a psychic ability". There are times where I get a lot more information from some people than I would with others.

I hope we can all bring together some good data on this and that some from the scientific fields would take an interest to put their points forward, which is most important for a lot of people.

A method has been talked about and then a 'field test' (still on-going) was performed, so now we need to piece together further questions and hopefully a conclusion.

Kurokage asked me;

How old were you when you started to get those weird feelings that you knew something or someone and did you ever try psychometry.

www.belowtopsecret.com...

It's hard to say really, I started watching people and being generally observant sometime around my early teens. It's not something that I suddenly woke up to. It seems to have grown on me as time has gone by. It wasn't until my twenties where I started to take more of an interest into it, although i had been reading about ghosts and UFO's since I was about six yrs. old.

From what I've read, people who have wanted to enhance the ability have tried many things, Tarot, Astrology, nutmeg, crystal balls and various natural substances. It appears these have been quite successful methods for those most commonly known.

Yes, I've tried Psychometry, once. It was actually for someone who was reading the contents of peoples wallets to give a profile of them. I offered to do a reading for the reader. Took his wallet, but I didn't open like he had the others. i then prceeded to give my reading.

I've no idea how good or bad it was as he didn't say a single word afterwards. He just bought me a drink. I don't recall saying another thing about it to each other even weeks after the event. So, although it was only once..I've done it

Here ya go. Keep us posted as to how you do. It works for lots of folks. Free from my bud rysa5.

www.youtube.com...

Thank you for that Illahee, but these types of videos and reports and books etc. talk about such things and express opinions that a lot of sceptics shy away from.

My point of this thread is tied in with the links I have provided in my first post here. As is stated, it is believed that I have demonstrated an ability.

This is the major difference between knowing all about it, preaching it, and or relying on the teachings of others to learn the ways of doing it.

In my mind, some of the information given by a lot of similarly related items do nothing but confuse with talk of spirits and higher beings, realms and inter-dimensionality etc. etc.

Don't get me wrong. I fully respect and understand everyones opinions and beliefs but the proof is in the pudding as they say.

Anyway, thank you for posting it. It's a shame that guy sounds like he's about to fall asleep though

Personally I much prefer to watch 'What the bleep do we know..' This touches on quantum physics and is, in a way, as much as good method of explaining a lot of things as your posted link or anyone elses. hope you get some time to check it.

reply to post by desert

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Desert, you are more than welcome.

I am glad you have found that connection.
The setting sun in your avatar, to me, was a very significant point. Your post here just strengthens the subconscious act we all generally make when choosing objects, items, avatars for ourselves.

What seems like a random act is actually driven by something deeper inside us.

Most of the reading i have done usually present me with words which lead to connections of things and i occasionally get images too. The images stand out in my mind, like a dream actually, and I get more words from them.

The point with the words is that i can feel what they say, rather than seeing a word in my head. So the words are literally expressed as an emotion to me.

Yes, these types of people are also known as Empaths, which is a field of clairvoyance. i believe i posted a link to wikipedia with that explanation on another thread but I'll put one here too as this thread is about collecting the data after all.

Empath is a term coming into common usage to refer to a person with a feeling expanded sensitivity or clairsentience.

en.wikipedia.org...

In the field of parapsychology, clairsentience [From the French clair, “clear,” + sentience, “feeling,” ultimately derived from the Latin clarus, “clear,” + sentiens, derived from sentire, “to feel”] is a form of extra-sensory perception wherein a person acquires psychic knowledge primarily by means of feeling.

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by Extralien

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Oh yeah, I forgot to say put the tea water on, or get a cup of coffee, before watching it.

He has I think 175 of those. Might be 200 now. It pretty much gives an entry level primer explaining quite a bit about the third eye.

I do like What the Bleep. I reference it a few times in the LOA thread. Its pretty good entry level material.

reply to post by John Q

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Not bad, nice attempt. I'm only calm and relaxed when I'm not stressed and angry. hehehehehe.

Yeah, i got a fairly creative mind that's busy most of the time.

Kind of a logically rational logic...

I cant bend answers, i can try to answer them differently, but we're all aware the truth of the answer we all finally come to.

Putting the images into words is a bit hard sometimes as you might see something that you deem important but has absolutley no relevance to the person you're doing a reading for, so if you mention it then the readings wrong, but it's possible that if you don't mention it, then what could have been a major breakthrough is lost forever.

This is a good point to note as we continue with this topic. If you do see or feel something about someone, how much info do you give out? A major issue might get missed.

On reply to your previous question;

Is it all based on the psychology of reading people, personal script, or personal symbols. Which is used to "predict" or "read" the person, is there any unknown force at work here at all...or is it both.

U2U
Yes it is a form of psychology, though i'm self taught, symbols and text do say a lot about someone, though in this case I only use the avatars.

This is the point of my thread for the discussion of this,.. if there is an unkown force then it's going to be hard to locate or prove. I do seem to connect with something, be it my subconscious or a higher level of some descript i can't really say.. logic and science do come into this very much. We forget how alchemy led to chemistry, witches wizards and wise old people led to doctors and brain surgeons..

You yourself have now just begun to see and understand how it's done and how it works. you've trusted what you feel and expressed it.
It's only logical to look at it from all view points and try to comprehend what is going on and it's nice to have someone like you here to look at all the questions and answers in this thread.

I personally believe every one can do it. They say young children are more open to seeing hosts than adults are. We are blinded by so much as we grow, there's nobody or anything to show us alternative possibilities in this life. We're all hurriedly rushed off to school without a second glance.

Edit to add...

Forgot to mention..
You've all had a taste of how i think and work by the way I write and what I write. If you've read the threads then you've gained foresight into me, so doing a reading of my avatar is biased as you've already gained a subconscious opinion. I do all the avatar reading 'dry', from scratch, with no pre-knowledge (to the best of my ability, and i do try to state if i already partly know someone).

[edit on 6-2-2008 by Extralien]

reply to post by Illahee

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close on a couple of points, the rest is almost the opposite.

Nice reading though. It's me that has trouble doing the things that others make simple. If I do give words of 'direction' (would be more advice rather than an order) nobody listens anyway.

I don't try to work things out. the reality is that we all keep learning, the day we die we learn what that is like..

reply to post by John Q

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I can see the big smile on your face when you found that avatar, and the warm glow of deep pride you felt as you posted it into place and watched it come online.

it's this pride of place that you've given the image that shows your politeness and how you deal with others. You don't like getting your image or your name tarnished.

The picture itself struck a big chord in you that made you buzz with one of the biggest WOW's you've had..

Yes, I do tend to start off with logic.. you need to give your brain some food first, then it just seems to flow. I don't sit there and study a picture for ages and work it all out on paper.

Once I get started, the rest flows... it's like a book being streamed into my head.. the info just comes, be it an emotion, image or pure common sense...If I get stuck, a quick glance back to the picture helps a bit.

No, I have not seen any of your other posts. I have tried to state (and will do from now on) all those that I have had some contact with here on ATS.

Regarding the candle in my avatar.. the water reflects how all is not what it seems and shows endless possibilities. Life needs balance. fire and water, Earth and air. day and night, right and wrong, up and down, life and death.

edit to add.

Yes you would get better the more you do it. The brain makes connections to things you do regularly. Training the brain is something we all do yet believe we are being taught...

edit to add#2

If you read the quote by Buck Division in the first post here, and then compare it to some of the readings and responses I get, then this brings in a bigger question. The superperception as Buck describes it seems to just pop into my head.

For example,
earthchild popped in and wanted a reading, to which I said;

Blue eyes perhaps?

www.belowtopsecret.com...
I asked it as a question as the actual question came to me. I saw (or believed I saw) in my head two blue eyes, and in those eyes was the question, are they blue or not? It was the expression of the eyes that gave the question.
To which earthchild replied;

I have piercing green eyes though for some reason a lot of people seem to remember them as blue.... including my own husband!!

www.belowtopsecret.com...
Now that's a pretty good read from my part.. What I saw as a question is an actual question that is regularly posed to earthchild. The chances of me knowing that beforehand are very very slim. Actually, I had absolutely no idea, yet at the time I did the reading the question appeared.

Here's another example taken from the reading of benevolent tyrant

Even mentioning the fact that I am tall (6'2") and my personal principled struggle to "defend all, no matter race, creed, colour." This is something that I publicly espouse to family, friends and anyone who might care to ask.

www.belowtopsecret.com...
There's no way I could have known that, yet I picked up on it.
Yes, some things are ordinary, daily,, run of the mill stuff that a vast majority may share, but certain points do come up that give more depth and feeling to the reading.

Is it a form of telepathy? Is it something else? Superperception?

It would be interesting to get plugged into one of those brain activity scanner things to see what parts of my brain light up when I do the readings.
Chances of that happening are quite low though... any offers?

[edit on 6-2-2008 by Extralien]

[edit on 6-2-2008 by Extralien]

reply to post by ucanneverdie

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I fully understand what you are expressing. Some call it intuition. Others would say you're just naturally skilled at reading people which gives attributes about them to you.

Only you know for sure though.

I get similar things when I watch people too but you may be taking more time to observe than I usually do.

I'm glad you found ATS and have written in this thread. Perhaps, in time, anyone who posts here will help to put into perspective the things we experience.

I know what I can do and how it occurs, but not why or the outside influences that cause the 'ability'. The why is not too much of an importance as the cause is far more interesting at this time.

Thank you for adding to this thread.

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