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Ex-Area 51 Employee - Will answer almost all questions

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posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 12:37 PM
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My question is, why did you choose ATS as your forum and how did you know about ATS to give out this information?

Also, can you give us a phone number to AREA 51? that would not give away your identity.Then we check that way.




posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 12:38 PM
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If this were me and I were the genuine article, I'd be very hesitant as well. Until your post no real explanation of the request was given; just a demand. I'm actually surprised he came back at all given the tone of the initial request.

I'd say give it time and if he is a hoax, he will hang himself. Let some trust develop before making demands for personal information. I know there are a lot of hoaxes finding their way here but the emotion that causes should not cloud peoples judgment so much they drive off the people the board should want to attract.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 12:40 PM
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While I understand your reasons for questioning this poster, I'm trying to put myself in his shoes. If I were someone who had this information, not only would I never speak a word of it, but if I did, I would make sure that I did so in a manner where i could never be discovered. Maybe he doesn't trust the mods, maybe is a hoaxer who doesn't want his moment of fame to end. I'm sure there are other means to verify the validity of his posts other than simply finding out where he is posting from. Giving that information out could severely narrow his whereabouts from what presumably is a long list of possible ex-a51 employees. As you can imagine, government whistle blowers are typically dealt with in a not so friendly manner, so I can appreciate his apprehension.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 12:45 PM
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im sorry, but i have to write this. As i normally don't point things like this out to debunk or say that your full of it, but your spelling is that of a 7th grader..Your stories are starting to fall apart...First you said the speaker didnt work because of an altitude problem, something along the lines of being to high up or something...Now your sayin it has something to do with the anti-gravity propulsion system...Which is it? Can you help me out on this...As im starting to think your story is Swiss Cheese...id have to say we have a point troller



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 12:47 PM
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Thanks for the info gotrox. My psych 101 got zx4551 back on the board you think?
He doesn't seem to be able to answer my questions either.
Probably because he can't google them. zx4551 could have contacted Dave of the ATS mix for an interview and questions. But instead chose to plaster it on the main board, with no verifications or proof.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 12:47 PM
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My thread was closed after about 3 or 4 pages covering 2 or three days. I am not on this site 24 hours a day like some. I just explained what the Bob Lazar story was about.

Yes verifying locations is important. I am not asking for a current location. If he was a fellow employee he would be able to answer some basic questions posed by myself. I do not want to ask them until he is ready to answer within minutes, not hours.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 12:48 PM
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Brigand and Blaine, as I said, contacting the staff member, regardless of whether he wants to divulge the information requested, is the issue here. Blatantly ignoring the staff's request for contact is not going to help him (or her) get his story out. He (she?) can simply u2u the staff member and say "I won't give out that info" but perhaps there's another way we can try and solve the issue.

That said, we await the member's return to posting and the u2u he should be sending to Intrepid. So, in the interim, keep asking him (her) the questions you want to ask and keep doing what you do best, digging into the stories presented.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 12:54 PM
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zx4551...

May I suggest that the next time you post, that you state in clear terms the following:-

1. The reasons why you are coming forward now, and not earlier with 'information' you feel needs letting out of the bag.

2. Please state if possible, what area of 'disclosure' you want to discus in this thread. This would save questions being asked that you are unable, or not able to answer.

3. Producing hard, verifiable evidence to back up your claims is extremely very difficult to do, however, being able to predict a future event or events, relating to your 'background' would go some way to backing up your claims.

4. You mentioned work being carried out on time travel. Are you able to go more into what's being done at present? Is there any web site that covers this particular project so we can read up on this further?. Would you be able to add further 'facts' to what might already be written about this project?.

Kind Regards


Freelancer



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 12:56 PM
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I'll pose my same questions to no_one817 also:

Why did you choose ATS as your forum and how did you hear about ATS?

and can you give us a simple phone number to AREA 51 to check out? None of these would divulge your identity.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 12:58 PM
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Are they benevolent or malevolent?

Is there a chance of attack at all?

Are they providing us with technology?

Have they mentioned anything crucial about humanity?

[edit on 5-2-2008 by dj05544]



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 12:59 PM
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So.... let me understand this correctly. The OP stated that he knew of this and that, but also that there were RUMOURS going around about other things? I find it hard to believe, really.

Isn't this an above top secret facility, where people have gotten killed for talking about what they know?

I just don't see people chit-chatting about rumours and such. I don't think people would risk getting their lives ruined, or taken altogether, just to spread rumours at lunchtime at Area 51. It's not a school cafeteria. It's a government compound where serious shizzy is going down that the government does not want discussed by anyone in any way, shape, or form. That's how real security breaches happen.

I have a hard time believing Bob Lazar for this same reason. He could've been offed by now, but he's still alive. There's three possibilities on why he's still alive.

1. he leaked everything to the public, and by then it was too late to off him because people would notice that, and it would be a red flag that somebody didn't want him talking, which would prove his story.

2. he was allowed to leak this information to the public in a controlled way.

3. He's lying for notoriety and profit.

THE THING IS... the black ops wings of the government are very sophisticated, and they could've found a way to off Bob Lazar by now. Although maybe they don't see him as threat anymore, now that he's not in the mainstream media anymore.

BUT since they are so sophisticated, how are they not tracking what the OP is doing on THEIR computers?

These are all assumptions. This guy could be true blue... but I doubt he'd take that big of a risk just to tell us the same recycled poopoo that we've all heard before.

I know aliens exist, but I don't know how much I trust these so called "Whistleblowers".

They just would not be stupid enough to use a public forum on the highly retraceable path called the internet to do such a thing.

This is a very dangerous subject. People here who really know about these things keep these things to themselves because they might disappear if not.

It's a real deal, but this guy is peddling tin cans for points here. Show's over, nothing to see here, as another poster said.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 01:01 PM
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Simple answer. To the best of my knowledge, any phone number that exists is a simple forwarding number to Nellis Air Force Base. You can't just call gl. You will simply call Nellis. And over the phone, you will never be able to be provided clearance to be patched into gl. I know that seems like a dodge type answer, but its the truth.

And as I said before, I am not worried about letting people know I am from the Las Vegas area. Specific locations in Las Vegas is what I will never let out.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 01:02 PM
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all his answers so far are very "wikipedial"


i dont put too much in speling on a web forum, dont think that has much relevance in this aspect, as i have shone



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 01:05 PM
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actually, it's wakenhut security firm. i make no claims of coming from there but know for a fact that is the security firm. So your a hoax too, eh????



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 01:06 PM
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Hope no one is looking to this guy for the truth. ATS.com is probably the last place you'll find it



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by indierockalien
So.... let me understand this correctly. The OP stated that he knew of this and that, but also that there were RUMOURS going around about other things? I find it hard to believe, really.

Isn't this an above top secret facility, where people have gotten killed for talking about what they know?

I just don't see people chit-chatting about rumours and such. I don't think people would risk getting their lives ruined, or taken altogether, just to spread rumours at lunchtime at Area 51. It's not a school cafeteria. It's a government compound where serious shizzy is going down that the government does not want discussed by anyone in any way, shape, or form. That's how real security breaches happen.

I have a hard time believing Bob Lazar for this same reason. He could've been offed by now, but he's still alive. There's three possibilities on why he's still alive.

1. he leaked everything to the public, and by then it was too late to off him because people would notice that, and it would be a red flag that somebody didn't want him talking, which would prove his story.

2. he was allowed to leak this information to the public in a controlled way.

3. He's lying for notoriety and profit.

THE THING IS... the black ops wings of the government are very sophisticated, and they could've found a way to off Bob Lazar by now. Although maybe they don't see him as threat anymore, now that he's not in the mainstream media anymore.

BUT since they are so sophisticated, how are they not tracking what the OP is doing on THEIR computers?

These are all assumptions. This guy could be true blue... but I doubt he'd take that big of a risk just to tell us the same recycled poopoo that we've all heard before.

I know aliens exist, but I don't know how much I trust these so called "Whistleblowers".

They just would not be stupid enough to use a public forum on the highly retraceable path called the internet to do such a thing.

This is a very dangerous subject. People here who really know about these things keep these things to themselves because they might disappear if not.

It's a real deal, but this guy is peddling tin cans for points here. Show's over, nothing to see here, as another poster said.



Well thought out. Your answer is number 2 as I stated in a previous post on this thread.

I paid for my computer at a computer pawn shop here, with cash. I would have gone pawn shop, but with the crime as it is in Las Vegas, it is the duty of a pawn broker to report all purchases and sales.

My computer was bought the day I first posted on this site. I took all the precautions I could.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 01:08 PM
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Not sure what you are referring to, but EE and G is the private security company and Lockheed is the employer to staff. Gl is protected by the federal government and thus any 'phone numbers' you want would be from nellis.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
If this were me and I were the genuine article, I'd be very hesitant as well. Until your post no real explanation of the request was given; just a demand. I'm actually surprised he came back at all given the tone of the initial request.
I'd say give it time and if he is a hoax, he will hang himself. Let some trust develop before making demands for personal information.

I totally agree with that sentiment.
If I were the OP and I was legit, I would have to think twice
and very hard before giving out tracking info. There has been
no mutual exchange of trust given on the part of ATS. Give the
man a break. Hoax or not ?? He will be found out soon enough.
I think in this case it is best to let ATS'ers make up their own
mind rather than trying to dislodge from hiding a true whistle
blower. Tis only my opinion



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by no_one817
reply to post by FremenBlueEyes
 


Not sure what you are referring to, but EE and G is the private security company and Lockheed is the employer to staff. Gl is protected by the federal government and thus any 'phone numbers' you want would be from nellis.


ummm....you mean EG & G. Please tell me you've done your homework on this.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 01:16 PM
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I'm leaving.

Reason 1. Bad grammar = hoax.

Why would such a trivial thing mean I am a hoaxster? I noticed that I had a few spelling mistakes and my sentence structure is different due to where I was born and raised.

Reason 2. Will be banned if I don't give personal information

I can't risk giving away my personal info. Even a small shred of evidence could have the government on my ass for a very long time which is a obviously a bad thing for a truth speaker. I also fail to see how giving away my location will prove me to not be a hoaxster.

Reason 3. Impatience

I have a life, I can't sit up all day answering questions. I thought it would be a good idea to leave the board for a while for a few questions to build up, but while I was away people thought that I was hoaxing.

I however will tell you my story of why I'm worried for the future of Earth.

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Summary: Currently A51 are experimenting on creating small points of immense gravity at two seperate places in the universe, this will have the effect of creating a tunnel and if one of these tunnels is placed near another place of immense gravity it will stay at the same point in time effectively creating a portal to another place in time. The danger comes from the fact that there is a danger that these portals can become instable and cause black holes.

How are these points/portals created?: An antiproton and a proton are collided near the speed of light to release all their energy and create a tiny rip in space time. Normally this rip would quickly dissolve but it can be held open by being surrounded by anti-grav devices to stop gravity from closing it up. The rip can then be stretched using magnets so someone can enter it. The problem is - how can we make another portal which will be connected to our first portal?

Connecting portals: During experiments at A51 we discovered that before these portals dissolved they vibrated at a certain unique frequency. If we could create 2 portals and make them vibrate at the same frequency it is theorised that these 2 portals will become "joined". I have no idea how that works because I am not a quantum physicist.

The danger: If these portals are stretched and the anti-grav devices fail it is theorised that the rip in spacetime will be too big to be disolved by gravity and will instead become a black hole.

Experimental device: The first experiments to create the device will start with the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) is opened in May this year. Yes, the LHC has been made with this theoretical device in mind. A full working device has been scheduled to be made for late 2011-2012.

Why should you believe me? That is a question. Ask yourself, deep down inside, are you looking at the truth? I hope that you see that I'm telling the truth.

Please pray to your Gods, Godesses, Spirit Guides and Saints to stop this device from being made. Even if your atheist you can help to by seeking the turth behind Area 51 and making its secret projects public knoledge. Maybe that will save planet Earth.



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