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Originally posted by azzllin
The problem i have with your story of the Triangle is this,
If it was destroyed how come it is being linked as the craft that recently buzzed Texas? and a lot of people who saw the craft in phoenix saying the craft in Texas is the same craft they saw?
I cant imagine the Military destroying something so important only to rebuild another one to do the same thing in Texas? because it seems the speaker broke there also. IMO
I will probably end up eating my words here, I dont believe this for a second it wouldn't matter where you where you would be noticed as soon as you started typing on the Internet.
Originally posted by yankeerose
What is that you know about our future that makes you fearful? What is the one most important thing you could tell us that could help us avoid such a future?
Have you ever heard of Project Camelot? They are very interested in whistle blower testimony, and will protect your identity.
Originally posted by neo2012
reply to post by azzllin
Good point. Millions of dollars spent, i,m guessing, but they burned all evidence of it because of a broken speaker.
But i suppose this story means that when people ask for evidence you just say they burned it and i dont care if you believe me or not thats not what i,m here for. BLAH BLAH
SORRY i said i wasnt going to burn you but hey this is a regular occurance on this forum now. People are going have to do more than provide stories.
Yes you may have evidence to prove what you say is real but already i,m thinking you dont.
Originally posted by abovetech
I'm having a hard time believing this explanation.
a. If this was a test craft for the purpose you are describing, why test it over phoenix??
To create a panic in Phoenix? Doesn't make sence at all.
b. If you really know what you know then you had to be in the closest compartement.
If you were , how the hell did you get out without a bullet or a mysterious death??
c. What can you tell on the triangles?
d. What can you tell on the US Spacefleet?
That's about it for now because i have a feeling i'm wasting my time.
Originally posted by 168.56.255.255
What security measures and devices are in place at Area 51 that we may not know about (i.e. Laser Fields, Infrared, mobile obervation technology etc)?
During your time there did you happen to see/hear anything relating
optical technology that can produce invisibilty?
Originally posted by spacevisitor
Hi zx4551,
I find this explanation a bit strange.
The idea that it was to be used to intimidate and distract the enemy during war, above their war zone, is in my opinion a bit naive I suppose, because the bigger the object is and the slower the speed, the easier it is to bring it down with some grenades or rockets or whatever.
And if that’s so, why then, came the Air force with that stupid flare explanation, while they good have done it with the info you give us here?
But the witnesses told, that it was a massive craft, making no sound at all and had a very slow speed.
To propel such an enormous craft with the slow speed it had, you must use some very special soundless propulsion system, if not an anti gravity system, can you explain that a bit to me.
[edit on 4/2/08 by spacevisitor]
Originally posted by JDN24
Probably a Hoax. I bet he's doing this for the ATS points.....
Lame - Stop Wasting our time
Originally posted by gotrox
I've known several ex-employees from TTR and Dreamland, both government and contractors, and to a man, they are very reserved and quiet about their former jobs.
The question is what to ask.
What is your general area of expertice---I mean, it would hardly do to ask a security guard advanced technical questions, or a radar operator about aliens underground, or a test pilot questions about the scope of security methods and locations of guards and electronic countermeasures.
So I'll just jump in blindly.
What are the technical specifications of these huge triangles, power source, purpose etc.
You may have been privvy to the torching of one of them, but I have seen a couple of these monsters over the last few years, so they are not all de-commisioned.
Originally posted by neo2012
Glad that you replied and answered alot of the questions asked.
Are the aircraft only tested at area 51?
What was your job?
How big is the base underground?
Does S-4 exist.?
Where are they stored?
Just a few questions.
Originally posted by Unit541
So basically you're saying the project was canned because the speaker failed. Most likely the simplest component of the entire project... lol. I'm more gullible than most here, but that's just ridiculous. I can just see a bunch of scientists and engineers running around scratching their heads... "Someone call Car-Toys and ask 'em about these two wires...".
Originally posted by Kidachi
What else do know about the "aliens"
and the whole Reptile thing.....Have you heard of David Icke?
Have you seen the Auroa (sp?)?
Iam happy you spoke up
Originally posted by interestedalways
I just want to know exactly what you mean by this statement in your opening post.
Right now I am fearing for the safety of the future of the world
[edit on 4-2-2008 by interestedalways]
Originally posted by EKron
Unless this guy can validate and confirm his credentials, in my opinion, it's all just entertaining conjecture (and part of the fluff you have to wade through around here to find a grain of something that might be true).
Trust me, if I wanted to "get the truth out" but fear retribution or possible legal actions for violating sworn non-disclosure agreements, I wouldn't be dense enough utilize a public forum such as this one as my venue.
Just Googled the username - first two hits point to this thread. He's famous already! zx4551, the Secret Service, NSA, FBI, CIA, or Dept. of Homeland Security should be knocking on your door sometime soon.
[edit on 4-2-2008 by EKron]
Originally posted by Michelle129
Originally posted by Unit541
So basically you're saying the project was canned because the speaker failed. Most likely the simplest component of the entire project... lol. I'm more gullible than most here, but that's just ridiculous....
I was thinking the same thing. I am admittedly very ignorant in this field, and debated with myself for a while before deciding to post a few questions. There are many extremely intelligent people on this board that i'm sure will come up with better ones, but sometimes you have to jump in with both feet and hope you don't make an a** of yourself
Again, I know nothing of military and/or aircraft building (not sure if those are even the right terms), but I'd have to imagine that this project had to cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. And to say they scrapped the entire craft and burned it over something so trivial seems a bit shady to me.
After only one test run they deemed the entire craft/project as unreliable? Wouldn't any organization normally have several if not hundreds of test runs tweaking as they went along before totally giving up? Could they not just replace the speaker?
Also, you said:
The material used to build Falcon was very, very durable to blunt force, one of the only things that could destroy it was heat. It was proven to be unreliable because the speaker kept failing due to unknown reasons. Falcon was also very vulnreble to missile attacks, the heat from the missiles would have destroyed it easily.
Again, one would think the military would have done some sort of testing on the materials it was considering for such a large and expensive project. To build an entire aircraft out of material that is vulnerable to heat and missiles seems absurd! Did they not consider this prior to actually building the craft?
The last thing that seems a tad shady to me is when you said:
It was proved by some mental health professionals. Ultrasonic sounds can sometimes make peoples think that there is an invisible "presence" and a massive UFO can make people scared. Also, the stress of the battlefield would add to all this
and:
The craft wouldn't have been too dangerous to people driving. It was just designed to give the edge in battle, not enough to cause people to steer off the road full speed like lunatics
LMAO...ok, so it would freak out people with MILITARY TRAINING, but, to us 'regular folk' it would do nothing at all. If a humungous spacecraft looking vehicle with bright lights and 160 db loudspeaker flew over top of my car...I'd be in the ditch without a doubt.
I understand that it would be difficult to obtain pictures or paperwork from Area 51, and I wouldn't expect anyone to come by those easily as proof. But, if you at least make the stories sound a bit more plausible, I might be very interested.
Michelle
Originally posted by Jeff Riff
reply to post by Michelle129
I am sure the project would have actually costs hundreds of millions of dollars
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by zx4551
Originally posted by intrepid
As a staff member I will be discrete, can you u2u me(private messages, it's in your member center, up in the tool bar) your approximate location?
I'll consider it.
I suggest you consider it strongly in the not too distant future. Hoaxes are not looked kindly on here and I can vouch for the authenticity of certain aspects of this if you're forthcoming.
Obfuscation is NOT the way to go though.
Originally posted by Tuning Spork
Originally posted by zx4551
The interior of ground-level facilities was dissapointingly like any other offices, they didn't keep any secret documents in these facilities either, they were kept underground.
I was looking for something more specific such as the decor and layout of the largest mess hall. What color is the water tower? Thanks!
What would giving you my location do? It will just put me at risk. Please elaborate further
Originally posted by Riposte
He's lying.
Dark matter is what they use for anti-gravity? Haha! Dark matter doesn't exist.
Also, he'll "consider" private messaging a mod his location? No, pal, it's not a choice you make. You either send him your location or you get banned.
Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by zx4551
Intrepid requested the U2U so we (the staff) can work to ensure our members that you are who you say you are. Please respond to him. This will be the last time you are asked.
Thank you,
Crakeur
ATS Super Moderator
Originally posted by zx4551
David Icke is a complete nutter. Nuff' said
Originally posted by MountainStar
I think the Mods should know OP's location and IP address. If he's going to make outrageous claims he should be able to back them up! Again I ask zx4551 what do you know about a surname of Fay or could be spelled Faye? Personally, I don't think zx4551 will return to this thread.