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Originally posted by OBE1
...The Kent State incident was a horse of a different color imo. It was abetted by a pervasive, harsh, anti-activist mindset that emanated from the Nixon Whitehouse. It involved a mob of [threatening] civilians, and poorly trained national guardsmen. Fear, inexperience, bad command, and political intolerance played a significant role in a tragic situation. ...
Originally posted by BlueRaja
I guarantee you, that the military would not be shooting anybody without question, under the first scenario.
Originally posted by Griff
Originally posted by BlueRaja
I guarantee you, that the military would not be shooting anybody without question, under the first scenario.
Ask the 4 people dead in Ohio what they think about your garantee. I'd bet it's meaningless to them.
Originally posted by BlueRaja
In any event, you're not gonna have a statistically significant amount of troops and leaders agreeing to kill on command without any sort of justification other than "we did as we were told."
Originally posted by BlueRaja
Even after 9/11, which I think can be agreed on as being a significant event, you didn't see the Army rolling through and rounding up folks/shooting people.
Originally posted by Griff
Originally posted by BlueRaja
In any event, you're not gonna have a statistically significant amount of troops and leaders agreeing to kill on command without any sort of justification other than "we did as we were told."
Really? That was the main excuse heard at the Nuremberg trials.
Originally posted by Griff
Originally posted by BlueRaja
Even after 9/11, which I think can be agreed on as being a significant event, you didn't see the Army rolling through and rounding up folks/shooting people.
Here in DC there was a humvee with a soldier with an automatic on nearly every corner for awhile. It was very intimidating.
Originally posted by BlueRaja
So you're saying the US troops have an ideology akin to Nazis? You have established no precedence to make such a spurious remark.
Originally posted by deltaboy
And what exactly happened to all those soldiers and Humvees in D.C.?
Originally posted by BlueRaja
What do you think their security posture should have been after a terror attack? Business as usual? If you felt intimidated, that sounds more like a personal problem, than being in imminent danger.
Originally posted by deltaboy
No its back to "normal".
Originally posted by deltaboy
No I didn't accuse you of lying, I never even remotely said that. I ask what happened afterwards with all those soldiers and military vehicles in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. Was there any martial law? No its back to "normal".
Originally posted by ralph nader
reply to post by BlueRaja
man your a tool ,you need to wake up and open your eyes...i hope they shoot you first.....