since the military is so paranoid about hackers
in their system then why don't they just unplug ??

Have 2 separate internets. one for common use
and one strictly for the military.

That should keep the normal spooks out
but leave us with our free speech intact

The internet is THE LAST AREA OF FREE SPEECH WE HAVE. No FCC, no censorship, no protest zones. If they take it away, what do we have left?

Originally posted by Extralien

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective


I am not going to be put into a prison or held against my will just because some fascist ideals decide that my voice is too dissident for their liking.

Bold statement given you wouldn't be the first or last to have suffered that very fate, or worse. Are you saying you don't believe it could happen or that you refuse to let it happen?

on the topic of military and/or government entities infiltrating various portions of the internet, i present to you a U2U i received which I thought was a bit odd, considering i had never spoken with this individual person, nor had i seen any of their posts, and their account seemed pretty new. this is what it said:

Ketzer22's U2U
from: (classified)
sent: 1/28/2008 at 04:43 PM

I wanted to ask you if you know of any militias out there that would step up to over throw the government if things get bad

Heheheh.

Naturally, my reply was of a very vague nature, speaking on the topic but not saying that I knew of any militias. I simply said that without the support of the U.S. military, the U.S. people could not over throw the government by themselves with simple rifles and low grade explosives. Hunters and miners versus soldiers and engineers? Hmm..

[edit on 2/3/2008 by runetang]

Originally posted by SimonSays
Have 2 separate internets. one for common use
and one strictly for the military.

That would be quite the endeavor. The Internet is like the Interstate Highway System in that it was designed to serve a military purpose. Convenient civilian use is just a nice perk. So technically they could say we should build our own network and give them back theirs.

Why can't we all just get along?

I'll tell you what: it begins with the control of the net & it ends with Ms WW the 3rd.

TAKE CARE U.S Citizens.Plus, like someone said, the u.s, your country, control the net so you better do something AGAINST this and the sooner the better for all of us (yes, you all+me).

The truth is people in "high places" or with some little power or good citizens read the news on the net, stuffs other than "brought to you by cnn" and the like.Truth is they get multiple sources of informations, they think twice they eventually get a piece of the real deal of the story,they discuss it.At the end of the day their behavior at their job, their occupations can be "unexpected".This is what the Pentagon don't like: "surprises", No control.
"Damn this guy voted no for this law, how come? What happened?What are we gonna do?"

I believe this more than everything especially nowadays.

Not to mention that if this law somehow is voted , ats dot com will be a desert.
I pretty well see things like: "you cannot enter this site, u.s citizens restricted".
No kidding!

Do something powerful & soon before it's too late.



[edit on 3-2-2008 by themaster1]

The Pentagon should be dealt with as an enemy weapons system.

I'm beginning to get the impression that the Pentagon wants to go to war against the American people so they can make even larger profits then they are already securing. They already are getting into the street cameras and prisons. So the next step appears to be targeting people that are not for war on the Internet. Terrorism maybe nothing more than a boogeyman excuse the same as the spooky "drugs". When one uncovers all of this subterfuge you have to start explaining the motive and the motive appears to be more money and of course god like control over people's minds. They already have black ops doing all kinds of disinfo and running newsrooms in all the major outlets, why would they need to bother with people that voice dissent? Maybe they are so paranoid that the general public maybe onto their game that they think we could actually influence the public enough to ruin the "gravy train".

Endless war maybe nothing more than endless stress, watch for the standard of living to actually decrease as we go further into a police like state, then of course people will really have to wonder how they could have been so easily fooled into making their lives more complicated. Maybe the Gov just wants us all to be paranoid, well they will have to try harder I suppose. I doubt people will run and hide under the covers, in fact they will likely only get more PO and then we will have social problems again in this society. When social problems return so do budgets even if Iraq and other adventures end, then they can use liberals like MCcain or HIllary or Obama to clamp down on some namless "extreme right wing" fanatic and claim they need to censor the net to protect us from the next McVeigh. Fraudulent to the core, just another big mouth loud taking con job. They might as well declare war on the Constitution and put a fence up around the whole country and annoouce we are all under arrest, at least the couch potatoes would wake up, but as long as only ATS people are talking about this they can continue the little cat and mouse game claiming some "imaginary" hacker meltdown on the horizon, kind of sounds like a cable getting chopped in the ocean might have been one of the little simulation exercises that went live. Who knows?

Well if they are approaching the web like Iraqs "weapons" system, I don't think we have anything to fear.

don't worry I downloaded a backup copy
of the internet if they erase or lock up
part of it I'll just restore it.

I am wondering though, are they going to come down on the whole world or only on their citizens. But I guess if they are really serious about all this then we can kiss our little CT sites goodbye. These Americans are good at what they do, being evil and destructive and bad that is. Uncle Sam is taking away our toys I guess. As they say the end of the world as we know it is near, one way or another

Don't have alot of time before work but look into this. The internet was CREATED with disinfo in mind. Don't you think the military could have made the internet for ONLY the military? You think in the beginning they had to let civilians use it if they didn't want to? I was only a matter of time before someone did it they figure might as well have your hand in it from day one. I'm going to look for the name of the Book I read this in when I get to work.

Have a great day truth seekers.

is thie explaining the broken cables for the Middle East Internet?