Does God Have A Split Personality, Or Is There More Than One Supreme Being?, page 7
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reply posted on 5-2-2008 @ 06:29 PM by Devino
Originally posted by Im a Marty
Very well said Devino!

Thank you BTW, I was late finishing up my second reply and didn't get a chance to add thnx...

Originally posted by OhZone
The bible is not even a "Jewish" account.
It has it roots in Egypt and pre-diluvian Ireland/British Isles/Scandanavia (Atlantis)
In ancient times Off-worlders came to this planet. They displayed their technology. To the Natives this was Magic. Therefore these people were regarded as Gods.

Your points seem to pertain to knowledge from ancient cuneiform tablets made by the Sumerian's in Mesopotamia around 3000 BCE. The "off-worlders" were called the Annunaki by the people of Sumer which means, "those from Heaven to Earth came" and it appears that the human-Annunaki relationship predates the deluge. There are a handful of people in the world that can translate cuneiform and in the 1850's biblical scholars were elated to hear translated stories that seemed to come right out of the bible; like Adam and Eve, the flood and it's survivors and the tower of Babel. This is direct corroboration of these biblical stories but from it's original form, the preserved tables, and not translated over time. It is said that the stories in the bible were told to the Jewish people by the Sumerian's and if this is so then they did a remarkable job of preserving them. The problem began when more of the tablets were translated but this begins a complicated topic of it's own. To learn more look up Zecharia Sitchin for he is one of the few translators alive today and he has written extensively about this.

Originally posted by sizzle
...after studying other manuscripts I am beginning to wonder about other possibilties.

I think the most important thing to always keep in mind is to work towards understanding. Rene Descartes's meditations and a few e-books written by Roy Masters about the philosophy of thought have taught me to understand the difference between whats true and false and I hold one undeniable truth for myself, Cogito Ergo Sum.
I have discovered some very disturbing things and to say it shakes the foundation of my religion is an understatement. How can anyone believe anything without a true understanding and to be able to discern the difference between truth and fallacy? The only thing worse then being deceived is trading one deception for another.

Mainstream science says human knowledge is a linear progression but that makes no sence given the myriad of evidence found all over the world. A quote from OhZone's coneheads link,
"According to the orthodox anthropology, this skull simply does not exist, because it cannot be...The only accepted human types entering the continent are of the modern anatomy. There are some other sources that place all types of human genus in both Americas at much earlier dates based on numerous anomalous finds, but the academe sticks to its preconceived notions, no matter what. It's safer."
This type of 'a priori' approach is replete throughout academia and it has no place in our academics or science. Take a close look at the words we use and see if you really understand their meaning, like Testament-this does not mean word of God nor false stories to deceive man, or what is the purpose for fear and hatred? Is blame a good and useful thing? We could blame God for all of our problems and suffering but that does no good. Perhaps we could blame Satan or some other ill conceived deity or maybe blame each other, at least that way would could exact revenge and add to the problem. Or my favorite ambiguous term lately, anti-war protester. I am still trying to understand what exactly that means.


reply posted on 6-2-2008 @ 03:28 AM by sizzle
Hi everyone!
I wanted to share a dream i had with you folks. It prompted me to U2U a fellow ATS member. Out of respect to this member, I will not post his/her name until I receive permission. But I will paste the PM that I sent, with the identity excluded. I would really like any input that any of you could give me on this. Let me say this in advance; I do not know this member, but I have seen the name in various threads.

Hi!
You and I don't know each other, other than slight brushes in the same topic threads, but I felt compelled to write to you because of a dream I had tonight. It was so disturbing, that it woke me up. Not disturbing in an alarming way, but it was serious information that was given to me, and I was struggling to hang on to it, and I was in such deep sorrow, that I was losing it the more awake, I became.
You may have noticed that I have been doing some serious research into the origins of mankind and the study of ancient texts. Before this mission began, I was an unswerving, unquestioning, believer in the Bible, as it stands. I still believe in a lot of the concepts, but I believe that there is a lot more to it.
I also believe that there are other races of beings, involved.

Now, Back to the dream, or vision, or whatever it was. It was something like the revealing of Genesis in the true form. It began with , 'On the first day...' But I forgot what was revealed there. But then it was suggested that it was not a workable situation because there was such chaos. So then, 'TIME' had to be created to help solve it. That's when I awoke because I was struggling so hard to understand.
I was literally weeping because I was losing the memory of what had been revealed, and I awoke before it was finished. Then an inner voice said to contact, '*********' That you could be of much help.

Is this true? Do you know something? Or is this just some weird dream that I just need to forget and get over? I apologize if I am intruding. Thank you for your time.


Does any of this make any kind of sense to any of you. I know that it is not much to go on, but it's the best I can do, unless more of the dream returns.

I had a revelation of sorts before I went to sleep, but it is going to require some research for dates to back it up. I will post it, when I get it all together. It may come as a shock to some of you, and to some of you who are already, well-informed; you will probably, just say, "Exactly!"



reply posted on 6-2-2008 @ 09:54 PM by sizzle
reply to post by ViewFromTheStars



That's some very good philosophy indeed. Someone suggested a book to me by Wm. Bramley. I haven't been able to buy it yet, but I have been reading excerpts from it. It has some very great concepts as well. Maybe someday we will all get at the whole truth.


reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 12:29 AM by sizzle
reply to post by Devino



Thank you very much for that, I will read them. Some of what you say has a very familiar ring to it. I hope that after I do all this studying, I'll remember which truth I read where.



reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 02:54 AM by cajones
If God "creates" rather than "created" man in his image, then a lot of things make a lot more sense, would anyone agree? (and I use "his" merely out of convenience.)
I think the problem is... either people consider God something like a man with super powers, or put together a bunch of metaphors (that may or may not make sense)...
The very nature of the title "supreme being" prevents there from being more than one. The Hebrew scriptures acknowledge the existence of other gods--but they are just beings, maybe more advanced than humans, doesn't really matter. Then we have YHWH, who is apparently supposed to represent the ultimate source of everything. (If we bring in the new testament, the fact that Jesus declares that no one has seen or heard the father would make it pretty clear that it's not the father in the OT...).
The problem with a supreme being is... at first glance, such a being is far from reflected in the old testament! The NT makes a lot of scripture clearer, but then we have questions of what's translated right, what books were left out, and all of that annoying stuff. For instance: has anyone paid attention to the context of the "Lucifer" verse? Reading the whole chapter might make it clear that "Lucifer" and "Satan" are not one and the same.
While we're at it: man's shortcomings are not flaws in God's design, if God is the supreme source of everything, and this creator had something specific in mind for the creation. And even if he didn't... he knew how it would turn out--to suggest otherwise would mean we aren't talking about a supreme being. So all of the crap that's gone down throughout time, and all of the suffering and joy we experience daily... God had to have planned for all of it!
Why? I don't know. Though the fact that the tree of the forbidden fruit, according to Genesis, contained both good and evil, might be a clue.


Since there is experience, there is a source; since there is cause and effect, there is always something greater. Somewhere in that mess, we have the ultimate source--that is infallible. God is not a creature... so saying God doesn't exist forces me to ask: define the God that you don't believe to exist?


reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 03:54 AM by OptionToChoose
Sizzle, I've been in deep discussion with andre18 on page 3 of his thread where he posed the question: are we technology? . . . Particularly focused on in this exchange was an apparent artificiality to reality pondering. I submit my responses on that page in place of retyping that information again, at least as my entry into this discussion.

Thought: Is the same God responsible for butterflies and bright sunny days as hurricanes, tornadoes, and meteorites? . . .


reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 11:36 AM by Ameneter
reply to post by cajones


The problem with the concept of "GOD" as the SUPREME BEING, is that there are basically two opposing concepts being banded about which creates a lot of confusion and contradictions. There is the ANTHROPOMORPHIC God and there is God as the CREATIVE FORCE.
The Anthropomorphic God is created in the image of man, not vice versa. This God has the characteristics of man, but is Omnipotent and Moral. Artists have produced their ideas of his likeness. He judges and measures our shortcomings and righteousness. Atheists do not believe in this God because they can't see where he fits into the Universe.
On the other hand, most scientists would tend to accept GOD AS THE CREATIVE FORCE. This God has no personality, no morality, no regard for human pleasure or suffering. He/It underlies NATURE. NATURE can be benevolent or malevonent. It doesn't consider Man's feelings. There is happines, sadness, birth, death and disease. It is not inherently contradictory such as the ANTHROPOMORPHIC version. It exists the same way we exist. It just IS, and there is nothing to do about it. For Man to coexist with this CREATIVE FORCE, he must understand the LAWS OF NATURE, and He must invent those Social Systems that will preserve his life in the face of unfeeling and indifferent NATURE. REASON becomes his means of Survival, whereas with the ANTHROPOMORPHIC GOD, FAITH replaces REASON as the means to survive, because its the AFTERLIFE thats important to the adherents of this type of God. FAITH or REASON, select your weapon and defend your God!!


reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 01:26 PM by NewWorldOver


If God has a split personality, it is because he is experiencing himself in an infinite number of ways through infinite number of life forms. We are conscious lifeforms and have the chance to examine our own consciousness, but in this modern age, we are especially prone to being distracted or even prevented by the external world.

So, we have this idea of God as being separate, or just another 'deity', at least this is the understanding of the atheist. But the true 'God' force is the manifestation of all realities on all dimensions. What else can it be? It's everything.
We can obsess over the dressings of the material world or we can acknowledge the source.

[edit on 7-2-2008 by NewWorldOver]
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