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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 05:01 PM by Malankhkare
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Genesis 1:26 OUR image therefore multiple gods. Luke 14:26 Hate your mother father sisters and brothers, Matthew 10:34/36 Came not for peace
but with a sword - therefore to make war. Whole Bible is plagiarised from Egypt, and IOSA was the original name for the Ever Coming Son, and still
is - See "Read Many Versions of Bible on line" and look for Mark 8:33 in Gaelic. Celts knew it from Egyptian ancestors who invaded and conquered
Ireland in the bronze age. Plenty of proof now. Refer "Bible Origins in Egypt" on line, and latest book by Ian Vayro "Tears From Heaven" - see
Joshua Books on line. Just about all patriarchs have been identified as Egyptian Kings, especially Solomon and David. One King was Actually named
YKB - Jacob. Mistransliterated by religious fanatics into Jacobaam, which is entirely wrong. Final glyphs are determinatives not letters - Arm
meaning Djoser (Joshuah) and Sacred, and Three Water Ripples meaning Water, thus Sacred Water or Baptiser. Examination of Hebrew text Genesis 4:8
reveals true identity of Cain and Abel - HBL and QYN - Kings HEBER followed by KHYAN .. no letter L in Egyptian. Khyan also named as Yannis or
Yani , i.e. JOHN by Manetho, clearly author of Maxims of Ani.
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 05:08 PM by observe50
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Givenmay,
Don't be confused the best I can tell you is go with what your heart and soul feels, follow this and you will follow the destiny that was to be
yours.
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 05:11 PM by Malankhkare
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Further proof that God was seen as more than one is in the name YAHWEH which can be found in so many Egyptian Temples and tombs. Yah or Iah was the
Moon God, and letter W was the Egyptian plural letter like our 'S'. So has to be at least double. Yah is also shown as Yah Yah as a God Name
for several kings, and again would be pronounced as plural YahWeh. King Twt's golden shrine has a cartouche which clearly names him GOD OF ALL
HEPREW (Creations). HPR glyph is a SCARAB Beetle, and St.Ambrose Bishop of Milan referred to Jesus many times as The Good SCARABaeus. Four
scenes showing the Annunciation Conception Birth and Adoration of the holy child are on a wall in Solomon's temple in Luxor. Adoration clearly
shows THREE wise men kneeling - this number is not in the bible. Painting of Holy Trinity on wall of young King David's (TWT) tomb. Furthermore
his full name was YMN TWT ANKH which has become YMN EL EK in the Kebra Nagast, which also confirms that he was King David and that his mother was
Queen ETIYE the favourite wife of Ymnhtp III (Salim Ymn - Solomon). People still pray to the Egyptian God YMN - AMEN to this very day.
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 05:22 PM by John, Sartell, MN, USA
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There is a simple explanation for the variations and evolution of "GOD's" behavior: the evolution of man's consiousness and social behavior and
understanding of "justice" and "right or wrong".
The Old Testament "GOD"is just an old fashioned egotistical, petty, jealous, vengefull Midle Eastren despot of the era enlarged to super human
powers.
What religious leaders teach is a function and reflection of what their contemporary society thinks about right or wrong, just or unjust, virtue or
vice.
Example (Roman Catholic Church- Christian): Origional Sin is regarded as the cause of all of our problems, diseases, defects, aging and death and why
water won't flow up hill of its own accoard. (Okay, I exadurated on that about water, but not much. Water that freely ran up hill of its own acoard
would leave us all in danger of drownding without warning.) We are told that because of "The Sin of Adam" we are doomed to sickness and death and
must be Baptised.
Well, I call myself a "Roaming Catholic" (pun on my Roman Catholic upbringing) because I suspect that there is something wrong with this Theology in
light of the R.C.Church's statement: "GOD is all just." and the fact that by the 1780's when the American Constitution was written it was well
understood by well educated thoughtfull mortals (The Founding Fathers) that "Working A Corruption of The Blood" was inheriently unjust. They banned
"Corruption of The Blood" punishments. Now this would not have occoured to a Midevil ruler, scholar or theologian, and the "Origional Sin"
theology was penned in that era. (As a matter of record I accept that "Origional Sin" exists and acts more like failure to educate or failure to
vaccinate. I hope that the Pope's theologians will not find this too heretical.)
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 05:40 PM by jimbo999
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reply to post by T0by
Hmmm...the most convincing and simple explanation is that there are no 'Supreme Beings'. Hence all the disparity, confusion and contradictions in
the biblical descriptions.
J.
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 06:18 PM by sizzle
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Hi everyone,
Just logged on to read all these interesting and thought provoking concepts. I see I have some more reading to do, as some of you were kind enough to
offer suggestions for further study.
Thank you all for discussing this so civilly.
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 07:06 PM by Givenmay
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reply to post by observe50
Thankx
I try and follow my instincts!
My heart and soul does'nt have much of a life to work with them.
My beliefs are changing, to where they sound unbelievable.
I just wish that I knew what was true!
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 07:07 PM by ReelView
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The true Supreme Being is all merciful. The "God" of the bible is a lesser entity known as the "Devil" or even a lower "god" such as shiva,
kali, etc.. The later "Gods/Devils" exist only in the regions of matter. The worlds of matter being the opposite of the pure spiritual the
tendencies reflect imperfection as outward and downward desires. This is the mechanism for the elimination of those impurities (original sins). Once
fully exhausted (over many incarnations) the spirits will return and can be fully conscious in the purely spiritual worlds. If the imperfects where
not real and their exhaustion not requiring the flaws to be pushed out from the inside and "matter" not in existence then the spirits that are here
would have to remain unconscious as they are the residue of the purely spiritual creations and an insignificant amount of the pure creation.
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 07:44 PM by metatronscube
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From my personal research, I can lend a few of my own insights to the discussion by defining a few races names in the Bible.
Genesis 6
1 When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful,
and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal ; his days will be a
hundred and twenty years."
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them.
They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
What this is saying is the "Sons of God" (Angels whom soon became the Fallen Angels) decided to leave their posts in Heaven and mate with humans
. Their offspring were called the Nephilim and they were great in size and were also called Titans in Greek mythology. The Fallen Angels lived among
man for quite a long time and corrupted mankind. We learn this from the book of Enoch
Enoch 7
10Then they took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they began to approach, and with whom they cohabited; teaching them sorcery, incantations, and
the dividing of roots and trees.
11And the women conceiving brought forth giants, (7)
(7) The Greek texts vary considerably from the Ethiopic text here. One Greek manuscript adds to this section, "And they [the women] bore to them [the
Watchers] three races–first, the great giants. The giants brought forth [some say "slew"] the Naphelim, and the Naphelim brought forth [or
"slew"] the Elioud. And they existed, increasing in power according to their greatness." See the account in the Book of Jubilees.
12Whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;
13When they turned themselves against men, in order to devour them;
14And began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another, (8) and to drink their blood.
(8) Their flesh one after another. Or, "one another’s flesh." R.H. Charles notes that this phrase may refer to the destruction of one class of
giants by another (Charles, p. 65).
15Then the earth reproved the unrighteous.
Thus, we find out the reason God became angry enough to destroy the world with the Flood. As you've probably figured out. Greek mythology tells a
very detailed account of the events that transpired during this time. The Greek gods were the fallen that lived among man and also the gods referenced
in the Sumerian texts. Even in the Sumerian texts it mentions the gods crying out that their children were destroyed by the flood.
Now, I'm not sure exactly how some of the Nephilim survived, but I believe the Emerald Tablets of Thoth covers this. The Annukai are actually
described in the Bible, check this out:
Numbers 13:33
33 We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to
them."
Deuteronomy 1:28
28 Where can we go? Our brothers have made us lose heart. They say, 'The people are stronger and taller than we are; the cities are large, with walls
up to the sky. We even saw the Anakites there.' "
That's just some background based on theories I'm working on. Hope it helps!!
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 08:03 PM by sizzle
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Thank you so much for your input, metatronscube.
The texts that you mention, are among some of the ones that I have been studying. It seems that since I have started this venture, my head is spinning
with the thoughts of, "So many texts, so little time!" Lol!
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 08:22 PM by undo
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Originally posted by sizzle
Plz understand that my beliefs lie with the loving Deity. Jesus' Father. But the website does seem to have a point. And God does seem to be aware
that there are other gods, or He would not have said, not to have other gods before Him.
Hello. Here's a little paper on the Divine Council mentioned in the bible:
users.aristotle.net...
and another:
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 08:22 PM by metatronscube
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I think it's extremely interesting how the Sumerian texts, the Bible, Book of Enoch, Emerald Tablets of Thoth, Greek mythology.....etc.
It's all telling the same story! Once we interconnect everything, we FINALLY understand the one coherent story about our creation and origins and
about God and his personality.
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 08:26 PM by undo
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Originally posted by metatronscube
reply to post by sizzle
I think it's extremely interesting how the Sumerian texts, the Bible, Book of Enoch, Emerald Tablets of Thoth, Greek mythology.....etc.
It's all telling the same story! Once we interconnect everything, we FINALLY understand the one coherent story about our creation and origins and
about God and his personality.
Yep it sure the heck is. Even Norse mythology. South and Central American mythology. I'm beginning to think whoever called this stuff mythology
was perpetuating the biggest conspiracy in human history.
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 08:27 PM by metatronscube
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Exactly.
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 09:27 PM by Ameneter
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So God was a diciplinarian when he ordered the extermination of the CANAANITES, the AMONITES, the AMALEKITES, the PHILISTINES, after failing to
exterminate MANKIND with the FLOOD? DISCIPLINARIAN OR MURDERER?!! And this is just a small sample of his MURDEROUS RAMPAGE!!
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 10:26 PM by doctorex
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People who think God has a split personality or is more than one simply don't understand what God is. He is the Father. Did your father set you rules
when you were a child like any decent father should. Did your father punish you when you failed to obey those rules. Did he do it because he was
bloodthirsty hate-filled brute, or because he loved you, and knew it would be in your best interest in the long run. Fathers punish their children,
that doesn't mean they don't love them, nor does it mean they have a split personality, or there is more that one of them, they are most certainly
the one person, and they do love their children, well, any good father does anyway.
As for the so-called contradictions in the Bible, there are none. Anybody who thinks there is simply doesn't understand what is even being said. Take
hell, for instance, most are completely unaware that the english word hell is translated from many words in the greek (new testament) and hebrew (old
testament). Hell is tranlsated from words such as sheol, hades, which mean literally the grave, where your body returns to dust when you die, just as
Adam did, just as the patriarch David tomb and decomposed body was with the jews in the book of acts (Acts 2:29), and he has not ascended to heaven
when he died (Acts 2:34), just as most Christian believe they do when they die. This a flat out lie. The Bible over and over again talks about
returning to dust to be resurrected at the return of Christ, but most would rather follow the traditions of men that the scriptures, just as Jesus
warned about doing.
Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
Hell as most people see it is nothing more than a lie of the Catholic church, carried on even by the so-called reformation, which kept most of their
doctorine from the other lies of the catholic church, such as sunday worship, Christmas, and Good friday, and Easter sunday,
which has absolutely no backing in scripture, though most mainstream Chirstians don't like to hear that they are simply follwing the traditions of
pagan Rome and the catholic church. This is what causes the confusion and the so-called "contradictions", the lies that people believe that are not
actually taught in the Bible, such as suffering for eternity in "hell". Sure there is a lake of fire (gehenna) at the judgement, but those thrown in
a completely destroyed, an no body is currently in it burning in pain.
Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and
body in hell (gehenna).
The Bible teaches that men can only recieve eternal life through following Christ, yet those who claim to be following those teaching claim that
sinners also gain eternal life in "hell". How can somebody who does not recieve Christ recieve eternal life?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Read that again, THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH. That is the eternal punishment, not eternal punishing.
Please, anybody who claims to be a Christian, study you Bible and follw it, not the lies and perversion the world has foistered upon it by people who
twist scriptures to make you whorship on sunday (sun worship=baal worship), make you repeat vain repetitions in prayer (hail mary etc read Matthew
6:7) take religious titles for them selves such as Pope (father), or even the actually title father itself...
MATTHEW 23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
90% of mainstream Christianity is a complete lie.
www.the-end.com...
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 10:46 PM by Jovi1
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I have thought about this many times and to be honest the way i veiw it is that the God of the earlier works was just a new parent who didnt really
know quite what to do with us. And that just like many new parents was just frustrated. As time went on he learned to relax alittle bit and to let us
learn to walk on our own. To me the journey of man is meant to be learning how to be like God with all the same abilities and attributes.
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 10:51 PM by KanehBosm
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Originally posted by metatronscube
I think it's extremely interesting how the Sumerian texts, the Bible, Book of Enoch, Emerald Tablets of Thoth, Greek mythology.....etc.
It's all telling the same story! Once we interconnect everything, we FINALLY understand the one coherent story about our creation and origins and
about God and his personality.
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BINGO!!!
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 11:26 PM by NuclearPaul
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IMHO, it is because this world has a history of evil entities that have proclaimed to be God, and have lead people astray. People believe them because
they perform "miracles".
The bottom line is, anything that tries to control you by installing fear into you is most likely evil.
reply to post by KanehBosm
Yes, agreed also. It's either a bad case of Chinese whispers or someone is Dividing and Conquering.
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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 11:34 PM by AshleyD
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Originally posted by Ameneter
reply to post by AshleyD
So God was a diciplinarian when he ordered the extermination of the CANAANITES, the AMONITES, the AMALEKITES, the PHILISTINES, after failing to
exterminate MANKIND with the FLOOD? DISCIPLINARIAN OR MURDERER?!! And this is just a small sample of his MURDEROUS RAMPAGE!!
And what were those people doing? Those living in antediluvian times were described as every inclination of their thoughts were continually evil and
that their wickedness was had reached its limit. We could assume this means absolute depravity due to what we are told. We are also told the people
were given a 120 year warning before the flood. If they did not change their ways, then they would face judgment. It was not a matter of it happening
without warning.
The tribes that were at war with the Hebrews and who were eventually destroyed were described as kidnapping Jews for slavery, raping Jewish women,
constantly invading the Jewish camps, engaging in human (including child) sacrifice, eating their own children for rituals, and engaging in other acts
of cannibalism. They were not happy little families minding their own business. They were savages who were at war with the Jews. We are told the Jews
attempted to make peace treaties with the foreign tribes but that they kept attacking them.
See? Or are you the type that would give a convicted serial killer a dozen long stemmed roses and send them to your grandmother's house?
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