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Christian Right Gets Its Way: 'In God We Trust' Will Have Prominence on New Coin

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posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 11:05 PM
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Perhaps other countries' currency would also be dropping but not every country has become a super power in such a short time as the US. The US is still fairly young compared to most other countries and a strong belief in God is why this country became so fruitful in many respects.
Seems only fair if we no longer trust in God then God will look elsewhere for those who do and reward them accordingly as well.




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posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 11:25 PM
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Hallelujah !!!

I was wondering how long it was gonna take

Now my next question is
are they gonna recall the ones
they've already printed ???



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 11:25 PM
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More than likely (considering the official symbols are masonic), the god in question is probably egyptian-based not christian or judaic. If memory serves, I believe they are rather fond of Ra, Osiris, Baal and the Greco-Roman pantheons. Christians are just the only ones mentioned when there's an issue like this. Probably because it's not the right kind of newsworthy to inform people that masons also appreciate the usage of the word.

To be a mason, you just have to believe in a higher power of some kind. Traditionally,it was a god of some kind, but they've made some wiggle room in there for "higher power", due to the tendency of human nature to swallow that proverbial camel while straining at the proverbial quark.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 12:00 AM
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They can mint coins that say In Corn Flakes We Trust and I won't care. As long as I can spend it I'm good to go.

Do people even use paper money or coins anymore? I haven't held paper money in probably 2 year now. My debit card does it all. Someone should print the word God on it.




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posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by zerotime
Someone should print the word God on it.




Eh, it's not a tradition.
And it's fake money anyway, created outta thin air. Hrm, perhaps you have a point.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 12:12 AM
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Such a shame. as more people move away from GOD and christianity .Take a good look at our society and realize how sick it's become. Hopefully someday people will realize the truth befor JSEUS returns and will repent, other wise may GOD have mercy on them



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 12:51 AM
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Yes, maybe you're right (I'm no expert).

But I'm inclined to suspect that relocating the phrase "In God We Trust" to a different part of the coin isn't going to fix what ails your society. Education might help straighten it out--but education may be contrary to that GOD stuff.

F



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posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
For Pete's sakes,

the penis on the buffalo nickel is offensive, thoughts???


Absolutely, we must remove the Buffalo!

No, but honestly, that was hilarious. Star for making me laugh.

Yes, I'm afraid I have a hard time empathizing with the outrage about this supposed 'christian right' conspiracy. I'm sure the conspiracy exists! I am well aware of a fundamentalist manipulation in our government... nevertheless, it's not a big deal.

I find it funny and ironic that the OP has a thread where people defend (intensely) a statue of Jesus and other holy figures with huge erect penises. I believe the defense was 'It's not that offensive.'


If Jesus Penis statues are not offensive and 'In God We Trust' is somehow outrageous... I'll shove a fork in my kneecap. Otherwise, I suggest the anti-religious movement take a serious check at their moral compass.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
at money is after all considered the root of all evil.


Actually,, it is the obsession or love of money,, that is the root of all evil.

- Con



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 01:22 AM
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Well, I can see how both the phrase on the coins and Jesus's penis could be deemed offensive.

But what I know is that when I travel to my homeland of the US of Freedom, I must handle the local currency.

Fortunately, I don't have to handle Jesus's erect penis (nor do I even have to look at it).

The God phrase on the US's coinage is, to me, an imposition. I want it on coins no more than I'd want it on any other government print or document. Or courtroom.

F



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by palehorse23
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From other posts you have in religious related threads, you obviously like to disrespect anyone that doesn't agree with your point of view. And from the sounds of things, you do it in the name of you God. Well, get used to, as you say, old fashioned spiritual warfare because it will never go away. Not everyone believes as you do. So, this, you need to get over.




So I assume that you agree with the Congressman making a big deal out of this then.


One mans big deal is another atheists sour grapes.


As I have seen you state how God is going ballistic, this must be a move that He told the Congressmen has to be done.


I don't speculate on other peoples "moves" or the congressman. I suggest you ask him yourself.



The big deal as far as I am concerned is not the fact that this is on coins, it is the fact that if it is not, a government representative deems it necessary to cause a fuss.


No the congressmans constituency urged it because Atheists wanted it removed. Christians saw that for what it is and decided anyone hating God that much that a coin will burn there skin like a cross on a vampire has more issues going then what you consider a big deal. It's the same way with nativity scenes at christmas.

Atheists get all offended seeing a baby in a manger but tell others to turn there head if they don't like porn. Clearly, the word God or most theistic symbolism has a very adverse effect on atheist and it was Atheists who started this in the first place. I make no apologies for my dis-respect of atheists,, and what they think of me is none of my business. Many Christians see you guys as sincerely interested in discussion I see you as antagonistic and treat them with as little civility as I can get away with.

That isn't directed at you in particular, I'm just being honest.

- Con

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posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 01:34 AM
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Kinda funny that since this an election year, the same people that are crying for "change" are also the same that are griping about new coins containing the word God.

Do you want change or do you want to keep your dollar?



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 08:07 AM
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I find it funny and ironic that the OP has a thread where people defend (intensely) a statue of Jesus and other holy figures with huge erect penises. I believe the defense was 'It's not that offensive.


Too bad you were not allowed to fully participate in that thread. We were not defending the statue, we were defending the right of the artist to express himself any way he wanted. We said that it wasn't offensive to everyone, only certain individuals like yourself. Your memory seems to be clouded a bit. Anyways, old news. Funny, to me that you still add to my threads. LOL. But hey, thanks!!



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 08:38 AM
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It's funny that anyone who follows Christianity or the ten commandments would want to invoke "the name of the Lord" on any graven image, especially money.

Seems kind of like engraving "In God We Trust" on the bottom of the golden calf and saying "We made this because we trust you God" and then giggling to yourself "Moses is a goner for sure."


apc

posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 09:08 AM
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Who cares? It's monopoly money anyway.

The phrase was added after the Civil War to push an agenda, yes. But the agenda was to encourage national unity.

The United States is not and has never been a Christian nation. Those who argue such are kidding themselves. The people however are largely spiritual and if they wish to exchange currency reflecting their beliefs, so what? You can always barter with goods if you don't want to touch the evil metal.

Personally I think it adds to the joke.

"Here, take my worthless money. It's got God's approval."



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 09:54 AM
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Well the idea of separation of church and state is problematic - the wiki link below (and verbiage) explains it. Constitution = no government sponsored religion (IE - the US can not say it is Catholic, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc). The comment of the separation came way later by T. Jefferson. I do not want religion forced down my throat by the powers that be, but there is a difference.
Plus - who cares? Don't we all have Debit cards to spend our Monopoly money anyway? There are bigger things to worry about.

en.wikipedia.org...


In the United States, separation of church and state is often identified with the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…" The phrase "building a wall of separation between church and state" was written by Thomas Jefferson in a January 1, 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptist Association

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 11:34 AM
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That isn't directed at you in particular, I'm just being honest.


i appreciate that. Honesty is a great policy. Although I do not agree that we can lump all atheistic beliefs into one bad group of people as I do not tend to think all religious folks have bad intentions. I seem to be able to differentiate between those that have true faith and those that tend to just be over the top fundamentalists. I myself am not in the atheist group. They have good points and bad points IMO just as religious groups do. You have to admit that "both sides of the coin", no pun intended, can have the tendency to be a bit closeminded and radical.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 02:13 PM
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I thought I'd better clarify an earlier statement. I don't mean to say that fake money (credit cards) are akin to God in the sense of fake nor in the sense of created out of thin air, but rather that God creates outta thin air. Guess it didn't read quite right.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 02:43 PM
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The Declaration of Independence.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

This country was founded by a fundamental belief in a "God". As has already been said, Taking that right of passage away, is to take away what America has always stood for. A place where man can believe whatever he so chooses to.

Try saying that in communist china, see where that gets you.

This is a part of our freedom, accepting in views that do not necessarily meet our own beliefs.



[edit on 3-2-2008 by West Coast]



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by palehorse23
Too bad you were not allowed to fully participate in that thread.


Not allowed to participate?
I said plenty in that thread.


We were not defending the statue, we were defending the right of the artist to express himself any way he wanted.


Yet now, when an age-old saying 'In God We Trust' is kept on a coin, you refuse to defend the right of the nation to express itself through it's own currency. Despite your anti-religious leaning, the majority of Americans believe in some sort of higher being. Tough luck eh?


We said that it wasn't offensive to everyone, only certain individuals like yourself. Your memory seems to be clouded a bit.


Really? Because I remember saying countless times in that thread that the statue (the lumpy, molten holy figures with enormous erections) didn't offend me whatsoever. I just thought it was stupid shock-art, and clearly obvious shock-art at that.

Now, what I find interesting, is that you're anti-religious leaning is so intense that you would throw your arms up about 'In God We Trust', while defacing a religious icon is just harmless art.

Again, I suggest you fix your moral compass. It is all out of whack. If parading holy figures with erections is ok to you, than putting 'In God We Trust' shouldn't even be an issue.

Thing is, we already know that you are anti-religious and couldn't care less what holy figure is defaced. But the words 'In God We Trust' are like vinegar in your ear. Now is this a moral issue, or are you just plain angry at the word 'God'.?


[edit on 3-2-2008 by NewWorldOver]



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