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The next US president is selected!

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posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 04:53 PM
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My guess is Hillary Clinton. It seems when Daddy Bush and Billy-boy Clinton got together and became buddy buddy when Katrina happened I thought hmmmmmm a Republican and Democrat so chummy chummy something ain't right.

I thought okay Daddy has bought Hillary from Billy. It seems she was at one of the Bilderburg thingy's they hold so I'm saying yes, 2+2 does =4

I think Mc Cain can be bought easy if things go sour and I prey we the people can pull a fast one on them and get someone we the people can mold to what we want life to be like.

If Billary or McCAIN gets in
we might as well kiss our a&&es goodby.

[edit on 2-2-2008 by observe50]




posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by mrsdudara
Easy. John Kerry.

He is backing obama hopeing to be V.P.


I love you're brilliant. Obamha is the next JFK. He will somehow win the hearts of the people. Become president elect and then get a bullet in the head leaving his appointed VP the new president. Just like LBJ. Hillary is a decoy, none the less a part of it, but a decoy. A bitch in sheeps clothing, to make people love Obamha.
Then again Mc Cain ( spelling? on both names) seems like a front runner for the Rebublican " reform ". Which simply means makin the CIA private again and the black opps back in the black. LOL



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 06:54 PM
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It's all a damn nightmare... that this Presidents term ends in 2012 actually has me thinking there might be some truth to all this bs about the year 2012...

Obama? a Muslim sympathizer... Hillary? She's ...insane practically a socialist, and ... I hate to say it... you know, you all know she is going to bang someone in office to get even with Bill... more drama, I mean this whole situation is sick...

Then comes the ultimate social nightmare in terms of US embarassment... Obama/Hillary as duo...

This is certain to happen... we go from bush starting a war, to hillary a socialist having an affair with a Black Muslim sympathizer... come on, we know what happens with those 2 working long hrs together... ANY 2 Male and Female sharing that kind of power... let alone one sharing a grudge ...

They are going to completely undermine weatern civilization...

and what does The republican Party offer us? Holy Crap Batman... John Mc Cain holding the Nuclear foootball? This pasty, psuedo Albino Vietnam flashback having loon... as the only viable representative of the Conservative party...

Or Mitt? Oh No... a Guy that's against medical marijuana in 2008 he's Mormon right... way to go... he really represents the typical conservative young Male in america like myself...

I mean jesus christ what a bunch of assholes or what.... this is the WORST group of kooks yet...

This election seriously represents the death of civilization as we know it... Bush, Bush was alright by comparisson...I mean he sounds like a dunce allot, but...hell, he stood up against a savage part of the world...where Bush is fighting for womens rights (in a way) by going to afghanastan...Hillarys going to have me paying... how much child support.... we will be like... Islam with women in charge.... Scary...just scary...

I heard Obamas speech... "there are only 25'000 fanatical Muslims who would blow us up" and 1 Billion who just want a normal life...

what about the 100 million plus moving next door and converting without force....??? How the hell is this guy on the ticket..., who wants my culture to be anything like that culture? freedom of religion my anus... in a Democracy numbers vote...close the borders...

One of the 2 Republican canditates who could stop this hell on earth...is Mormon? Shoot myself in the Left eye or the right eye? I can't friggin decide!!!!

It took what? a couple Hundred years to make Our religous fanatics laughing stocks.... Now we have a guy WELCOMING a new group???? Holy #e!!! Can I bow to rocks next???

Hillary and Obama... give me a break... wow, this is a nightmare... PLEASE may some of the kooks in here be right... I am praying GW plots some fake terrorist event and stays in power the guys alright, he was kicking ass until all the PC idiots shut him down.


KIss your asses good bye... your demographic doesn't matter...


I forsee a world ruled over after a limited nuclear holocost by Mulatto lesbians... the rest of us need to go underground



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by Alxandro
... but then again, some people say Clinton is a Son of a Rockefella


link here

[edit on 2-2-2008 by Alxandro]


Very cool ! I've seen the Alester Crowley, Barbra Bush connection. But not the Clinton, Rockerfella connection till now! Very interesting.

Anyone see the LA times just picked sides with canidates for the first time ever. They choose Mc Cain for the Elephant people and Obahma for the Donkey people.



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 07:36 PM
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I am intrigued by the psycho/social analysis of Obama as ½ white vs ½ black. Cant comment on Jewish blood – (is there such a thing as religious blood?)


I was under the impression that the Jews (not all of them mind you, like most religions they have converts, etc) are Semites, just like the Palestinians.

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Obama? a Muslim sympathizer



Hillary...insane practically a socialist



I am praying GW plots some fake terrorist event and stays in power the guys alright, he was kicking ass until all the PC idiots shut him down.



I forsee a world ruled over after a limited nuclear holocost by Mulatto lesbians... the rest of us need to go underground


OK *backs away slowly* I don't even know what to say, after reading your post my mouth was hanging so far open I was afraid my jaw was going to lock into that position. I mean, your post has everything! Racism, misogyny, homophobia, bigotry. It's like a cornucopia of intolerance!



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 08:42 PM
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I'm so tired all the NWO/Illuminati, etc. Super secret groups capable of control every aspect of my life. They can't control the drug issue, all the terrorists, illegal downloads, my book choices on amazon, the interesting words that comes out of my 16 month old daughter. As it stands right now in reality there is so much that our current governments can't control, you expect me to believe that an all powerful small group of people can control the world.

Prove it, right here right now. I want all the facts, not some half baked theories from some blogs, some strange videos from youtube with bad background music. Real facts that prove there really is an NWO and they have already born/bred and selected the next President of the USA.

Enlighten me please.



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 09:07 PM
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I am going to have to agree with techsnow on this one...our votes do count to a degree.

Candidates that are not a part of the "criteria" are shoved out by a lack of media coverage...the others that meet the criteria of selection are left.....it really does not matter Republican or Democrat.

Republicans and Democrats alike pull the canvas over our face by arguing over bi-partisan issues, but they still push the underlying agenda of robbing our freedoms....they just go about it in diff ways.

Republicans will tip the boat one way, getting 1/2 of the issue solved...and democrats the other. Of course what they do seems to meet party politics, one taking a little bit there and then when we get sick of what this or that party is doing we get the opposite party in office and they tip the boat the other way...robbing the other side of the coin a little....... back and forth till the erosion is complete.

It is a illusion. You know I am not even sure they know it till the election is complete. Then it is just like Willy Wonka the guy comes whispering in your ear.....telling you how if you do these few little thing for us....your family line can live throught the de-population.



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 09:15 PM
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Well that is the trick isnt it. Ask yourself this. Why does the bilderberg group meet secretly once a year? (that is a fact, easily provable).

Second they state what their agendas are...for each meeting and a list of who attends. (What is it that is so secret that they do not feel they can divulge)

Whay are Amercan Senators and the like, attending these corporation meetings for about world policy....this is a clear and direct violation of policy, but they continue to get away with it. Why is that?

If you are a skeptic I or no one can prove it to you..but there are still some very disconcerting questions that go without explanation. It is not what can be proven or disproven. It is the appearence of evil and when these people are asked about it they just laugh and tilt their nose at you, that is scary! Couldnt you at least agree with that?



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 09:27 PM
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The Cheney/Bush have currently proposed having executive control over all the states National Guard troops in a national emergency.
Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa, called the proposal " one step away from a complete takeover of the National Guard, the end of the Guard as a dual-function force that can respond to both state and national needs."
The provision was tucked into the House version of the defense bill without notice to the states, something Vilsack said he resented as much as the proposal itself.
Under the provision, the president would have authority to take control of the Guard in case of " a serious natural or manmade disaster, accident or catastrophe" in the United States.

In another shining example of modern day corporate fascism, it was announced recently that Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root had been awarded a $385 million dollar contract by Homeland Security to construct detention and processing facilities in the event of a national emergency.
The language of the preamble to the agreement veils the program with talk of temporary migrant holding centers, but it is made clear that the camps will also be used "as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency."
Discussions of federal concentration camps is no longer the rhetoric of paranoid Internet conspiracy theorists, it is mainstream news.
In 2002, FEMA sought bids from major real estate and engineering firms to construct giant internment facilities in the case of a chemical, biological or nuclear attack or a natural disaster.
Okanogan County Commissioner Dave Schulz went public three years ago with his contention that his county was set to be a location for one of the camps.

Alex Jones has attended numerous military urban warfare training drills across the US where role players were used to simulate arresting American citizens and taking them to internment camps.
Concurrently in the US, a new provision in the extended Patriot Act bill would allow Secret Service agents to arrest and jail protesters accused of breaching any security perimeter, even if the President or any other protected official isn't present. The definition of 'free speech zones' can be shifted around loosely and this would open the floodgates for protesters to be grabbed and hauled away in any circumstance at the whim of the Secret Service.
During the 2004 RNC protests, thousands of New Yorkers were arrested en masse in indiscriminate round-ups and taken to Pier 57 (pictured), a condemned, asbestos poisoned old bus depot, where they were imprisoned without charge for up to 24 hours or more.
The existence and development of internment camps are solely intended to be used to round up en masse and imprison 'political dissidents'

Here is the word for word news release:
KBR Awarded Homeland Security contract worth up to $385M. (HAL) (By Katherine Hunt)
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- KBR, the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton Co, (HAL), said Tuesday it has been awarded a contingency contract from the Department of Homeland Security to supports its Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency. The maximum total value of the contract is $385 million and consists of a 1-year base period with four 1-year options. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005. The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs, KBR said. The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster, the company said.
by Peter Dale Scott Pacific News Service

Editor's Note: A recently announced contract for a Halliburton subsidiary to build immigrant detention facilities is part of a longer-term Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable aliens" and "potential terrorists." Scott is author of "Drugs, Oil, and War: The United States in Afghanistan, Colombia, and Indochina" (Rowman & Littlefield, 2003). He is completing a book on "The Road to 9/11." Visit his Web site at www.peterdalescott.net.The... Halliburton subsidiary KBR (formerly Brown and Root) announced on Jan. 24 that it had been awarded a $385 million contingency contract by the Department of Homeland Security to build detention camps. Two weeks later, on Feb. 6, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced that the Fiscal Year 2007 federal budget would allocate over $400 million to add 6,700 additional detention beds (an increase of 32 percent over 2006). This $400 million allocation is more than a four-fold increase over the FY 2006 budget, which provided only $90 million for the same purpose.Both the contract and the budget allocation are in partial fulfillment of an ambitious 10-year Homeland Security strategic plan, code-named ENDGAME, authorized in 2003. According to a 49-page Homeland Security document on the plan, ENDGAME expands "a mission first articulated in the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798." Its goal is the capability to "remove all removable aliens," including "illegal economic migrants, aliens who have committed criminal acts, asylum-seekers (required to be retained by law) or potential terrorists."

In 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft announced his desire to see camps for U.S. citizens deemed to be "enemy combatants." On Feb. 17 of this year, in a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld spoke of the harm being done to the country's security, not just by the enemy, but also by what he called "news informers" who needed to be combated in "a contest of wills." Two days earlier, citing speeches critical of Bush by Al Gore, John Kerry, and Howard Dean, conservative columnist Ben Shapiro called for "legislation to prosecute such sedition."

A 1992 study by the Cox Newspapers Group found that during 1982-1992 FEMA's budgets included only $243 million for disaster relief but $2.9 billion for "black" and classified operations. The



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 09:57 PM
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The point that most of you make is the most important point- that the average American has absolutely no say in WHO the next president will be.
Some of you have said Obama, some Hillary, some McCain, Romney, GW
The point is Does it really matter? Of course not.

There is virtually NO difference between any of them on any substantial matter. They talk about issues that are minor compared to what the real problems are here.

Other than Ron Paul (who is NOT like the rest of them), none of them really have any true solutions to the economic disaster that has, and continues to befall this country today. Ron Paul has a solution, but when he tried to bring it up in the CNN debate the other night, Anderson Cooper cut him off. Ron Paul is too dangerous to the elite to allow him to talk to all of America. He may actually educate people.(and I'm not saying Ron has all of the answers, but at least he has a CLUE as to some of the problems)
Nobody wants to allow real debate on the economic disaster, because none of them(except Paul) have a CLUE about economics. McCain even ADMITTED that when Ron Paul asked him a question in the debate.
So how is a president chosen:

1. First, you need to have a LOT of money
2. The MSM press needs to like you
3. You enter the IOWA and NH primaries, where a few thousand people, who may be nice people, but don't represent a demographic cross-section of this country, vote.
4. The winner of those two small state primaries, then go to a few more small-medium states, enter the primaries, and the winners become the "front-runners".
5. CNN, FOXNEWS and MSNBC then have sham-debates, decide who they think are the "real candidates", exclude everyone else, or let them come on, and IGNORE them
6. They then broadcast "instant analysis of "WHO WON".
7. The MSM press then beats the drums for them
8. Super Tuesday comes.
9. It's a done deal. If the preferred candidate doesn't get the most votes, there's always the Diebold machines (look at NH's results)
10. The two "chosen ones" then run against each other, and most people don't realize that it really doesn't matter which one wins, because they are cookie-cutter images of each other.

And you still think your vote COUNTS?
I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Have a nice day.



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by xSMOKING_GUNx
Now some of you will remember reading or researching the fact that all previous presidents have been born, bred and selected by the so called 'new world order'

So George Washington was "born, bred and selected" by the New World Order?


I doubt this is a fact. I can't see Billary winning the presidency FWIW.



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 10:52 PM
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It's your type of fear that's making what you fear happen. Yes, we will lose Western Civilization, because your attitude pisses all of those who you don't consider to be part of it off.

Sins of the father...Now the children are dysfunctional beyond repair. Yes, it's true.



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 11:46 PM
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I assure you, your vote does count. If it didn't, politicians would not be so accomodating to every little complaint or concern of all of their constituents.

There would be no kissing of babies and hand holding if your vote didn't count. Being a politician seems like a horrible, thankless job...but someone has to do it.



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 11:59 PM
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Since we are throwing out wild speculations here ... let me throw together what I could see happening from things I recall hearing and seeing over the last year or so.



Obama wins ... Clinton VP. Edwards gets put somewhere ... but that is not all, McCain also has a place.

Obama and Clinton, gives us the first black and female to hold those offices. Sign of how the government isn't broken. He will also get Republicans to work with him, to show the two parties can work together and get things done. Edwards was on a deal with those two from the start. McCain will be the war adviser, sending us fightin' 'round the world to -keep peace- and secure our borders. Maybe even Romney as a economic adviser.


Not to mention ... Clinton is still in the White House ... with a good possibility of running for Pres. after the terms are up. At the same time, we now have Jeb Bush ready to run. By the time that is up, the children are grown and matured and Obama will have shown experience isn't the end-all be-all of holding the position.



I am just saying, don't be surprised if all the major players in this bout are still around after all is said in done, just to show you how great our democratic republic is!



Good old Nader is there to spice things up, keep the poll numbers skewed just enough to keep it going to the electoral college, and not an all out popularity vote. Of course, this will depend on the results of the primary and turnout numbers after the smoke has cleared.

His timing, makes me wonder who butters his biscuits. Maybe he and Perot will team up!




Of course, we have the chance of the Bush admin ... or even Cheney with extenuating circumstances, retaining office to provide a sense of security and safety if something tragic happens, like, a hurricane wipes out a city or there is a strike on the country during simulations, or some other strange timed event comes to pass.


I do admit, all the stuff passed does seem like it is set up for McCain and his straight talk of more wars, staying in Iraq indefinitely, and all that other hateful b.s. he spills.

Though, some people still say how good a job GW is doing protecting us, since, there hasn't been another attack since ... then again, look how good Clinton protected us, since, after the bombing of WTC, we didn't have another attack until GW was there ... the arguments are equal in my eyes.



All I know, is, I smell something, and it isn't the will of the people being adhered to.

Why do these times make me feel like a cross between high school elections and the tabloids/soaps spilling into real life affairs and making some sick mixture of surrealism?


It is all in fun ... for I hope none of the wild guess work has any chance of coming true ... but, it isn't impossible, that is the sad part.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 12:24 AM
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Queen Hillary will win.

On a symbolic level, as a society, we're currently involved in including Isis - the lost feminine - back into our reality.

Hillary will continue this.

Bliss,

Thuther

www.conspiracygrimoire.com...



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 12:33 AM
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If you have compared Hillary's poll numbers with how many votes she gets you can tell right away that she's cheating. She gained over 10 points in some cases.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 12:37 AM
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Everyone says the NWO points towards Hillary.
Perhaps they might want signs to point to her so that when the other president (their actual pick) is elected it will seem to be a victory against them or just to mess with CTs?
I am not saying I believe in the NWO thing per say.
But it would be a nice tact to take.



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 10:39 AM
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It is not so much that I need proof as this is simply a theory, and it takes in to account several other long standing and well believed NWO theories.

The reason it becomes a theory in itself is the fact that it is a current event which has so many possible outcomes, it becomes thinking reasoning and questioning.

If you google NWO and President or even search ATS you will see that there are hundreds if not thousands of people out there that are willing to throw these ideas out there, then. with help from each other we can discuss the possibilities, and form an opinion for ourselves.

I went with this scenario because the idea is already seeded and current events allow people like you and me to exercise our minds and think outside the box for a little while.

There is plenty of evidence out there for both sides of the argument and only with research and an open mind will you be able to come to your own conclusion.

Regards S_G



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 11:16 PM
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I'd say it would be Hillary just because the majority seem to be unhappy with GWB for one reason or another and desire change, so I couldn't see it being a Republican. If Hillary is selected, it would give the impression that changes are on the way.


[edit on 3/2/08 by NuclearPaul]



posted on Feb, 3 2008 @ 11:22 PM
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McCain and Hillary are the only two real running mates in this campaign.

As for me, I will write in Ron Paul.



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