Chomsky: US acts like Nazi Germany

Chomsky: US acts like Nazi Germany

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Prominent linguist Noam Chomsky bashes the 'imperialistic' foreign policies of the US, likening Washington to the Nazis in Germany.

Chomsky compared US foreign policies to the conduct of Nazis within Germany, citing the Nuremberg trials as an example of the contradictions between US political speech and government-sanctioned actions.

"I think the ironies of United States deployed treacheries in Vietnam, Nicaragua, Iraq, Iran, and North Korea are self-evident," The Daily Free Press quoted the Pulitzer-Prize winning author as saying at Roxbury Community College.

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Whilst I understand his reasoning, this seems more than a little harsh.

This is not just a condemnation of the current administration, but is directed at various administrations going back decades and is aimed at the disparity between political foreign policy speeches and the actuality of those foreign policies.

I don't like bush and his cronies, but to compare them to nazi's seems a bit over the top.

However, I would like to read the whole speech before making a proper judgement - I just haven't been able to find it yet.

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reply to post by budski


It's not harsh, it's reality and fact-ity. In 4rth Reich there no talk german, nein, we talk Germarica, ja! And there is 'fact-ity' a word!

Originally posted by v01i0
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It's not harsh, it's reality and fact-ity. In 4rth Reich there no talk german, nein, we talk Germarica, ja! And there is 'fact-ity' a word!

By the way, I think you can find Nazi-U.S comparisons all around in Chomsky's rants. I've read a bunch of his publications, and they're all over. And they are often fitting.

Time to go asleep, as I seem to confuse with edit and quote buttons

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You mean Germglish.

Of course Hitler would have a heart attack if some other dirty language was intruding among the superior language.

I totally agree with that statement
the 4th Reich is in power in the US right now
and it's called the Bush Administration.

You mean america is like nazi germany, but living in a dream state. Total apathy helps alot.

Noam Chomsky. He sure is good for a laugh.

I wonder if anyone asked him this: If the US is just like Nazi Germany, how is it that he can stand up there and say just that, and not get hauled away to a Concentration Camp by the Gestapo.

How about it, Noam? Gotta answer for that one???

I got the answer, its the illusion of freedom, Read my above statement, america is nazi germany in a dream state.

reply to post by jerico65


Because he's a superjew!

And come on, stop taking things too literally. I think this comparison is not about the human rights of state's own citizens. It is more like what they have done, the similar things - think of patriot act legislation, invasion wars, unilateral action in interstate politics, reichtag fi- no, 9/11, no, I mean both

Yea you take Chomsky as a laugh, fact is that he has experience and view onto matter. You should try reading him, instead of trying to discredit him; then you would see why he has point.

The Nazi Germany / Current US parallels are pretty startling. Many (especially here on ATS) are aware of Operation Paperclip, the snatching up of leading Nazi scientists near and after the end of WWII, the most widely known of them being Werner Von Braun, the rocket scientist who went on to become an extremely influential figure at NASA. What most people do not know however is that this sweep of scientists was not limited to the physical scientists- rocket engineers and atomic scientists, but extended into the social sciences like political scientists and psycologists as well.

The Stanley Kubrick movie Dr. Strangelove tried to wake people up to the fact that many of the architects of National Socialism were brought here and were given positions of influence in high levels of our government. It is also worthy to note that our current "president"s grandfather Senator Prescott Bush was a known Nazi sympathiser who tried to garner congressional support for Americas early entry into WWII - on the side of Nazi Germany. He was also the subject of an "Unamerican Activities" investigation that was mysteriously dropped with no explanation.

Here is a thread that goes into what the Nazi/Bush connection might have to do with where we are at today in America:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's not harsh, it's the truth. Americans have been deceived as to who has actually been running the country since the end of World War 2, when all their top scientists and top brass defected to the USA under Operation Paperclip. Since then, the Nazis relocated and continued to push their agenda, albeit in a more clandestine manner. It's only now that you are seeing your freedoms slowly evaporated away in public view. By the time the excrement hits the fan it will be already too late.

For more information as to the true historical nature of the Nazi influence on the USA, along with the masons and the magicians, I highly recommend you watch this very good Richard Hoagland interview over at Project Camelot:
projectcamelot.org...

He's got the guts of what's really going down. He seems to have the full picture, and he never makes assumptions either - all his conclusions are drawn from fact and research. I think it is a brilliant interview. It's about time the truth was told - I just wonder how many are willing to face up to it?

What is even more similar is the number of "false flag" plans and actions perpetrated by administrations over the last 50 years.In addition to the Gulf of Tonkin, the latest attempt to blame Iran for the "Filipino's monkey action", there's the Operation Northwoods Plan, an attempt by the DOD to create a fake terrorist attack in the US , and then blame Cuba for it. Compare them to the Reichstag fire, and Heydrich's false invasion of Germany to be blamed on Poland.

Well Chomsky just triggered Godwin's Law

Seriously though, one could make the argument that the US sells it's wars overseas to it's domestic population in the same way Hitler did, by carefully positioning an offensive war as a defensive one.

That said there are few other similarities.

The US's drive for imperial power is based on simple greed and the hunger for power, not by bizarre racial doctrines or ideology.

The US extends it's empire more like Alexander than like Hitler (or Caesar), preferring proxy governments, or at least friendly ones, under an umbrella of "shared security", rather than by annexing territory outright.

And the US has not generally gone in for liquidating populations (at least not since the Native Americans), instead preferring to simply bring them to heel alive.

*Looks around.

If this is Nazi Germany equivalent, why do I still see Jews around me? If supposedly in theory that Nazi scientists has taken over the government. Of course White Supremacists would be happy about it.

reply to post by xmotex


What about Spain? Vichy France? Hitler set up Proxy governments where ever he could.

I like this line:

He also condemned the abusive actions of General David Petraeus and US ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker, against the Iraqi nation.

On a day that this happen:

Two mentally disabled women were strapped with explosives Friday and sent into busy Baghdad markets, where they were blown up by remote control, a top Iraqi government official said.

The bombs killed at least 98 people and wounded more than 200 at two popular pet markets on the holiest day of the week for Muslims, authorities said.

(emphasis added)

SOURCE

Sigh....



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Hitler only set up proxy governments when it was the path of least resistance.
And none of them were independent to the anywhere near the degree that the US's proxies are.

I'm sorry but Mr Chomsky is demonstrating his talent for hyperbole here.

Bunch,

Considering that none of this would be happening if we hadn't invaded, you're only making Chomsky's point for him

While the US may not be quite at the level the Nazis were at, they are not far off.

No amount of arguing can contest that fact, they march around the planet like they own the place. Telling others how to live their lives, how to govern their countries.

How the world can sit by while they torture PoW's, hold people against trial, wage pointless wars that kill hundreds of thousands and do it all in the name of 'freedom' sickens me. How we just let them do it is lunacy.

But what we gonna do? No-one can stand up against them without destroying the entire planet, so I guess we'll all live under the Imperialistic flag of the US soon enough.

Originally posted by deltaboy
*Looks around.

If this is Nazi Germany equivalent, why do I still see Jews around me? If supposedly in theory that Nazi scientists has taken over the government. Of course White Supremacists would be happy about it.

The Jews were used as a tool to unite the people under the banner of hatred.

It's political science 101

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