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U.S. and Kazakhstan snub Russia with new military deal

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posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 01:45 PM
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U.S. and Kazakhstan snub Russia with new military deal


www.reuters.com

ALMATY (Reuters) - The United States promised Kazakhstan on Friday to help it bring its armed forces up to NATO standards in a new military cooperation pact certain to irritate Russia, Kazakhstan's former Soviet overlord.

Kazakhstan's ties with Moscow have cooled over the past year as the energy-rich Central Asian state -- the biggest economy in the region and home to some of the world's largest oil fields -- seeks to pursue a more independent diplomacy.

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posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 01:45 PM
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Is it just me, or does it seem Russia and the U.S. are starting to become increasingly more hostile to one another? First the Kosovo warning, now this. This whole situation makes me uneasy if I'm being honest.

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posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 02:09 PM
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Well the US is attempting to encircle Russia with US proxies, and for some reason the Russians aren't happy about that.

After all, we'd simply be delighted if the Russians or Chinese started signing defense pacts and basing forces in Canada and Mexico



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 02:12 PM
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The Russians already done it by selling weapons to Venezuela. Think of it as a retaliation for that.




posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
The Russians already done it by selling weapons to Venezuela. Think of it as a retaliation for that.


Was the U.S. sponsored coup in Georgia and Ukraine a retaliation too? If so it must have been some type of preemptive retaliation, since Russia did not sell anything to Venezuela at that time. Venezuela is peanuts compared to what the U.S. is cooking in Central Asia and all around Russia.

U.S. is backing every willing dictator in the CIS countries, and is even organizing coups against the unwilling dictators (Uzbekistan). The reasons for this are two-forld - isolate Russia, and get as much energy-rich dictatorships under the belt as fast as possible. It's all good - until you start to consider the long-term consequences. All the crap that the U.S. has its hands in in Central Asia, will come back and bite it in the ass - hard. 20 years from now the U.S. will be choking on Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Kazakhstan among others.

Kazakhstan has never been stable or predictable. That is why Russia is cautious in dealing with Nazarbayev, and is not too quick to sign deals with him. The entire country is under his firm control, and virtually all other political parties are closely allied with him. But his foundation is very shaky. This is another moronic move by the U.S., that cannot possibly turn out to be good in the long run.

Yes- Kazakhstan is rich with oil and natural gas. There is only one problem - how are you going to get that oil and gas out without transporting it through Russia? build another Caspian pipeline, further destabilizing the entire region and promising future conflicts?

But hey - if U.S. wants to shower its new "ally" with gifts and military equipment more power to it. It is just too fun to watch how the master plan miserably fails 10 or 20 years from now, and U.S. will have not 1 Iran to be concerned about, but 10 Iran-like rogue states.

Oh - and irritating Russia is hardly of any benefit either. Russia is quite able to cause irritation in return. Oh course when it does everyone will be yelling and crying about how evil Putin is, about dirty commies making a comeback, and about NWO hammering nails into your head. The hypocrisy is through the roof, but the U.S. public could not give a crap. It is just too funny to watch how the whole thing is playing out, and how the U.S. propaganda is masterfully handling the Public's opinion - Putin is evil, Putin wants to destroy us, Putin wants to bring back communism, Putin is a dictator, Putin wants to kill all Russia's neighbors. Seriously who is this bull# meant for? 5 year olds?



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 02:57 PM
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Oh no question, I think the states are instigating 90% of the BS. Our admin just loves pushing almost the entire rest of the world around and starting up crap. I swear they're trying to spark off WWIII.



[edit on 1-2-2008 by DimensionalDetective]



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 03:12 PM
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Russian and Kazak relationships are bad. I don't think so.


Russia, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan sign Caspian gas pipeline deal


MOSCOW: Russia, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan signed an agreement Thursday to build a natural gas pipeline along the Caspian Sea coast that would strengthen Moscow's monopoly on energy exports from the resource-rich region.

But the plan also delivers a strong blow to Western hopes of securing alternate energy export routes.

The deal, which follows a preliminary agreement reached in May, ended months of tense arguments over the price of gas supplies.

"We have just signed an extremely important agreement between Russia, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan on building the Caspian pipeline," Russia's President Vladimir Putin said. "It will become a new, important contribution of our nations into strengthening the European energy security."

The agreement was signed after Putin's talks in the Kremlin with President Nursultan Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan and their conference call with Turkmen President Gurbanguli Berdymukhamedov.

Ha ha ha, USA can just cries.


Russia Signs Deal for Gas Pipeline Along Caspian Sea


By JUDY DEMPSEY
Published: December 21, 2007

Desperate to meet growing domestic and European demand, Russia signed a deal Thursday with the Central Asian republics of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to build a natural gas pipeline along the Caspian Sea, a move that analysts said could strengthen Russia’s monopoly on energy exports from the region.

The deal was signed in the Kremlin by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and President Nursultan A. Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan during a conference call with President Gurbanguly Berdymukhammedov of Turkmenistan.


Aren't they nice?




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