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Is the real goal of the NWO to destroy Israel?

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posted on Jan, 31 2008 @ 08:15 PM
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The more I dig into the events of Black Tuesday one thing becomes more and more clear: Reverse psychology was the core method of the operation and is being used concerning every aspect of the Con Job and that sometimes these ruses are stacked in multiple layers, confusing even the most ardent researchers.

Some obvious examples of this are :

"19 Arab Muslims led by a fanatic who hates America hiding in a cave in Afghanistan did it" when it was actually a handfull of criminals within our own government working in conjunction with a shadow government run by the bankers and greed crazed corporations of the world, the "New World Order" or "Illuminati", and they certainly do hate us for our freedoms. Which is why W constantly snickers in our faces when saying half truths like "The people who did this hate us for our freedoms". Half is true because the people responsible for this heinous crime certainly do hate us for our freedoms , the untrue half being that the spoiled brat druggie punk that said that is one of THEM, not US.

Another big one is this: "The Towers collapsed from the top down due to the impacts of airliners and the resulting fires"

In reality of course this was a lie. The Towers were made to appear to "collapse" from the top down by using explosives to cut the hanger bolts of the floors at the outside columns only leaving the floor support trusses attached to the incredibly strong central core . The concrete floors then draped around the central core structure looking something like a giant christmas tree and this was concealed from veiw by the resulting dust cloud caused by turning the outside perimeter of the concrete floors into billowing clouds of dust with the explosives used to cut the hanger bolts.
The "cristmas tree" then gravity fed itself into a nuclear furnace from a small nuke in the basement shielded from the rest of Manhattan by being below ground neatly vaporizing around 90% of the mass of the Towers like feeding a christmas tree into a woodchipper. The now unsupported outside columns then tumbled onto the smoldering remains of the rest of the building thereby blanketing the glowing mess from veiw.
The "switcharoo" was this- you were plainly shown the building being demolished from the top down to conceal the fact that it was really destroyed from the bottom up.
Pure Evil Genius.

The demolition of WTC 7 in plain veiw later in the day served to confuse those trying to make sense of the whole thing by showing what a building really looks like when it is demolished with conventional explosives. Why would they show this? Any person of average intelligence can plainly see that this building was being demolished.The ruse was this : By exposing 90% of the truth , no matter how damning, to the more clever among us they added "another layer to the onion" to mentally peel through to find the core truth they were hiding: The towers were incinerated with nuclear weapons. The less clever and easily fooled would believe the ridiculous cover story anyways- they were not a problem.
Pure Evil Genius.

I could go on with more examples, but you I think you get the idea here. The purpose of this thread is not to discuss whether "9/11 was an Inside Job". It was. There are plenty of threads out there were you can engage in all the circular argument you want about that. If you are truly still in the dark about 9/11 and want to learn instead of arguing I suggest avoiding wasting your time and mental energy and simply go read old threads on the subject as all of this was hashed out years ago, multiple times from every angle.

With that being said, back to the what is the subject of this thread.

With a pattern of reverse psycology being used in many aspects of these attacks to confuse researchers and lead them down multiple dead end logic holes now established my question is this:

If every aspect of the 9/11 Con Job that we are presented with turns out to be a ruse to make us believe the opposite of what is actually the truth, logic dictates that perhaps the picture painstakingly painted to make it seem like it was plotted primarily by Zionist Jews for the benefit of Israel is also false. Is the real agenda of the fascist PNAC group of thugs to DESTROY Israel?

The Bush / Nazi connection is well established with Ol Grandad Senator Prescott Bush on record trying to garner congressional support for Americas entry into WWII on Nazi Germanys side. The NeoCons are obviously fascists, are they National Socialists (Nazis) as well? Lets hear your views on this idea, and please dont turn this into a Jew or Muslim (or Nazi for that matter)bashing contest.




posted on Jan, 31 2008 @ 09:57 PM
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In addition to the Bush/Nazi connection there is of course the Bush/Saudi connection. Nazis are the epitomy of Anti-Semitism and the Saudi Arabians are a close second for the title. Could the real agenda of the NWO that the Bush crime family is a leading member of actually be to destroy Israel? What about all of the Jews involved in 9/11? Many of them were of course American citizens , and are therefore traitors. Is it that far of a stretch to imagine that they would betray Israel for money as well?



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 06:40 PM
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The Neocons exist to promote Israel above all other nations including the United States. Neo-consevatism is the 2.0 version of Zionism.



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 07:10 PM
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I'll Second that statement.




neo-cons, mostly having dual citizenship of Israeli & American,
are Israeli-Centric---and fundamentally hate all 'common' Arabs & Muslims
(or that is the commonly accepted theory)

neo-liberals, are the pimps for the banker elites, IMF, World Bank, and the large (fascist) transnational corporations


see... the Bush regimes' positions embraces both the neo-con ideology and the neo-liberal ideology... the whole spectrum -
as they play both sides for their own 'elitest' advantage & policy purposes!



and in the long run, the shadow gov't or illuminati oriented powers-that-be,
will sell out or even attack Israel....friend or foe...for the expediency of the moment



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 10:35 PM
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The last posts seem to suggest that those running the show are simply multi-national criminals with little or no national ties. I can accept that. However, this does not discount the possibilty that Israel is the real target, or at least an integral part of the plan. Every other aspect of the 9/11 Con Job has involved reverse psychology. One thing was presented to the masses to conceal the real plan.

Jews have plainly been presented by those who perpetrated the crimes of Black Tuesday as the primary villains and beneficiaries, so this begs the quetion : Are they really the target? Portraying them as the villains would ingender sympathy for an aggressor against them if they were attacked later. I know this is not a palatable or popular idea around here, but it is definitely an avenue that should be considered in trying to figure out the true goals of the criminals casting their wicked web upon us.



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by St Udio
reply to post by Hector
 


neo-cons, mostly having dual citizenship of Israeli & American,




I was unaware of this. Who are you referring to, can you give an example? If this is true it doesnt change my question because we already know the people directly responsible for these crimes are traitors to the U.S., is it unbelievable for some reason that they are not traitors to Israel as well?



posted on Feb, 5 2008 @ 10:50 AM
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*Moderator Note - Please stay on topic

[edit on 5-2-2008 by dbates]



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 01:10 AM
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Thank you debates (christian) for deleting truthful information, I should have know.

son, this topic is all about biblical events, the real goal of the nwo to destroy isreal?

I was on topic, and their rela goal is to pave antichrists way..

thanksdabtes...

God bless you.



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 01:20 AM
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Personally I think that Israel will be destroyed in order to re-build Solomon's Temple where the Dome of the Rock is. When Solomon's temple is rebuilt that will signal the end/beginning of a new age. Control of Jerusalem is crucial. If/when the Dome of the Rock is blown-up, that's the time to start worrying. Obviously all opinion only



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 01:42 AM
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There is the whole Devil worshiping angle to the NWO. Some think that by promoting Israel as a Jewish nation they are trying to fulfill apocalyptic prophecy from the Bible.
Just thought I'd throw that in there.



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 01:46 AM
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reply to post by JesusisTruth
 


Something tells me what you said had something to do with what I said. I vaguely remember something about Palestine being destroyed and the Anti-Christ coming once Israel is a Jewish nation once again.

[edit on 6-2-2008 by Trauma]



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 11:41 AM
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You evee wonder if any influencial Americas have any ties to Israel?
Watch this video,and at 7:50 in,it lists a few people who posses dual citizenship with Israel.
And then ask yourself if America is used to further the wants of Israel,instead of the wants of its citizens.




posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 03:28 PM
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That video was absolutely jaw dropping. A serious eye opener. I had NO idea how deeply entrenched Israel is in our government. I have trouble believing that the 911 Truthers such as the Loose Change guys left out this information because they're working for the Israelis, it could very well be that the information is very hard to get since that news report was erased from the Fox archives.
I read a while back that Mossad agents were spotted with Bush Jr. and Sr. near JFK Jr's plane a few days before it took off.
Either way, this is unbelievable. Thank you Black fox.

[edit on 6-2-2008 by Trauma]



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 04:08 PM
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Great post Fox, the Israeli infulence at the top levels of our government and of course in 9/11 are undeniable. Is it your belief that the Busch Junta Traitors including their Arab partners are working with Israeli agents to form a new purely Zionist Israel? Or was there perhaps a deal struck, with the non Jewish members of this pact simply gaining their own power position in this "New World Order"?



posted on Feb, 7 2008 @ 10:32 AM
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Heres something else to watch.
There seems to be alot of Israeli interests when things happen.

Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11
Israeli/Zionist Foreknowledge of 9/11


"Document The Event" The 9/11 High Five Montage



[edit on 7-2-2008 by Black_Fox]



posted on Feb, 7 2008 @ 11:00 AM
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reply to post by Black_Fox
 

Great stuff Fox, the Israeli link in the execution of and subsequent benefit from the 9/11 attacks is undeniable. The Bush link with Nazi ism is also clear. Did these Israeli's make a "deal with the devil" to further their own agenda perhaps thinking they can squirm out of the deal later?

Is it possible that the Bush Junta plans a "night of the long knives" to betray those who helped them gain power, the same way Hitler did when he betrayed his closest supporters after they helped him seize total control of Germany? The way that Israel is being painstakingly portrayed to us as the true culprit here makes me wonder if they are not being set up to take the fall when the masses awaken .



posted on Feb, 7 2008 @ 11:16 AM
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if you what real answers you must go back to the early 1900s and find out
just who was responsible for creating this ,what is supposed to be a
fictional biblical place called Isreal......hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm.

I` not prejudice againts any race,creed or colour..
but I don`t understand how someone could come into some
one elses land and claim it because of some religious
book that has a fictional land that claims that this land is theirs....


this sounds like the work of very powerful and very agenda driven individuals to me.

when I did a bit of searching on this , it was all Rothchild this and Elite
family that.....god ,what a mess.

the sacred land because god says so huh?..hhhhhmmmmmm

humans are so gullible..



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