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New Bush budget Plan would nearly freeze all DOMESTIC spending

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posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 11:37 AM
And the austerity programs hit the US now. This should be a tough battle for you US citizens to beat. That is, if congress doesnt do anything about it.

Good luck guys...

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 11:57 AM
And here is the reason our decider needs to cut DOMESTIC spending back...

U.S. defense spending seen peaking in new Bush budget

Rising costs of fuel, health care, fighter jets, warships and other big-ticket items are seen inflating Bush's 2009 military plan, boosting top contractors headed by Lockheed Martin Corp, then Boeing, Northrop Grumman Corp, General Dynamics Corp and Raytheon Co.

Analyst Loren Thompson of the private Lexington Institute, a research group with close ties to the Pentagon and industry, said military procurement in Bush's baseline budget request will surge to $111 billion in fiscal 2009 from $98 billion in 2008. The administration has already said it will seek even more procurement funding in a 2009 supplemental request, including money for four Lockheed F-22 fighter jets.

Full story

Sickening. Anybody who can't see through these people's transparency anymore is totally blind. So much for taking care of America.

[edit on 1-2-2008 by DimensionalDetective]

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 12:07 PM
The terrorist need do nothing more to bring down America. The folks in washington have picked up the banner and are shoving it down our throats.

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 12:17 PM
reply to post by kattraxx

Mainstream media works very hard to direct your frustration and anger at the poor, instead of where it rightfully belongs: corporate welfare.

This is so true. Great post. Your insight needs to be widely disseminated. Everyone should be made aware of this ultimate bait-and-switch routine.

I was just thinking this morning, what would happen if every family, household, and individual incorporated? A family or household could easily be run as a business, with profits and losses, income and expenses, shareholders and everything. We could all then claim corporate welfare, write off our losses, shelter our profits, dispense tax free earnings to shareholders (us), and not pay anything to the government.

Hey, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em and take over from within! Use their own tactics against them.

[edit on 1-2-2008 by Icarus Rising]

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 12:19 PM
I tell you this much, when 9/11 happen, supposedly was targeting America financial sector I can see now the message here, Al-qaida wanted to hit American where it hurt the most, financially.

Too bad that Washington is making it possible.

We have morons in the White house.

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 12:38 PM
to my understanding:

a Freeze in budget item spending is not a cut back in funds...

the cuts or savings the staff workers are trying to find, are only loopholes
getting plugged or service structure enhancements, so that the system runs more efficiently.

with the dollar declining & Fed rates going down too, it would seem to follow that the present expendatures are adequate to produce the desired services. I haven't seen any first hand 'denials of service' to anyone on gov't social programs....from housing through medicare,

now it is unclear if the tightening of medicaid is aimed at all those illegals getting free/subsidized health care at the local hospital emergency room Or honest citizens that are short-on-cash-/-between jobs-just got mugged and have no credit cards....

that's my shoot-from-the-hip response

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 01:01 PM

Originally posted by marg6043
I tell you this much, when 9/11 happen, supposedly was targeting America financial sector I can see now the message here, Al-qaida wanted to hit American where it hurt the most, financially.

That was al-quaeda's goal from the get go!

Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S. - Tuesday, November 2, 2004

"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript.

He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, "using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers."

"We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden said.

"It is true that this shows that al Qaeda has gained, but on the other hand it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something that anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced.

"And it all shows that the real loser is you," he said. "It is the American people and their economy."

As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America.

"So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future," bin Laden said.

We watched it happen to the Soviet Union, now we get to watch it happen to our own country!

What's wrong with Bush! Can't he see what's happening!

[edit on 1/2/08 by Keyhole]

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 01:02 PM
reply to post by BlueRaja

Entitlement programs still make up the preponderance of government spending, and the rate of government spending here has greatly contributed to deficts.

This whole war on entitlements is just a cover for the robbery committed by the federal government on the Social Security Fund. There is nothing but IOUs in Gore's "iron-clad lock-box." The Boomers' pension fund has been looted and the looters are looking for a way out of the building before their thievery is discovered and the tab comes due.

Since when has entitlement spending greatly contributed to deficits? Since this administration took office, that's when. Now, I'm not a big fan of Clinton, but under his watch these programs weren't cut or frozen like this, and he ran a surplus and paid down the national debt.

You might say 9/11 changed all that. I say it was intended to. Everything this administration has done to strip the American people of rights, services, and benefits of citizenship has been justified by 9/11 and the resulting declaration of the WOT. All of the funds (not to mention the huge increase in the national debt) intended for these lost services and benefits has been diverted to coporate interests directly related to the MIC. Clinton has been blamed for cutting military spending too deeply and leaving the country vulnerable to attack. Again, I say the false flag attack of 9/11 has worked to perfection for the MIC. So far.

Yes, Medicare and Medicaid spending accounts for more than 20% of the money spent by the federal government.

The federal government is expected to spend about $650 billion on Medicare and Medicaid in 2008. It represents more than $1 out of every $5 spent by the federal government.

I say good. Don't take this money from us for these programs if they aren't going to be provided to the needy and underprivileged. What about the $trillion-plus that has been taken from us and sent to Iraq and Afghanistan to line the pockets of Halliburton, KBR, and Blackwater? Again not to mention the defense contractors and other agents of the MIC.

This smoke and mirrors game is about over, I think. The trouble is, the global fascists are probably going to be forced to come out in the open with their agenda soon, and things will get worse before they get better.

[edit on 1-2-2008 by Icarus Rising]

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 07:05 PM

Originally posted by kattraxx
Food stamps and all other social programs combined are but a drop, literally, in the bucket compared to the billions taxpayers pony up for "corporate welfare".

Mainstream media works very hard to direct your frustration and anger at the poor, instead of where it rightfully belongs: corporate welfare. And this is obviously by design. As they say, united we stand, divided we fall.

Take a few minutes to check it out some time so your outrage can be aimed where it belongs.

The following is but one of many links concerning corporate welfare.

Right on, I could not agree more. I am tired of hearing about how it is the poor, those who cannot feed their families, those who can not pay for health care, those who can not pay for homes to live in are the problem. When at the same time corporations make out like bandits. Not only that we the people are paying for expenses they themselves should but also that so many loopholes exist that they pay a fraction of their taxes if at all.

It disturbs me that the people of this nation care more for business than for their neighbors.

Sorry to digress but I am just on edge, I am simply dumbfounded that this is going on.

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 07:18 PM
reply to post by Keyhole

Thanks Keyhole, you found the links

2004 and now almost 4 years later look at our economy the mess we are, two trillion dollar wars, deficit, the incredible defense budget that caters to the private interest in American, the increase of oil prices to benefit the Arabs nations, the sell out of our nation, yes Al-qaida was right they knew what was planned for America when Bush go in power.

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 08:56 PM

Originally posted by geocom
you don't need an AA to go to work as a techie in Iraq I was offered about the same money to go to Doha and do telecom work but declined to go..

True, I just threw the AA in there so that the truth was not too unbelievable.

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 09:48 PM
reply to post by Animal

I'm not sure most Americans even realize there is corporate welfare, let alone the extent of it. Maybe when they do, there might be some fighting in the streets. In the immortal words of Jim Morrison: "They've got the guns, but we've got the numbers."

Take the fun corporate welfare quiz:

posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 10:13 PM

Originally posted by kattraxx
reply to post by Animal

Take the fun corporate welfare quiz:

Excellent link, thank you very much for posting it! It should be mandatory reading for everyone, I knew things were wacky, to say the least, but that it outrageous.

posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 06:14 PM

Originally posted by geocom
well I am not for cutting medicare but it would be nice if they would stop food stamps and welfare for good finally that would save a ton..

I don't just mean dump everybody but say give them 6 months to get a job and get some money in the bank and after that those in housing pay rent and buy their own food...


This tightening of the noose is getting tighter and everyone is feeling the pinch including me. Why would you want that? This war needs to stop period. The only one who wanted it was Bush.

posted on Feb, 11 2008 @ 08:32 AM
reply to post by Britguy

Good go rent the movie "Boys From Brazil." It is about this topic of the nazis after ww2 and how they plan to retake America and the world!

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