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Mystery Disease Killing Bats: Could Force Extinction


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reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 04:05 PM by SlasherOfVeils


No more bats in my county in NJ The effects were extremely noticable this year. BUGS BUGS AND MORE BUGS. Bats are one of the biggest killers of mosquitos and biting insects in my area, and I sware every single day I went outside past 6pm I would get bitten all over, repellant or not.

Darn 'squiters were even biting right through clothes

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reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 04:54 PM by Morbo the Annihilator


There's an online petition to save the bats:

White Nose Bats Petition

In all honesty, I've never been entirely sure how effective online petitions are, but hopefully this will, at the very least, increase awareness.

There's also another site encouraging people to build their own "Bat Boxes":


What can be done so that next summer is less buggy? Build a bat box! Scientists are not sure how the disease spreads but believe that smaller hibernation sites could help the spread of this disease.



linky

A bat box might not be that bad of an idea, actually. I wouldn't mind having my own 'skeeter eater on my property. But I might be a little concerned about them habitating alone - they are "group" creatures, aren't they? I wouldn't want to upset the colony balance any worse than is already happening...



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reply posted on 13-10-2009 @ 07:47 PM by born65


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from what I can tell it is a strain of wasp that is killing bats en masse via its host spider- what is interesting is that certain wasps also will kill honeybee larvae and further the wasps also seem to come from venezuela and uruguay- and are engineered



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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 03:23 PM by loam


WINTER 2009 UPDATE:



Fish and Wildlife Service Drafts Plan on White Nose Syndrome

In response to calls from the Center for Biological Diversity, dozens of other conservation organizations, scientists and members of Congress, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has drafted a plan to respond to white-nose syndrome, a disease that has been killing millions of bats in the eastern United States over the past three winters.

Earlier this month, the Center for Biological Diversity sent a letter to the agency’s director, pleading for faster, more coordinated action on the die-off, which scientists believe could cause the extinction of several bat species within a few years.

White-nose syndrome has wiped out an estimated 1.5 million bats and reduced populations of bats in some areas by 90 to 100 percent. It has rapidly spread from the Albany, New York area, where it first appeared in caves in the winter of 2006-07, to a total of nine states from New Hampshire to West Virginia. It is expected to show up in bat caves this winter in Kentucky, Tennessee, and other mid-western and southern states, and biologists think it may reach the West Coast within two to three years.



The article continues:


“White-nose syndrome is like a house on fire,” says Mollie Matteson, a wildlife biologist and conservation advocate in the Center for Biological Diversity’s Northeast office. “People have been throwing buckets of water on it, and calling 911, but it’s taken a long time for the fire trucks to get there. We’re grateful, but we hope it’s not too late.”

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The response to the swiftly spreading bat illness has been hampered by lack of resources and coordination among the growing number of state and federal agencies, research institutions, cave owners and managers, and others pulled into the crisis. Common myths and prejudices about bats have also posed a challenge for those advocating for faster action. But bats provide vital services to humans by eating enormous quantities of insects, and keeping potentially troublesome insect pests in check. In some parts of the country, bats play an important role in pollination.

This spring and summer, concerned members of Congress did host three hearings on the syndrome, but the House did not approve any additional funding for it, and the Senate appropriated only $500,000 for monitoring. Biologists outside the Fish and Wildlife Service have stated that a minimum of $5 million was needed just to address the current extent of the crisis and more would be needed as the illness spread.



I did a little experiment the other day and asked people I knew whether they had heard of the problem?

Not a single one did.



My prediction is that it will receive national attention well after it is too late. In fact, that may now be more of an observation than a prediction.

I hope I'm wrong.

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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 03:30 PM by unityemissions


Thanks loam, for continuing to focus on topics that are of grave importance.



I think fungus overgrowths are not only in bats, but also effecting humans to a great extent. I personally seemed to suffer from fungal infections and had to use very high-dose niacin for a full year to wipe most of it out. Still dealing with fungus in hair at least, but oregano oil takes care of that.

Candidiasis (the disease that you get when the numbers of candida albicans build up in your body and cause various health problems) can be a devastating problem indeed it has been called a "killer disease". Candida problems were virtually unheard of before 1940 since then however an overgrowth of the yeast candida albicans has become a common problem in the United States. It is estimated that between 30 to 80 percent of the American populace has a mild to severe candida overgrowth. Other world reports have suggested that as many as 80 to 90% of people suffer from candida related problems.

Candida

S & F.



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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 04:35 PM by loam


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Thank you for the kudos...

Of all of the threads I have authored on this site, this is the one that surprises me the most in terms of lack of member interest.

I've never understood that.



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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 05:00 PM by Larryman


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The die-off may be further along than authorities think. An ATS member posted in another thread ("What's shaking the skies of the North West?" - page 12) that there is a noticible absence of bats along the west coast of U.S.



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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 05:03 PM by unityemissions


edit for: found my statement to be false

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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 05:03 PM by Tadarida


loam - THANK YOU for this thread, I had not seen it before today.

WNS is a huge, horrific problem. Bats are crucial to our ecological balance, and unfortunately they have gotten a really unfounded and bad reputation from the horror film genre.

I have a ton of information I can post here about bats and White Nose Syndrome. Will come back when I have more time. Creating awareness of this is key -- it is all but ignored by the media.

Thanks again!



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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 05:14 PM by loam


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Originally posted by Tadarida
...unfortunately they have gotten a really unfounded and bad reputation from the horror film genre.

....it is all but ignored by the media.



Is that what it is? Some sort of cultural bias against bats that prevents the reporting of the extent of the crisis?

When bees became imperiled, the MSM couldn't stop talking about it. With bats, it's almost nada.

That's so odd to me.




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Originally posted by Larryman
The die-off may be further along than authorities think. An ATS member posted in another thread ("What's shaking the skies of the North West?" - page 12) that there is a noticible absence of bats along the west coast of U.S.


Can you provide a link?

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reply posted on 14-10-2009 @ 05:25 PM by Larryman





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reply posted on 15-11-2009 @ 12:30 AM by loam


UPDATE:



By the end of the next year, nearly 95 percent of Pennsylvania’s hibernating bat species are expected to die!

Swooping through the crisp night air, and scooping up small insects. The Pennsylvania’s hibernating bat species may have entered caves, attics, and abandoned mines to hibernate for the last time.

A pandemic has broken out and by the end of the next year, nearly 95 percent of Pennsylvania’s hibernating bat species are expected to die, according to Wildlife Biologist Greg Turner with the Wildlife Diversity Section of the Pennsylvania Game Commission.



And:



"What we saw was bat soup."

Thomas Kunz emerges from Aeolus cave in East Dorset, Vermont, with a half-dozen metal ID bands -- smaller than SpaghettiOs -- cupped in the palm of his latex-gloved hand. They’re tiny emblems of death, having once been affixed to the forearms of little brown bats.

The renowned bat biologist from Boston University, who bears a passing resemblance to Harrison Ford, minutes earlier had recovered the bands while trudging, like a real-life Indiana Jones, through a slippery mud-like ooze of rotting bat carcasses, liquefied internal organs, toothpick-sized bones, piles of guano, and a strange white fungus on the cave floor.

If bats had come out of hell, it couldn’t have been worse than this.

“What we saw was bat soup. There were a lot of bones of wings and skulls and emulsified bodies,” Kunz says. “There were dead bats -- decomposing bats -- hanging from the walls of the cave.



The article continues:



The mass deaths are difficult to quantify because wild bats are almost impossible to count, but to scientists monitoring hibernation sites, serious declines are as undeniable as they are unprecedented. Population counts at two dozen small winter colonies in Massachusetts, New York, and Vermont show they have plummeted from 48,626 bats to 2,695 -- an average 94.5 percent decline -- since the outbreak began.



But generally *crickets* on this subject...Here and in the MSM.

Why is that?



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