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Asteroid BC15 ("discovered" yesterday) closer than Tu24 and it's closest dist. to earth is Today?

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posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 06:49 AM
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Disclaimer: I only have basic knowledge of the mechanics of the universe, and our solar system..


Alright, so I was thinking, if we are moving through an asteroid belt which we didn't know existed, or even a large debris field of chunks of asteroid, there has to be a reason for it. We humans are so smart, we've got our Space Agencies, with all of their high tech gadgets.. so we believe every single word they tell us, and don't tell us.

These asteroids that are just now being picked up are likely taking the exact orbital path around the Sun from a far away place which at this time and era, we cannot see during day time due to it from behind the Sun on its way into our solar system. All 2012/Nibiru proponents say the reason we haven't spotted planet Nibiru is because it will take this same exact path into the solar system, to where we cannot spot it until it's already about to cross in front of the Sun. There is some kind of 'force' or 'channel' herding these new asteroids we are finding that are all close-earth ones.

The revelation reference to the stars from heaven and the fig tree makes perfect sense for multiple impacts. As I say to everyone, in revelation it clearly and decisively predicts that we will be hit by not just one, but numerous near-earth objects, ie; stars, ie; asteroids/comets, because stars is plural, more than one. Then after this, it speaks of two MORE occasions where stuff hits the Earth. It says a mountain will be thrown into the sea, and that one named Wormwood will make the waters bitter (poisonous to drink). There's also a part where one of the angels, a censor bearer, scoops up hot coals and what not from the incense altar of God and throws them down onto the Earth. Here too we see objects from outer space, prophesied to hit the Earth. So let's count:

1) Mountain will be thrown into the sea.
2) Stars will fall from Heaven like unripe figs off a tree.
3) Angel throws fiery coals/embers onto the Earth with a censor.
4) Wormwood hits the Earth causing the waters to become poisonous.

There are four mentions of Earth impacts in Revelation, and two of the prophesies speak of multiples, such as STARS, and hot COALS.. plural .. more than one, alot of, being thrown. So then, breaking apart upon entry of the atmosphere, this will fulfill the prophecy of the hot coals and/or the figs from the fig tree. I personally think Wormwood will be a nuclear device or chemical device and not an asteroid/comet, but we shall see.

It seems that we are beginning to enter the thick of it, my friends. I guess this countdown to 2012 is going to be wilder than I thought, with more stuff going on, look at January 2008 already! It's amazing how in 2007 .. not much happened toward the 2012 prophecies, but in 2008, just this first month has seen so much stuff relating to the prophecies that it is just ridiculous. We are entering a new age, excuse me, we've already entered into a new age, and this is the end-time age. The book is in the final chapter. It shall be finished soon, and the multitudes of the World will look to the sky in utter awe and disbelief at the sights and signs which will approach.

When the cosmic bombs start falling, it is a good time to get right with God.




posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 08:24 AM
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Goes to show, that NAZA really wouldn't tell us if we were about to meet our maker. They of course will tell us if it misses and say they "just discovered it".



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 08:37 AM
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First of all, thank you very much for the input that everyone has provided. I feel like I am learning something here. Now on to the latest. When checking out the Harvard.edu (Tom's Asteroid Flyby's) link that I provided in the first post of this thread I noticed another asteroid that was "discovered" yesterday (2008 BE15) and will be at its nearest point to earth either tomorrow or Monday (I cannot remember which column is which).
Here is the link, check it out:
hea-www.harvard.edu...

And here's a little more:
hea-www.harvard.edu...:47:00

This one "only" comes as close as .02AU so its not nearly as close as BC15 or Tu24. This one is also going about 4 times slower than Tu24 and about 16 times slower than BC15. Anyway, just thought you'd like to know and I'm going to keep checking this out just to see if these asteroids keep popping up. Maybe we are entering an area of increased NEO's or maybe this is normal and I just had not been looking??? What do you think. FYI, I cannot find this one on the NASA JPL site. Thanks again.



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 09:35 AM
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Hey all - reading this post on ANOTHER 'close-ecounter' with an asteroid hitting Earth and started to think. This is the second impact warned by the NASA / JPL within days and i would like to take a few minutes to discuss the possibility of it being nothing but scare tactics.

I find it funny that with all of NASA's technological know-how and observatories around the world that they would have 'only recently' spotted this asteroid. Afterall movies promised that any threat of asteroid could be avoided using nuclear weapons and other technological ideas that should keep us 'safe' as a planet. Indeed this is only the movies but if NASA really could stop an impact - would they? The more i think about this and the more i look into it, the quicker i come to the conclusion that - No they wouldnt tell a soul, not until it was too late.

I am going to urge people to take ANY imformation recieved from the NASA / JPL group 'with a pinch of salt.' After the TU24 caused major web meltdowns - they found a source of 'scare tactics' that work very well indeed. I have added a link to a website that dedicates its time into de-bunking any mis-information released in relation to space. I hope everyone who reads this would agree that NASA are not the most 'trustworthy' of sources for information nowadays - look at their heirarchy of staff and its pretty conclusive the mojority of 'important personel' in the NASA group were ex-nazis!

So everyone at ATS i urge you to sit back and not to worry too much of these 'space threats' - the only worry of things coming out of the sky anytime soon will be Americas muti-million dollar spy sattelite but good luck finding any peices left after impact!

Heres teh link: www.badastronomy.com...

Peace To You All



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 10:12 AM
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if we are going to get more and more of these it could portend coming of planet x or something similar



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 11:08 AM
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I am going to urge people to take ANY imformation recieved from the NASA / JPL group 'with a pinch of salt.' After the TU24 caused major web meltdowns - they found a source of 'scare tactics' that work very well indeed. I have added a link to a website that dedicates its time into de-bunking any mis-information released in relation to space. I hope everyone who reads this would agree that NASA are not the most 'trustworthy' of sources for information nowadays - look at their heirarchy of staff and its pretty conclusive the mojority of 'important personel' in the NASA group were ex-nazis!


This paragraph caught my eye for a particular reason. Mainly because NASA / JPL groups did NOT start the "scare tactics" - people did!!! Uneducated or unaware people at that. NASA NEVER stated that this object was an imminent threat nor did they give us any misinformation. Badastronomy.com is a very good website - but they don't have near the amount of information JPL and NASA provide. Both of these programs have endless websites dedicated to real time observations of our universe, solar system, you name it. Without these programs we would have little or no understanding of whats going on right now. Just because these programs are backed by government funding does not mean that they have people working for them that aren't honest and trustworthy. I really think your statements are a slap in the face to NASA's employees. Even the creator of badastronomy.com does not criticize NASA's programs nor its research - he only criticizes the administrative part (which I think we can all agree on).

Sorry to take such a hard line in defense of them, but I don't like opinions without reasons. That paragraph had little legitimacy and proves that people choose to believe what they want, not whats in front of them. And your last sentence is just flabbergasting. Why make such a claim with no evidence? I hope you can come to your senses here.

No wonder the government keeps information from us - look at how we acted when we're told an asteroid will make a flyby, dear lord help us. I'm ashamed such hatred is brought toward working people like you and I - just because they work for the government.



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 11:47 AM
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We are relatively new at trying to track objects in space and identify potential serious impact events. We have only became recently aware of how many large objects are circling the sun in close orbit with our planet.
Anyone expecting information more accurate than what we get from the weather channel is deluded.

After millions of years in our current orbit, you have to figure that most of the things that are going to hit us already have. Of course there are those objects in less stable orbits and those are most likely to be what we need to worry about the most, and then there is the occasional collision in space that changes the orbit of some large object, and like pool balls on a table, many things get knocked around for awhile. You have to figure that comet collision with Jupiter might send a few balls our way, but even then, the odds are pretty slim.

Apparently these types of near misses with 100 foot diameter asteroids is fairly common, and always has been. Being that history hasn't recorded alot of asteroid strikes, and I am referring to mans recorded history, it obviously is not a regular occurrence for an large asteroid strike.

It is kind of fun to read about.



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 01:03 PM
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Here is the orbit diagram for the newest one that was "discovered" yesterday. This is BE15 not to be confused with BC 15. As I said earlier this one was discovered and will be at its closest point to earth on February 4th. Unlike Tu24, BC15 and now BE15 were discovered and then at their closest point to earth in a matter of days. I wonder if we are going to keep getting these from now forward. Hopefully not too close though..........

Here is the orbit diagram for asteroid 2008 BE15 (incoming):
ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...

And here is the orbit diagram for 2008 BC15 (outgoing):
ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...

Thanks again for the input.

Mo-out



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 01:41 PM
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Anyone wonder if some alien race with an odd asteroid shooting weapon is trying real hard to kill us all?
Just a thought...



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 02:50 PM
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You my friend know so little. I put the post as a guide as many people do not really know alot about cosmology, the universe and the NASA / JPL group etc. I can assure you that ANY information i provide is as honest as i can write it. Im not going to sit here and debate with you because i simply know more than you. Therefore just to prove to you that i do not provide 'opinions without reasons' i will give you a brief history into the REAL NASA / JPL group so that you may see that it is you who needs to 'come to your senses.'

First: Humbertus Strughold - Director of Space Medicine NACA (NASA precursor if your wondering)
Nazi

Second: James Webb - NASA Administrator at Washington, DC - Mason

Third: Kenneth S Klienkenecht - Director of projects Mercury, Gemini and Apollo - Mason

Fourth: Theodore Von Karman - Director GALCTI / JPL - Unsure but part of a Secret Society

Fith: Werner Von Braun - Director Marshall Spaceflight Center - Nazi

Sixth: Kurt Debus - Director of Johnson Space Center Cape Canveral - Nazi

And the majority of their 'Top' Astronauts were Masons (Check press photos for the ring!)

I took these from several reliable and different sources. I recommend Richard Hoaglands, Dark Mission book for some basic information. Now these are some of the people you defend? So yes - i will have my slap at NASA and for very good reason it would seem!



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 04:12 PM
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are aliens firing asteroids at us?
i think these asteroids are there due to other cicumstances--the question i would ask is ---why should/would anyone care about saving such wretches as us that pollute our home world----standing knee deep in our own garbage launching probes into space---how many other worlds are we going to pollute if we can get there?why would they want us in our present state of not knowing how to change our own diapers?



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 05:11 PM
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You think that's close? Try this past Christmas Eve, 2007, when an asteroid passed 10 Times Closer to Earth than the Moon's Orbit. These things happens more often than you realize. Earth is bombarded every single minute, every single day, with space rocks. Just go out to the country, or onboard a ship in the ocean draped pure black by night, and you will see meteors pass overheard every few seconds.

Most of these asteroids are either small enough they would break up on entry into Earth's Atmosphere, or their trajectory is already mapped out and we know they will miss. I remember one back in '85 or '86 was a huge one though and passed VERY close by, yet many people have forgotten about it.

BTW, referring to NASA as all ex-Nazis is a real cheap shot, and a low blow. It is an Agency that has historically been full of the greatest minds put together under one roof. It is not the only lab or group to have brilliant minded individuals, but it sure is one of the largest. I say groups such as NASA, Bell Labs, and many others deserve a great amount of respect for the amazing accomplishments they have achieved.

[edit on 2-1-2008 by TheAgentNineteen]



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 05:23 PM
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Here's an interesting article talking about the difference between a relatively harmless, dangerous, and very dangerous asteroid:
When do Asteroids Turn Dangerous?

I've seen my share of meteor showers, but I remember in the very early 80s, maybe 1980, I was up at a rural lake area in northern Washington at an outdoor party and saw an absolutely HUGE fireball cross the sky. It clearly landed, but not anywhere near us. Was all over the news the next day that a meteor landed. It was truly an amazing site. I wonder how large that one was, as it clearly did no major damage.



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 06:39 PM
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*cough* *cough* disinformist *cough*
You must be working for the man. How much did they pay you buddy?



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by The_Watchers
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You my friend know so little. I put the post as a guide as many people do not really know alot about cosmology, the universe and the NASA / JPL group etc. I can assure you that ANY information i provide is as honest as i can write it. Im not going to sit here and debate with you because i simply know more than you. Therefore just to prove to you that i do not provide 'opinions without reasons' i will give you a brief history into the REAL NASA / JPL group so that you may see that it is you who needs to 'come to your senses.'

First: Humbertus Strughold - Director of Space Medicine NACA (NASA precursor if your wondering)
Nazi

Second: James Webb - NASA Administrator at Washington, DC - Mason

Third: Kenneth S Klienkenecht - Director of projects Mercury, Gemini and Apollo - Mason

Fourth: Theodore Von Karman - Director GALCTI / JPL - Unsure but part of a Secret Society

Fith: Werner Von Braun - Director Marshall Spaceflight Center - Nazi

Sixth: Kurt Debus - Director of Johnson Space Center Cape Canveral - Nazi

And the majority of their 'Top' Astronauts were Masons (Check press photos for the ring!)

I took these from several reliable and different sources. I recommend Richard Hoaglands, Dark Mission book for some basic information. Now these are some of the people you defend? So yes - i will have my slap at NASA and for very good reason it would seem!


I still have no clue what your sources are? Nor do you hyperlink ANYTHING (let alone credible sources) so that others can follow this little debate? Excellent defense! Oh and your Richard Hoagland "source" isn't even worth acknowledging - why don't YOU read up on him from YOUR website that you defended. Badastronomy.com tore this liar up...

www.badastronomy.com...

And as far as your claim that NASA is using scare tactics, why didn't you defend yourself there?

Let's not shift this conversation entirely, because there are two points I'm criticizing you on. First, your claim that NASA uses scare tactics. Second, your claim that high ranking NASA employees are ex-nazi's. You have yet to provide any solid CREDIBLE proof of either of these. Don't withold vital information for your own defense! I'm curious to be educated here... since you know so much more than me.



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteWash
Anyone wonder if some alien race with an odd asteroid shooting weapon is trying real hard to kill us all?
Just a thought...


Anything is possible, but I think that if aliens had that kind of technology, they would have hit us by now. This activity could be normal, but I wonder if it is being caused by some kind of cosmic disturbance. there could have been a huge asteroid that hit the meteor belt between jupiter and mars and it could be making its way to our planet. who knows.



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 07:10 PM
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The great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea you speak of is a county, Thats why it turn the ocean to blood ( China ) . Mountains are used in this book to show powerful nations. Thats why it says later that a star burning would fall from heaven. ( The comet wormwood )If the mountain burning came from space John would say it looked as a star.



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 08:38 PM
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I don't know if anyone has already posted with this idea or not. Sorry if they did but here goes anyways.

I wonder if the reason why we are seeing so much asteroid activity is because someone wants a new space race to begin. Since there are no more enemies to fight that can achieve space flight (other than the chinese perhaps) there must be a new threat to kick it all off.

Why a space race you ask? Well if you think about it there could be a couple of reasons.

1. The planet is becoming overpopulated and we need a means of mass outward travel to the stars to relieve strain on our planetary infrastructures and to speed up the development of technology and eventually to colonize other planets. Perhaps they are figuring out that if we start now by the time we reach the tipping point of overpopulation we will have the technology at our disposal to create the population disbursement to the stars.

2. There really could be a threat and it needs to be dealt with and we really can't do anything about it currently but it is possible if an interest arises now.

3. There really is a secret space program and with all the recent interest about the program and more people waking up to the idea, the governments have decided to slowly bring us up to speed in a nice, stealthy fasion. This is so when the cat is out of the bag they will have an excuse as to why secret space staitions are already floating in space. All they have to say is "Well we knew the whole time and just didn't want to alarm anyone yet". A nice easy way to save face in the last minute rather than be caught with their pants down.

Any of these reasons could be valid or perhaps all of them. Who knows but if a heavy interest in space arises in the next few years i guess we will know why.

What do you think?



posted on Feb, 1 2008 @ 10:27 PM
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Well it seems that its already beginning. I was just watching family guy on a timeshifted station that was probably playing in the west coast and they showed a military recruitment commercial trying to convince people to join the military space program. It claimed that they launch several rockets into space each month and make double the progress that NASA does.

I don't have a link just yet but im trying to find one. Ill get back soon with one.



posted on Feb, 2 2008 @ 10:28 AM
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Confucius is famed for saying: "There are three methods to gaining wisdom. The first is reflection, which is the highest. The second is imitation, which is the easiest. The third is experience, which is the bitterest."

I've devoted my life to finding real truth. I would highly recommend you do the same. Live a little, see whats really out there. Good luck with the next few years my friend, il pray for you!



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