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IS the Moon Split in HALF?

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posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 05:16 PM
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If you give more weight to the words of the scientist than you give to God's words you are in plain error. God is sufficient witness. he is knower of the unseen and all knowledge belongs to Him. He makes known to man what he wills and nothing in the Heavens or in the earth is hidden from him.

The moon was split asunder, the moon was split in two, the moon is rent in twain...that was plain speaking from God. The moon 1400 years ago was split in half, whether you believe it or not won't change the fact. NASA images or not, Muslims believe it because it is God's words and God's words are Truth.

Read the Holy Qur'an and come back here if you find A LIE. Bring your proof that it is a lie.

004.082 Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an ? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity.

003.003 He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.

002.023 And if ye are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a surah of the like thereof, and call your witness beside Allah if ye are truthful.




posted on Sep, 17 2008 @ 05:53 PM
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paladom,

Everything that God wants man to know is in the Holy Qur'an, all that his soul needs to be saved. But man is forever transgressing his limits and seek to defy God his Creator.

As for the Scientific knowledge mentioned in the Holy Qur'an there is more here:

www.evidencesofcreation.com...

The Holy Qur'an confirms Science,and Science confirms the Holy Qur'an, modern Scientists and doctors convert to Islam after coming face to face with the Truth contained in the Holy Qur'an.

Many Christians, Jews, Hindus, Atheist convert to Islam after reading the Holy Qur'an.

www.muslimconverts.com...

Their common reason: They have no choice but to convert to Islam and embrace God's religion after reading and understanding the Holy Qur'an.

Peace!



posted on Sep, 18 2008 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by queenofangels_17
NASA footages just confirmed what the people at the time of the prophet Muhammad knew, and what all Muslims know, that indeed the moon was split in half.


I guess you missed the part above that says:

There is no scientific evidence what so ever that the moon split! Suggesting that the MANY riles on the moon are emprical evidence to suggest that the moon did split, is as stupid as me suggesting that the grand canyon in the US is emprical evidence that the earth did split.

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Its worth noting that that longest rile is ONLY 300 km. it does NOT extend the entire way around the moon, and riles exist in pretty much all rocky planets! Earth has riles as well...



The most important part is bolded above.

The riles DO NOT extend around the moon, therefore the riles cannot be evidence that the moon was split!

God damn organized religion, you believe a book is the word of God because the author said so. Talk about being lead by the horns...



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by InSpiteOf

The riles DO NOT extend around the moon, therefore the riles cannot be evidence that the moon was split!



Have there been pictures from the other side? How can you say that the riles does not extend there?

The NASA photograph will serve to confirm to DISBELIEVERS only, but I guess if the disbelievers at the time of the Prophet Muhammad did not believe even when they saw it with their own eyes, what more the Disbelievers of today?


Originally posted by InSpiteOf
God damn organized religion, you believe a book is the word of God because the author said so. Talk about being lead by the horns...


We believe in the Holy Qur'an as the Words of God because God is the AUTHOR. NOT MAN who can make mistakes and is fallible. The UNSEEN belongs only to God, and HE is the only One who can tell mankind of the Unseen if it is His will to do so.

The SPLITTING of the moon in half is One of the signs of the HOUR. There are some tidings of the unknown there of what the faith of the disbelievers in God's revelations will be on that Day.

www.sacred-texts.com...

027.065 Say (O Muhammad): None in the heavens and the earth knoweth the Unseen save Allah; and they know not when they will be raised (again).



posted on Sep, 26 2008 @ 07:59 AM
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The Moon was never split in half and Father Christmas does not come down every chimney simultaneously.

How can you seriously expect people to believe this rubbish?

As rational beings we must use our brains. Is there any evidence to the claims of Muhammad or other so called prophets?  There is none.

You are providing a post hoc, ergo propter hoc explanation for cherry-picked translations of the Quran.
For your premise to be valid, you need to show where the Quran is correct and science is wrong.

People who believe Nostradamus also do a similar trick with language to assume "proof". Their methods, as yours, are specious.

The so-called 'scientific' Quran has been debunked many times over already.

The miracles themselves, are not specific at all, what clerics do is re-interpret the Quran to fit modern day discoveries.

EXTRAORDINARY CLAIMS REQUIRE EXTRAORDINARY EVIDENCE.

The fact that the Quran is NOT used as a reference by the world's leading scientists in any field is evident that the Quran is WORTHLESS in science.

A real prophecy is when the one whose prophecy predicts a totally unlikely event or future science, For example :

"Disease is not caused by devils or demons but by real living creatures too small to see."



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 03:20 AM
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We do believe that Jesus turned water into wine or walked on water. Right? Although no material, concrete prove is around us. So why story of Mohammad is fake, unreal, myth? Why do u pple have double standards even in religion? I do believe in Jesus' miracles as much as I believe in Mohammad's because all prophets were links between God and us. Stop turning relation with God into a silly competition. You are all believers but you do't act like that. Shame on u! :S



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by Zedda Piras
reply to post by queenofangels_17
 



The Moon was never split in half and Father Christmas does not come down every chimney simultaneously.

How can you seriously expect people to believe this rubbish?

As rational beings we must use our brains. Is there any evidence to the claims of Muhammad or other so called prophets?  There is none.

You are providing a post hoc, ergo propter hoc explanation for cherry-picked translations of the Quran.
For your premise to be valid, you need to show where the Quran is correct and science is wrong.

People who believe Nostradamus also do a similar trick with language to assume "proof". Their methods, as yours, are specious.

The so-called 'scientific' Quran has been debunked many times over already.

The miracles themselves, are not specific at all, what clerics do is re-interpret the Quran to fit modern day discoveries.

EXTRAORDINARY CLAIMS REQUIRE EXTRAORDINARY EVIDENCE.

The fact that the Quran is NOT used as a reference by the world's leading scientists in any field is evident that the Quran is WORTHLESS in science.

A real prophecy is when the one whose prophecy predicts a totally unlikely event or future science, For example :

"Disease is not caused by devils or demons but by real living creatures too small to see."


Excellent post!


I've often noticed people with an overt religious agenda attempting to shoehorn and superimpose their fantastical (and sometimes fanatical ) beleifs on science only to then claim that this somehow proves or validates something.

The abrahamic mythologies are positively littered with wild eyed accounts of talking animals,flying horses,witches,wizards,demons,magical trees,sticks turning into snakes etc..
If a person just wants to mindlessly accept this magical realism as
'actual phenomena' then good for them - just don't attempt to forcefully impose it on everybody else as 'fact' whilst abusing science in the process.

If it wasn't for the values of scientific objectivity and dispassionate rational analysis no doubt we would still be
wallowing around in the Dark ages embracing fearful ignorance and just unquestioningly accepting tales like these from 'all' the agenda based religious sects/cults.


[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]



posted on Dec, 30 2008 @ 04:17 AM
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The Moon was never split in half and Father Christmas does not come down every chimney simultaneously.

Go file a lawsuit against them


How can you seriously expect people to believe this rubbish? < - -

As rational beings we must use our brains. Is there any evidence to the claims of Muhammad or other so called prophets? There is none.

-As rational beings we must use our brains and use science and what science proves right. Check the number of scientists worldwide who use their brain, they got PhDs, and check how many of them are converting on a yearly basis. Scientists are so bright, intellectuals, smart, but the moment they convert to Islam after studying the scientific miracles about it, they become stupid and they don’t use their brains.
True True.. You are making sense.

You are providing a post hoc, ergo propter hoc explanation for cherry-picked translations of the Quran.
For your premise to be valid, you need to show where the Quran is correct and science is wrong.

"Where do they contradict each other"?

Why are women abroad converting to Islam? Anyone to force them? If they are forced why didn’t they go to their governments? Marriage, fine then something is wrong with your culture? Why pick Muslims over Non Muslims?? Or now women are stupid after they convert?
Why is your financial system failing? The Shariah Complaint system never failed since 1400 years ago. Communism and capitalism failed... Haven't you watched the news and checked the number of analysts demanding their governments to apply the Shariah system even if they don’t apply Islam?

Scientists majoring in many fields from anatomy to astronomy converted. Those are irrational and you are the rational. Right?

I bet you never ever read the Quran in an objective way. I bet you take its sentences word by word without even knowing the meaning of the event verses refer too.

Can't blame you for such a mentality, you should write a petition for universities to deprive PHD holders from their degree since after they convert to Islam and check that what they studied and explored in the 21st century is already found in the Quran 1400 years ago...

As a rational human being, I want to ask you a question, how did the world start
.

P.S: The Holy Quran has also mentioned people like you “they see the truth in their eyes and yet they deny it” :-)



posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 12:35 PM
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no its not true that only muslims witnessed the witnessing of the moon being split but many non-muslims witnessed it too!!!!!!



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 12:54 AM
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The Moon was never split in half and Father Christmas does not come down every chimney simultaneously.

Go file a lawsuit against them


How can you seriously expect people to believe this rubbish? < - -

As rational beings we must use our brains. Is there any evidence to the claims of Muhammad or other so called prophets? There is none.

-As rational beings we must use our brains and use science and what science proves right. Check the number of scientists worldwide who use their brain, they got PhDs, and check how many of them are converting on a yearly basis. Scientists are so bright, intellectuals, smart, but the moment they convert to Islam after studying the scientific miracles about it, they become stupid and they don’t use their brains.
True True.. You are making sense.

You are providing a post hoc, ergo propter hoc explanation for cherry-picked translations of the Quran.
For your premise to be valid, you need to show where the Quran is correct and science is wrong.

"Where do they contradict each other"?

Why are women abroad converting to Islam? Anyone to force them? If they are forced why didn’t they go to their governments? Marriage, fine then something is wrong with your culture? Why pick Muslims over Non Muslims?? Or now women are stupid after they convert?
Why is your financial system failing? The Shariah Complaint system never failed since 1400 years ago. Communism and capitalism failed... Haven't you watched the news and checked the number of analysts demanding their governments to apply the Shariah system even if they don’t apply Islam?

Scientists majoring in many fields from anatomy to astronomy converted. Those are irrational and you are the rational. Right?

I bet you never ever read the Quran in an objective way. I bet you take its sentences word by word without even knowing the meaning of the event verses refer too.

Can't blame you for such a mentality, you should write a petition for universities to deprive PHD holders from their degree since after they convert to Islam and check that what they studied and explored in the 21st century is already found in the Quran 1400 years ago...

As a rational human being, I want to ask you a question, how did the world start
.

P.S: The Holy Quran has also mentioned people like you “they see the truth in their eyes and yet they deny it”



posted on Jan, 6 2009 @ 07:17 AM
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Very well said.. Can you image the Moon split in 2? That would be breath taking!



posted on Jan, 6 2009 @ 07:45 AM
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no its not true that only muslims witnessed the witnessing of the moon being split but many non-muslims witnessed it too!!!!!!


Any objective sources for that quite fantastical claim of the moon magicaly splitting in half then reassembling itself (other than agenda based mythology websites) ?



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 12:43 PM
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for all those who don't beleive that the moon was splited
i can just tell you guys...that one day science will proove that moon was splited...and at this time i just wanna see your sad faces...

i can't just understand how much you'r making your mind and thoughts that tight !!
and you just beleiving on what sicentists 'who are human like you are' discovred at this time....dont you think that they could discover more than that in the next years !!??? scientist said that univers was created from BIG BANG...but now Oh OHhhh !!! sorry we mistook !!!!they discovered that univers is more older than BIG BANG

you can read this and make your minde more large tahn that...

seedmagazine.com...

www.space.com...

for now i dont have time to waste reading this stupid guys bla bla bla...



posted on May, 24 2011 @ 07:58 AM
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Please!

I've read just about every single logical fallacy there is from the Muslims trying to defend these claims. Ad hominem tu quoque, argument from incredulity, no true Scotsman, strawman etc etc.

The ONLY thing these photos prove is that there are rilles on the moon.

Aside from the enormous forces, the time it would take and the simple fact that it DID NOT HAPPEN the whole idea holds as much weight as Mohammed flying to heaven and back on a magic unicorn.

Please people, we're not primitive desert shepherds anymore who need supernatural explanations for natural events and there is no need for people to believe in myths and fairytales.



posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 11:47 PM
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LOL with all our scientific data and knowledge of physics this question is still asked. Knowledge comes to those that seek it. The moon only appeared to have split. Get a map of the moon and note a young crater in the far southwest. About 30N & 10W you can see the blast lines @ 45deg from center. Given the physics deep with a blob caldera the impact was @ a high angle heavy object. The blast lines reached 40+ degrees north. The shadow of blasted matter would have made the moon appear to have split.



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