Iraq conflict has killed a MILLION people: Study, page 3

Originally posted by BlueRaja
reply to post by Conspiriology

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If you consider the UN and World Health Organization estimates credible, then their figures are in the 100-250k range. Documented fatalities are under 100k.

The poll from 93 - present?

Originally posted by Griff

Originally posted by BlueRaja
If you consider the UN and World Health Organization estimates credible, then their figures are in the 100-250k range. Documented fatalities are under 100k.

How many did Saddam hang for again? A couple hundred?

You might want to add a few more zeros.


users.erols.com...

Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979-2003): 300 000
Human Rights Watch: "twenty-five years of Ba`th Party rule ... murdered or 'disappeared' some quarter of a million Iraqis" [www.hrw.org...]
8/9 Dec. 2003 AP: Total murders
New survey estimates 61,000 residents of Baghdad executed by Saddam.
US Government estimates a total of 300,000 murders
180,000 Kurds k. in Anfal
60,000 Shiites in 1991
50,000 misc. others executed
"Human rights officials" est.: 500,000
Iraqi politicians: over a million

reply to post by BlueRaja

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I ment what he was convicted for. Not what some US government agent has attributed to him.

Saddam Hussein and two co-defendants have been found guilty of murder and crimes against humanity, and sentenced to death by hanging over the 1982 killings of 148 people in the Iraqi town of Dujail.

abcnews.go.com...


[edit on 1/30/2008 by Griff]

reply to post by Griff

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Which source would the government agent be- Human Rights Watch?

Originally posted by BlueRaja
users.erols.com...

Nice current source.

Last Updated: 25 March 2003

reply to post by Griff

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I guess every government, intel agency, etc.. were full of it too, prior to US forces entering Iraq, including many who are outspoken against the war.

reply to post by Griff

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Psssst, what year did the US enter Iraq? So.........Saddam's killing would've occurred earlier than that right.

reply to post by BlueRaja

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Basically...yes. Don't go to war with unverified "intellegence"...trumped up "intellegence"...etc.

Makes you look like a fool when you are wrong.

reply to post by Griff

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All intel has potential for error, and many times the only way to verify is in person. As I said, all the major governments and intel agencies believed it to be accurate, as did many outspoken critics of the war.

Originally posted by BlueRaja
reply to post by Griff

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All intel has potential for error, and many times the only way to verify is in person. As I said, all the major governments and intel agencies believed it to be accurate, as did many outspoken critics of the war.

Nobody believed it except brainwashed americans.

Are you trying to disinform us or do you really believe the stupid things you write ?


[edit on 30-1-2008 by ergoli]

Originally posted by BlueRaja

Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979-2003): 300 000
Human Rights Watch: "twenty-five years of Ba`th Party rule ... murdered or 'disappeared' some quarter of a million Iraqis" [www.hrw.org...]
8/9 Dec. 2003 AP: Total murders
New survey estimates 61,000 residents of Baghdad executed by Saddam.
US Government estimates a total of 300,000 murders
180,000 Kurds k. in Anfal
60,000 Shiites in 1991
50,000 misc. others executed
"Human rights officials" est.: 500,000
Iraqi politicians: over a million

one thing Americans don't talk about: the lives of Iraqis, or, rather, the deaths of Iraqis.

Your own article says it all pal

When the Iraqi government was using chemical weapons against Iranian troops in the 1980s, the Reagan administration was giving it intelligence information. After the Anfal genocide against Iraqi Kurds in 1988, the Reagan and first Bush administrations gave Baghdad billions of dollars in commodity credits and import loan guarantees. The Iraqi government’s ruthless suppression of the 1991 uprising was facilitated by the first Bush administration’s agreement to Iraq’s use of helicopters – permission made all the more callous because then-President Bush had encouraged the uprising in the first place.

War has wiped out about 655,000 Iraqis or more than 500 people a day since the U.S.-led invasion, Violence including gunfire and bombs caused the majority of deaths but thousands of people died from worsening health and environmental conditions directly related to the conflict that began in 2003, U.S. and Iraqi public health researchers said.

it was Bush's destruction of the secular Iraqi state that unleashed the sectarian strife.

Moreover, American troops in Iraq have killed more civilians than insurgents. The US military in Iraq has fallen for every bit of disinformation fed to it by Al Qaeda personnel posing as "informants" and by Sunnis setting up Shi'ites and Shi'ites setting up Sunnis. As a result, American bombs and missiles have blown up weddings, funerals, kids playing soccer, and people shopping in bazaars and sleeping in their homes.

- Con

Originally posted by ergoli

Originally posted by BlueRaja
reply to post by Griff

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All intel has potential for error, and many times the only way to verify is in person. As I said, all the major governments and intel agencies believed it to be accurate, as did many outspoken critics of the war.

Nobody believed it except brainwashed americans.

Are you trying to disinform us or do you really believe the stupid things you write ?


[edit on 30-1-2008 by ergoli]

Your country please. I noticed that you don't list a location. Why is that? Ashamed?

We may need to start a thread to discuss any and all of the errors in judgement and other mistakes made by your current and past governments.

[edit on 1/30/2008 by centurion1211]

reply to post by centurion1211

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No one said Saddam was a good guy. He was a tyrant and like the rest of them a very evil man.

That does not justify our actions today. No matter what.

If we want to pretend like we're doing the Iraqis a favor here, why don't we leave and let the people of Iraq decide which direction their country is going?

Bushie keeps coming up with new excuses as to why we should be there.

First it was the WMDs, then it was freeing the people of Iraq from Saddam, then it was this and that and this and that...

When it comes down to a few factors: We want Iraq's oil. Cheney wanted to build a pipeline through Afghanistan and the only way to do so was invade both countries.

These people are criminals (our 'fearless leaders') and yet people still seem to be able to defend them without a second thought.

What purpose does murdering innocent civilians serve in your little 'world peace' scheme?

How do they fit in?

Does bombing Iraqi cities give you pleasure? Do you get off from their suffering?

Why are we still there then? Do you honestly give a # about the Iraqi people? I don't think you do nor anyone else saying we should 'Stay the Course.'

If you really cared about people, our own soldiers included, you would want them away from unnecessary conflict as much as possible.

However, it seems you do in fact love to see death on a daily basis.

Good for you.

I won't trade humanity for patriotism my friend, but I guess you've already sold on that idea.

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