The Case for Retiredafb has been largely "debunked" on ATS (here or here).

This new amateur video of the moon published on Youtube by astronomer Zackak seems to offer some interesting clue about what could be the famous spaceship William Rutledge aka Retiredafb claims to have explored along with astronauts Leonov and Snyder aboard secret US/USSR mission Apollo XX (Apollo/Soyouz secret mission widely "debunked" as so throughout the all www so far) - and other devices that could be fairly related to William Rutledge story (City or whatever).

At least three objects can be clearly identified as ODD, WEIRD, if not obviously NON-JUST-ROCKY-MOONY.

Let's put it straight :

1. Retiredafb's Spaceship (if not a Giant Carot)
2. A Tower or some Radar Device (If not a Lunar Pole Dancer caught in da move)
3. What I called, in a first semi-comical, learologic ATS presentation of this very document, a Circus on the Moon (if not a Giant Conic Geological Formation)

So, if any ATS moon specialist can identify this region and compare it with Retiredafb's datas :



... well, it'll be a giant step for humanity and a bigger one for the entire universe.


Zackak's Video is there




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View of the set at 1:40 with some overexposure effect as appearing in the vid.

Compare with Retiredafb William Rutledge video datas...

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I have signed up to ATS just to let you all know that Retiredafb has two new videos at www.revver.com. He has left YouTube - he says that he has to many problems there because YouTube never answers his questions. He has also promised that more stuff, the most important videos, will come soon at www.revver.com.
Go and have a look. I am still willing to have an open mind about this stuff. It doesn't seem like Retiredafb is seeking either fame nor money, so what would his motives be if he is just a fake?

That's insane. Where, oh where do you see a Tower, a Pyramid and a platoon of reptilians jumping up and down, on that still pic?

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www.youtube.com...

I watched the video and I couldn't see jack. Just craters, as one would expect. Do you see any structures at all thre?

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there is also a longer verion if you check zackak profile

I am very open minded about william rutledges videos, i remember hearing an interview with him last year, i cannot remember where the site i heard it on is but will endevour to find it, i have some old nasa press releases where there is no mention of him in the apollo program so i need to get that confirmed first, does anyone have a link or information as to wether he was part of the original military or Nasa programs?

I think tere is something to his story im just not sure it is as much as he claims, would be fantastic if it was, would be the story of the century if it was.

There is a pagoda shaped structure apparent in that film and the round ' craters ' were too perfect and placed too well; they look like ponds or holding areas for water, etc. It is a terraced area, with all the looks of some oriental village. Nice find!

I predict that as more and more people get big telescopes and train them on the moon, we will begin to see lots of evidence of civilization remnants become too common to ignore any more, and then the de facto announcement will happen and that will be that.

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The interview with William Rutledge can be found at www.angelismarriti.it. There you can also read some other interesting and infomative stuff about the subject. The website belongs to an italian guy named Luca Scantamburlo.

Fine to see that some people still look forward about Retiredafb's testimony.



The Carot/Spaceship could just be an optic effect due to some crater - but it'd have to be very deep. The overexposed view in the original footage seems to argue in favour of the spaceship hypothesis.

The Pole-Dancer/Tower obviously offers a very high, vertical structure that cannot be explained by any sort of mirage : the landscape there is seen in the limits of the horizon, and the chance these "verticalities" be random is rather thin... Same remark about the Circus/Pagode.



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Anyhow John's take on this footage, as well as about the entire Retiredafb's story, is still welcome.

Come on John, - don't be shy.



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its kinda right there lol

you aren't looking at the right things or are you?

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I've looked at this enough for my eyes to start hurting, and yet there is no sign of accursed starcruisers and/or reptilian platoons downing stout on the surface of the Moon.

i red semi-boxed the area that SHOULD be of interest to people

i see the stuff near the shadows, but deal, that can be w/e but my screen caps show something casting a shadow no?

looks like a building casting a long shadow as the light source is low

Another member cross-posted this topic to JL's moon pics thread.

The shadow casted by the gigantic "structure" (which appears to be the main intent of this hoax vid) does not match the sunlight direction and shadows in the surrounding craters... not even close.

good post Zarniwoop

when you look at it later on it looks like maybe there is a wall/fence forming a shadow going the correct way, the way the other shadows are going?

why do you call it a hoax vid? has it been proven to be a hoax?

One more time for our self-blinding friends :




A Carot. A Pole Dancer. A Circus. All that on the moon.

Santa Courvoisier please help me !

John ! Come on !

Yep (good catch). Upon second glance, it does appear that a ridge could indeed be creating the shadow in the appropriate sunlight direction... which would also rule out the case for the huge structure, now without a huge shadow to acompany it.



Perhaps "hoax" was too strong of a word. This person may believe there was a structure there. I still think its a hoax (IMHO) involving a still image, a handycam, and some blurring techniques to simulate the earth's atmospheric distortion.



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