Originally posted by Silenceisall
There are the angry N.W.O. posters, who have bought the Alex Jones theory hook line and sinker. If you dare post anything that questions the N.W.O. hypothesis they put you on their enemy list and call you a traitor.

Who say's we're angry? We're just patiently observing the decimation of our country's constitution and our economy, our world reputation, etc. If we are plenty angry, it is at the people who refuse to listen (i.e. your 'traitors') and hey, as human beings who give a damn about this earth, that's our duty.

Not everything is a conspiracy theory. I certainly scoff to be mentioned in the same paragraph as reptilian theorists etc.

I also believe calling Alex Jones a hack in order to discredit a widely-researched and popular political subject is a bit hokey. There are plenty of accredited sources of information on the N.W.O. to classify it as mainstream. The world IS run by a cabal of the same people and same positions of power, to claim otherwise is to be in open denial.

[edit on 1-2-2008 by NewWorldOver]

Great thread. I do get a tingle when I hear a conspiracy theory. I love to talk about these, and that's one reason why I joined ATS. I'm not of the opinion that this fervor tarnishes my ability to recognize fact from fiction, but I'll cede the point that a little self-questioning is a healthy thing.

I, too, get exasperated when threads degenerate into NWO or end-of-days rants. Both of these issues are fascinating but they tend to bring out very emotive responses. Debate takes a backseat to diatribe.

Fortunately there are numerous other posts running that may occupy my time.

I love to post my thoughts in the hopes that I may pursuade someone to my perspective. Likewise, I am open to hearing opposing viewpoints and would think that I could be made to change my opinion in the face of solid arguments.

If I had one complaint it would be that too many posters state their opinions with far too many pre-conceived notions, whether about how government works, or who's pulling the strings, or what really happened when...Some of the best threads are those that force us to reexamine our dogmatic beliefs. Anything that encourages us to question our fundamental tenants is a powerful gift. Despite some tendencies toward badgering, I think the ATS boards are both fun and challenging environments that foster free-thinking.

Very glad I joined the community.

Thanks.

I've only been in the forum for a week or so, but I think I will begin to utilize the 'Friend' feature, as it allows me to single out posters who write well-constructed, thoughtful posts.

I love scouring the forums for good content, but knowing I can reach some favored thinkers at the click of a button is a handy-dandy tool.

if anything, ATS has killed my passion for conspiracy theories and etc. which is ironic (at least I think so).

I mean, once I saw all the politics involved with promoting / supressing various conspiracies, I realized that even the "top conspiracy" site was just as blemished with biased moderation as any other site online, including randi.org, foxnews.com and anything else you might care to mention.

I'm sure my wife woul love to give some anecdotal evidence about conspiracy addiction. LOL

I this to me is #1 entertainment. I've seen to many predictions come and pass with nothing happen to buy into those. The 9-11 stuff goes to quickly from the possible to the downright bizarre that there has got to be some active disinfo there. I don't even refere people who have doubts about 9-11 to conspiracy sites anymore, they start seeing stuff like holograms and lasers and immediately turn off all openess to alternative theories. Aliens, if they exist, would let us know if they wanted us to no matter what our governments wanted us to know.

I have been known at times to take a sabbatical from here for weeks and months just to clear my head of it all.

Originally posted by Silenceisall

Originally posted by 1nelove

You did something similar with
"Does the thought of uncovering the secret conspiracies in the world give you a nice little tingle? If so you may be a conspiracy addict"
That is quite ridiculous to say this so absolutely. *I'm also aware of the appearance of me seemingly defending a similar charateristic in me..but I really cannot allow myself to care about that garbage.*


I can come up with much better assertians than that based on the question..but really, I would have it based on something, and I understand it can vary person to person why these feelings of sensation can result from uncovering apparant truth in big issues: so I don't believe this is a legitimate question at all.

It's very simple to me. If you get off on conspiracies, if they literally give you a rush, then that is something you need to look at. If you, for example, have a theory about Alpha Draconians and the NWO enslavement of mankind, and it excites you on some level and repulses you on another, then you need to look at your intentions. Are you feeding an addiction and side-stepping proper logic and common sense in order to satisfy your addiction? If you have such a theory and are just plain terrified, and there is noting "fun" about plotting it out in your head, then I would say you do not have a conspiracy addiction.

[edit on 1-2-2008 by Silenceisall]

That is very simple indeed. It making reference to reality is a whole other question.

The variables involved, between the root intention/drive and the resulting feeling, absolutely (I can say that since it's in conflict with an absolution) makes this a generalized, simple and primitive statement. Your brain is much more equipped than that. Don't feed it selfishly, make it work more.
The variables involved also determine the result generated from the belief of uncovering a significant truth.

such black and white simplicity seems to suggest some sort of divinity within you right now doesnt it? It's not correct to by-pass such relavent circumstances that are involved and, as a whole, unique within each person.

Even though, I can see what your trying to say..and under specific circumstances I can see how this assertion can be correct: I would never generate an absolution on it because it's inherently wrong.
I agree every person should ask themselves if these beliefs aren't for the purpose of self-satisfaction as opposed to logic or truth. But what if the person is one of many who feel satisfied when they uncover the truth? It's so easy to come up with scenarios that make this "formula" useless..but that's a given based on the physical nature you used to describe a truth.
The only possible truth that can be taken from your statement is that everyone is physically the same..which is not true...of course.

One can't even attribute root cause in others, and often themselves, to such wide-ranging and variable meaning of words for feelings like 'fun' or 'kick' or 'rush' or whatever. That's very difficult and can only be up to the person themselves in the end to figure out (which they may easily not). Then after they find the true root can they determine whether it's true to reality or not. Trying to describe the standard or smoking-gun behaviour of this is misleading, untruthful and detrimental.

I would be much more worried of people who have no good understanding of reality. These people are automatically not capable of using logic since they don't have the base for it.

The biggest issue with this site are people applying the logic of absolution towards five-sense/physical situations. I find it astonishing. Many of them are of scientific beliefs yet they inverse the ideas of the greatest scientific and philosophical minds. Now wonder they are often egotistical.
You can't find absolute truth within an illusion, only a variable reflection of one.


[edit on 4-2-2008 by 1nelove]

It may sound simplistic for you, but it is a starting point for self-analysis. Either way, evil conspiracies should never be fun to uncover--I stand by that. You are entitled to your op, however, and I thank you for posting it here.