Space Pioneer!
I was THERE, I KNOW what we have, and it's not Space Shuttle Technology. The present technology is at least 50 (FIFTY) years ahead
of the tax paying publics knowledge! But, then, what level is the tax public knowledge?? LOW, and that is being kind.
NASA was forced by Bill Clinto to place Dan Golden in as NASA Adminsitrator while I was at KSC! Does that jog anything in the readers mind?
I refer to the once great PEOPLE of the USA as SHEEPLE in a nation of MORONS!!
Many reading this have voted for Bush/Chaney, Clinton/Gore, Bush/Quail, etc. All are puppets doing the bidding of a shadow government that has TOTAL CONTROL over the US Senate, Congress, White House, Supreme Court AND the so-called Federal Reserve system or using its other name, the World Bank!
Take a guess WHO among the human race controls the World Bank??
Bush has a 91 IQ!! In fact, he is very close to being called a MORON! So, this nation of MORONS put another MORON in the White House!
We are being taught to hate the French nation! At least the brave French removed a corrupt King and his mistress and removed thier heads.
TREASON is RAMPANT in Washingtn, DC!

It is the job of the Shepherd to FLEECE the Sheeple...

Several TRILLION dollars of this FLEECING have been exposed and not a whimper from the Sheeple

And the Wolves continue to pray on them...



All is as it should be

LONG LIVE THE NWO

Or is it the OWO doing business as usual?

Originally posted by zorgon
It is the job of the Shepherd to FLEECE the Sheeple...

Going back to your old philosophy there, mate?

We came here with nuthin', and we put on a great show! Don't be pullin' out before da fat lady sings...

Originally posted by Matyas
We came here with nuthin', and we put on a great show! Don't be pullin' out before da fat lady sings...

Not going anywhere... meet me downstairs... next to Mulders office... there are some interesting people down here

Originally posted by rikriley
Hi Zorgon you are so right about the NWO

Well i want to know where to sign up.... I bet THEY have tickets to that Mars Shuttle

[edit on 4-2-2008 by zorgon]

Originally posted by Nohup

What's the real reason we suddenly stopped sending men to the moon? Who can answer that question?

"When we got to the moon, we found there was someone already there. And it was made clear to us that we could either leave, or we would be removed."""

It was incredibly dangerous and at the time they weighed risk vs reward and decided it wasn't worth it.

No money in it.
The cost of the program did not justify the value of the science.
The American public got bored with the Moon program. The U.S. beat the Russians, game over.
They also wanted the money spent on social welfare programs.
Nixon needed to cut the budget and hated JFK, and was happy to cancel JFK's pet program.

Anyway, the point is that there are plenty of simple, mundane, down-to-earth reasons why the lunar program was stopped. Congressional lobbyists were much more effective at keeping us off the moon than aliens.

LOLOL....even so.....no money in it.....after Nixon there was always the opportunity for the next president to start up the space program again or the next or the next etc.....it's taken 30 something years for bush....a Christian, someone who believes god spoke to him on the phone , that it is now a good idea to back to the moon..... obviously someone put it in his head...a influential person(s) this such person(s) also influenced leaders of China, India, Japan etc......anyone of these countries could have started their own space race during the 30 years gap and yet nothing......

The public had nothing to do with it, NASA was still able to send men into space during that 30 year gap, but just not to the moon? The amount of money needed to finance the moon program could have and still can easily be funded if you abort other missions…

Now we are going back to the moon because of helium three, why did it take 30 years to plan to go back if they got the helium three samples back in the 70’s…? As soon as they came back with the element in the 70’s the would have every reason to go back…. And if they didn’t know the moon had Helium three when they went to the moon in the 70’s….then how do they know now…..obviously they’ve either had the element for 30 years or have been there since….or they’ve been back to the moon in the 70 year gap possibly in the secret space program……Why did it take them 30 years to plan to go back to the moon….?

Prove me wrong…..

I like to use logic every so often….how about you…?


[edit on 5-2-2008 by andre18]

Originally posted by Nohup
No money in it.

No money in it? HE3/4 has plenty money. With that stuff on the Moon you could power the world for the next 1000 years. We have esoteric minerals/metals there like Platinum Group Metals, PGMs or PeGgyMaes, Titanium etc. And of course, the Apollo samples show that there are minerals abundant in the common lunar soil which are fairly easily processable to produce major quantities of fiberglass, ceramics, clear glasses, aluminum, calcium, iron, magnesium, titanium and chromium, as well as other materials -- the basic building blocks of space development.

But It's not the Moon anymore. The latest NASA plan entails landing man on asteroids instead!! Why? Because there's probably a top secret military program up and running already for the past 30 years or more. And they're likely mining the Moon of these exotic materials even as I type!!

The cost of the program did not justify the value of the science.

Cost? What cost are you implying? I thought you read enough to know how Black projects (Secret military programs and those run by the 'shadow' government) are funded? Not with tax payers money! (What a relief!!)

The American public got bored with the Moon program. The U.S. beat the Russians, game over.

Bored? I didn't! And probably there are millions like me! And you say the game between the Russians and Americans is over? I think not! They're in this together - probably from the 60s! So there's no 'game' going on where top secret Moon/Mars projects are concerned. It's a typical case of you-scratch-my-back-and-I'll-scratch-yours!! After all, sharing tech is a good thing, what?

They also wanted the money spent on social welfare programs.

Welfare programs? What? Is there such a thing??

Cheers!

If you stop and reflect back on all sorts of things that cropped up involving scams and short falls of various government programs, you can begin to see where and how money is diverted from one area to another.

Do you really believe that multiple millions of dollars just went missing from Iraqs banks and Sadams personal fortune? Do you believe that our military has "LOST" humvee's, trucks, jet's, heliocopters, supplies, equipment, and money since the Iraqi conflict started? or, just maybe, did the government and the military COOK the BOOKS regarding money and materials, to syphon off Billions of Dollars for other "Black Programs"?
The GAO hasn't been able to keep track of all the money the government spends. That is their sole purpose, but, they have failed in doing so. HUMM, do you suppose they are in on it too?

When I was in the AIR FORCE during the Viet Nam war, the 3 star general I worked for, had his own secret stash of Air Craft parts for his DC-6. When the inspectors showed up to to take inventory of everything on the base in 1971, we had built fake walls and hidden rooms in the hangar, to conceal all of his ILLEGAL " lost " supplies. He even had complete engines for his aircraft. Only his air crew knew of this stuff, and we knew to keep our mouths shut about it. The inspectors never found his stuff!
That's a small example of what the hell goes on!
Do you actually believe there is a war on drugs? Or is the American government playing PATTY-CAKE with all the major drug producing nations. Why is it when aircraft and personel are about to attack a poppy field, they nearly always find the ware houses, field's abandoned, and all the men are gone? Somebody is tipping them off. The raid is a charade put on to show we are "fighting the fight" to stop the flow of drugs. So, let's keep funding the war on drugs! If truly, billions of dollars are changing hands inside of the illegal drug rings, where is all that money going? Year in and year out, we are told that the drug cartels are making BILLIONS each year. If that is the case, where is all that money, and why hasn't it exposed it's existance via lavish lifestyles, expensive toys, and so forth. Where are the solid gold tubs and faucets, the Ferrari's and Lambo's, yacht's and multi million dollar private jet's? Somebody high at the top, is spending the money on something else...but what? Remember the Iran-Contra scandal? What makes you think that the insiders stopped there.?
The point is people, if the Military and and secret BLACK PROGRAMS want to find unaccounted for money and supplies, they will find a way to get it, or create a false fronted program that is funded openly, but, yeilds little to no results.
You do know that we send BILLIONS a year to Israel under the guise of Economic Aid packages, right? Yet, look at that sorry ass state! Do you see 50 years of contiuous AID visible in their infrastructure, buildings, and military? We even give them our best fighter jet's and missles! So where is that money going? Something stinks too hell with that perpetual scam.
What about all the supposed humanitarian aid send to Africa, that never makes it to the needy people? We are told that it sits in warehouses and rots because of corruption. This is reported continuously, year after year.
Do you see massive piles of rotting and decaying food, and grain any place? There should be, but, there isn't. There is a huge discrepancy of what is reported sent, makes it to the port, and how much is just "wasted" laying in wait. Someone is stealing and selling these supplies for cash for some other program. Starving and dying tribes are expendable, if the money can be rerouted to pay for a mysterious black flying triangles, invisiblity cloaking programs, plus secret spies in the sky, and just maybe,
working with aliens at bases on the Moon, Mars, and god only knows whatever else the DUAL GOVERNMENT of the USA is up too.
You and I will never stop it. We are all pawns.
UFOBH

Originally posted by maudeeb
Mr. Stone,

Could you or someone else at ATS post a specific thread mentioning the Dyna Soar project docs being posted ? Love to read through them and foward the info to other interested parties.

Thanks.

I've checked out Clifford's document archive on ATS. The Dyna Soar project has not been included as yet. Hope it is soon. Cliff could post the link here.

Cheers!

I'm not sure if this info has been posted already, and I'm not about to read this whole thread to find out. So here goes, in the US Army at least from what I know, in the last decade a new MOS has been created for officers. It is an astronaught position and sounds vry interesting considering what has been mentioned all over the many media types.