The Top Secret US Military Space Program. Is The Future Already Here?, page 11
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reply posted on 2-2-2008 @ 04:17 AM by mikesingh
Originally posted by Equinox99
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If our government has that technology then why not sell the patents to other more developed countries to make even more money then oil has ever shown us?

It's the question of security. Selling ZP technology is fine, but those countries can further develop that technology not only for energy but making weapons that could pose a security threat to the US of A.

Think about this for a moment, how much would Russia, China, Dubai, Israel, Britain, Canada, and Europe pay for it?


What's the point of buying a technology that costs tens of billions of dollars to begin with? The US wouldn't give it for a song, would they? The idea is to have access to freely available energy, where one doesn't have to pay for using it. And that's when we'll graduate to a Type I civilization where we would be able to harness all the energy from the Earth for free! But that's still a long way off.

Cheers!


reply posted on 2-2-2008 @ 12:03 PM by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
Right, I'm posting links below for related subjects, aswell as some corroboration on the subject. I know I'm not as good as Mike at research, but hey, some people may not have heard of this, although I doubt it.

This is a link to the congressional discussion of the 'secret space program', I know quotes have been put on here, but again, for some insight.
www.globalsecurity.org...

A similar topic on earth files, discussing the secret space program, aswell as possible funding and technology.
www.earthfiles.com...

A link to an interview with Gary McKinnon, a hacker who gained access to DoD databases aswell as NASA. He is still in the Uk fighting extradition to the US. The US government really want this guy considering all this stuff 'doesn't exist' ^^
www.guardian.co.uk...
MUST READ!!

Again, similar topic, started by John Lear discussing the secret astronauts, although slightly off topic, it does corroborate aswell as offers some other insightful information. A picture of the F-19 ISV is included on this post, interesting stuff!! like to hear Mr. Lears thoughts on this subject, see if he can clarify some points we've raised here.
lucianarchy.proboards21.com...
Some other info i can't seem to find, although im sure many people on here can find them, if you do pls post, it will only strengthen our argument.

-France complained to the US about the numbers not adding up on there 'official' declaration on the number of sats and stations up there.

-Billions of dollars were wasted on a USAF base after they built a space port and crafts and never used it apparently!! i don't know whats more criminal, they may have done it, or they are getting away with that explanation, LMAO!!

again, if people could find these, i will keep looking aswell, but pls post

thanks. EMM

lucianarchy.proboards21.com...
display&thread=1152904029&page=5



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reply posted on 2-2-2008 @ 09:44 PM by mikesingh
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Thanks guys! Those were very interesting Vids and links! EMM, it's gonna take me some time to go through all that though I've read a couple some time ago! Can we blow the cover? Hmmm...At least we're getting close, what with all the sleuthing going around!

Cheers!



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reply posted on 3-2-2008 @ 10:52 PM by muzzleflash
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i think the biggest problem with your arguement Cool Hand, is that you keep expecting "Above Black" type programs to be "proveable"

Sorry. Its called "BLACK" for a reason, cuz you cant see anything!

Expecting someone to prove anything in this realm of discussion, is 100% useless. Theres no proof, and if there WAS PROOF? IT would be contained, and hidden agian.

This subject lays within the realm of Speculation. You simply cannot claim facts, or use "debunking" to "debunk" it. You cant! Its speculation.

Please look in a dictionary to see the definition to the word "Speculation".


reply posted on 4-2-2008 @ 07:25 AM by snoopyuk
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well said , i have noticed that Coolhand turns up in every thread demanding proof of black projects and secret programs....it makes me laugh that people expect there to be open proof just lying around !!!

snoopyuk


reply posted on 4-2-2008 @ 12:03 PM by COOL HAND
Originally posted by snoopyuk
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well said , i have noticed that Coolhand turns up in every thread demanding proof of black projects and secret programs....it makes me laugh that people expect there to be open proof just lying around !!!

snoopyuk


You know what makes me laugh? Folks that will believe anything they are told here, regardless of evidence (or lack thereof).

I remember the good old days here, when folks expected facts to back up claims. Now you just spew whatever crap you want, and chance are someone here will believe you and take up your cause.

I can't believe that we have gotten to the point now where we attack those who simply demand proof (don't tell me there is none) of claims. I guess the mods must be taking some time off from their duties?

Check my previous posts, I asked some simple questions that could easily prove such a program even possible. No one here has accepted the challenge and tried to dig up the info I asked for. Until they do, I will remain skeptical of this program.


reply posted on 4-2-2008 @ 12:18 PM by COOL HAND
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As soon as people start answering the questions I have asked, I will be more than happy to answer theirs.

I think part of the problem here is that people often do not know exactly what they are looking at. There are all kinds of information that is hidden in plain sight (mostly appropriation bills). The problem is that no one wants to wade through hundreds of pages of documents to find one or two telling lines that can provide you with what you need.

This isn't something I can teach you how to do. If you haven't already figured it out yourselves, chances are you never will.

BT

I will admit to being tempted to pull a Lear manuever for this one.


reply posted on 4-2-2008 @ 12:31 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by COOL HAND

I think part of the problem here is that people often do not know exactly what they are looking at. There are all kinds of information that is hidden in plain sight (mostly appropriation bills). The problem is that no one wants to wade through hundreds of pages of documents to find one or two telling lines that can provide you with what you need.


Well I do... and I have collected thousands of those documents with the efforts of the Pegasus team... but as you say no one wants to read through them so there is little point posting them... heck in the star gate thread I had to 'brow beat' people into even looking at a document from AFRL... then one guy comes back and says "well I looked at it but did not see anything significant... could you highlight the relative passages?"

LOL he never even looked at the title let alone the abstract on page one...

So one has to ask... why bother?


This isn't something I can teach you how to do. If you haven't already figured it out yourselves, chances are you never will.


No one is asking for lessons... just point us to one real image or one real source of 'good stuff"

But then... there are others here who claim to be skeptics, yet work at a job that actually has 'hands on' on the very things we are looking for... Sure I understand that they are bound to keep their mouth shut, and I have honor enough not to reveal what was told to me confidentially, but to pretend to be a skeptic seems to me kinda stupid... unless they have a different agenda...


I will admit to being tempted to pull a Lear manuever for this one.


I would advise against it... the weather has changes here... that might get you banned or your topics dumped into skunk works with no warning or reason given...

Even my FOIA releases went to the basement... while those from Clifford Stone (which are old and readily available all over the net) are still front page news...

Oh well...

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