"Bermuda Triangle" effect around Empire State Building

Interesting article in Sunday's edition of the New York Daily News. It claims that there are an unusual number of cars stalling and dying around the Empire State Building. The effected area extends to a 4-to-5 block radius around the building. A towing company interviewed for the article says that their company alone gets 10-to-15 jobs a day in the area.

Naturally, the antennae on top of the skyscraper are the main suspects. The paper points our that the company that owns the building refused to name and number the antennae currently up there, and, of course, denied to be the source of the problem.

What say you?

This is a really interesting article. Good Post! Anyone know of any government entities working in the building that would be using powerful antenna to cause this?... Anyone in the area who can research this some more? I will try and do a search on the net myself...

D'you think its some of kind EMP from those antennaes? Thats what i wuold think.....but then again i dont know jack about these electrical things. Just threw something out there

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Yea i thought of the Gov. doing something too.....but thats an extreme thought because, why in hell would the Gov. do some petty car-not-working-tactics?

Or maybe its a Black Op project, designed to directly stop a vehcile, but this black op project is designed for Car Bombs, more specifically Iraq? IDk another random thought lol

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No I don't think they are intentionally disabling cars...I just think whatever they are doing is affecting that 4-5 block radius around the building. I have never heard of anything like this before in a city, so something must be occurring...We will know in about 40 years...lol..i.e. declassified documents...

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Why is it always the government now? What happened to people randomly doing this stuff by themselves. The company itself is acting suspiciously, blame the company. It says in the article that the probable cause is a specific frequency of radio wave that messes with the remote key control in the car. Since it doesn't mention any cars without the feature being affected, then the remote key button should be checked out. SO what's causing the frequency? Speaking as someone who's worked with machines, they tend to broadcast on a frequency, the ones at the shop I work at tend to broadcast around 96 to 97 FM. Ticks me off because it means I can't listen to the Rocket. It can be anything from improperly shielded machines broadcasting a frequency that is piggybacked onto the antennas and broadcast strong enough for a few blocks to mess with the cars, to a new piece of machinery that's not been used in a facility like the Empire State.
It's not a EMP because a EMP would permanently kill the cars' computer. Once the cars are towed a distance away, then they work fine.
It might not even be the Empire State exactly, the signal may originate somewhere nearby, and the folks there know their stuff and are telling people to look elsewhere.

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Who said anything about an EMP? I know I didn't....I know that an EMP would knock out more than just a few cars, more like hundreds...The reason we suspect the government is because they are continually testing new things that none of us know about. Whatever it is has got to be electromagnetic...At least that is my theory....

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Er... EMP Electromagnetic pulse. Check up on 'em, they will KILL computers, not just knock them out until out of range.


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I seem to remember a thread in the paranormal section about people trying to meet up at the empire state building in their lucid dreams...

From what I recall, for some reason, even experienced lucid dreamers found it hard to "get" close to the building for some odd reason.

There could be some strange electro mangentic signature at that point in the earths crust...due to the composition of the crust beneath the building...or a perhaps several magnetic fields all meet there...

Dunno, but I think the lucid dreamers odd phenomenon might be tied into this.

Interesting post.

Has anyone considered Earth Grid type energy at the site in question?

The OP mentioned a 'Bermuda triangle like' phenomena around the Empire State building.

It has been shown that the Bermuda region contains strong 'Earth energies', perhaps the Empire State area has similar properties...

I know the Bermuda region has a strong correlation to the Earth energy grid.


Additionally, it is said that major momuments and buildings in many cities around the world are INTENTIONALLY built on these 'energetic' sites.


So i'm saying that it is feasible that the situation around the Empire State building is being caused by antenna's but i would also add in possiblility of Earth energies in the area.

Interesting that this wasn't found in some other random place in a random city, but around none other than the Empire State building in where else but New York.

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Hi MystikMushroom,
That is exactly what I was thinking, unfortunately someone kept thinking I was referring to an EMP... Anyway, tell me more about these lucid dreams individuals are having in regards to the Empire State building. Do you have any links for us to read on?

[edit on 28-1-2008 by wrangell76]

I can tell you whats happening but you probably can't conceive what I am going to say.

There is a force emitting from this Earth, that gave us all Life. Everything on Earth has this force within it, including all physical objects. This force can be mistaken as gravity. The heavier the object, the more force of Earth is in it. The lighter the object, the less force of Earth it has in it.

This force can be manipulated and bent and channeled, much like electricity. It passes through all objects.

Now imagine, a very very heavy object, which would mean it has very very large amounts of this force within it. Now say you wanted to take the very very large amount of force out of that heavy object and use it to your benefit.

That's what a pyramid did. The shape of the pyramid alone is assisting in the concentration of the force to the tip of the pyramid. The heaviness of the giza pyramid, and the angle and exact measurements are perfectly designed to shape this force from Earth and point it directly into the sky. This force from Earth travels best in dense material like granite or gold.

Imagine the Las Vegas Luxor Light.

When the force is sent out from the Earth and funneled to the tip of the pyramid, it shoots up infinitely into the sky. Then an equal and opposite reaction happens. Then energy is sent back, from the sky, or even the stars.

This is the same effect that Obelisks are designed to accomplish. en.wikipedia.org...

One must wonder why human sacrifices were done next to these objects in the past. Energy being channeled to other places? Then one must wonder about Freemasons, and the design and layout of the Washington D.C. streets. Specially with the Washington Monument right in the middle.

Heck, the World Trade Centers 1 and 2 were a Freemason design of the number 11. Imagine the WTC towers acted like Obelisks, and the Pyramid. Imagine a special alignment with gravitational fields at a certain planetary position that aligned it self with the WTC towers, causing it to DECAY much like radioactive decay. How hard would it be to predict a planetary alignment, to the exact DATE 9/11 that destroys a building that physically looks like the number 11 at those coordinates? The world trade centers were probably designed to channel this force, and it became more power than itself can handle.

This may sound crazy. But it will explain Stonehenge. The heavy rocks that contain lots of force, are channeling the force from the Earth through the rocks and is like putting and LED on a Bread Board. Put them in a loop and you have even more of that force.

Would you be surprised to find out that force from Earth is what makes mountains and hills? That the force is more existent where mountains and hills exist.

If you want to know more just ask..

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forgot to add, ONE dollar bills have a pyramid on the back with a levitating capstone and energy that seems to be coming out of it. IN YOUR FACE.


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Whatever this force is, can I get one for my car so I can stall idiot road ragers in their tracks?

That'd be cool!

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Can you explain more about the 9/11 thing. Overall your post makes sense really.. too bad you didn't have anything to verify your claim =(.

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Look,strictly speaking in regards to computers, a electromagnetic interference of any kind would seriously mess with a computer, it would just pop on when it's out of range. Regardless of whether it's a pulse of a free standing energy source.



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Now that makes perfect logical sense to me. An unregulated radio wave that screws with the key fobs/ignition of certain cars.

It 100% cannot be EMP, it would not only destroy the cars electronics, but the surrounding buildings as well.

Maybe the companies a wee bit secretive because they know exactly what their antenna's are doing, but it's either too costly to fix it or they simply cannot be bothered with something so trivial.



Tectonic and geological movement create mountains and hills, not Earth energy.

a few random points :

a 4/ 5 block radius you say - thats how many streets ? and in that massivly congested part of manhattan how many cars pas through that area DAILY ?

15 to 20 tows a day - from that area alone - so what how many / day does his firm get from a similar sized area - with EQUAL trafic density ?

the inverse square rule - unless you wish to claim that this is some " magic phenonemon " the inverse square rule should apply to any conventional EM feild - that is to say - its power at a range of 2 blocks is only 25% of the power @ 1 block and so on

other electrics - there is nothing special about a vehicles electronics - they work on exactly the same principlals as all other devices - why is there not a corresponding increase in the failure rates of other equipment ?

lastly - cars over heat , especilly in gridlocked fraffic where the flow of cool air to radiators etc is at its lowest - intermitent faults like those described that self right after a short wait - are very often cauded by thermal overload

sorry folks - but this looks to me like a filler story on a slow news day

Has anyone contacted the FCC about this? Are the vehicles conking out manufactured by mostly one or two companies? Who manufactured the electronic systems that are failing? It seems interesting that the other electrical devices such as the horn etc. are not being effected. Heres where paranoia sets in. Could some one person or organization have some people on the ground using remote devices to block or turn the systems off? Perhaps since one towing company seems to have the monopoly in the area, someone got the bright idea as to how to make some cash. Someone connected or with shares. Seriously though, it's getting harder and harder to work on your own vehicle nowadays. Not only do you not have the time but a lot of people don't even bother checking their air filters let alone the battery in their keyfob. It would be interesting to hear if any of you out there who is in the vehicle service industry and has been there and had that happen to them and what you thought caused it. Everything doesn't always have to have some weird metaphysical cause. With the mass produced junk we get now there is bound to be more mundane reasons for mechanical failure.

I'll wager there's no vehicles with plain old Kettering ignition systems being affected there - that's if you have any vehicles like that in NYC these days. The plain old distributor/points/coil system with no electronic switching or dwell extension electronics. Mechanical fuel injected diesels are a safe bet too.

Must be a lot of 'scatter' from the transmitters up there.

I must be getting old - I still remember unlocking the car and starting it with a plain metal key

A coil, automaticaly attracts magnetic force.

When a magnet is next to a coil, the magnetic force jumps to the coil.

Magnetic force is what we use to create electricity.

Now imagine a coil so powerfull it can suck magnetic force out of closed circuit electric wires like a car's power system!

This is not EM Pulse. More like EM Attraction.

MEGALITHS ARE COILS.

en.wikipedia.org...