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Obama Win Predicted by Nostradamus


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Topic started on 27-1-2008 @ 01:51 PM by Athenian


Obama just won South Carolina by a landslide, he will do the same on Feb 5th, then again in November for the general election. Several Nostradamus verses seem to mention him.

From Century I

76
The man will be called by a barbaric name
that three sisters will receive from destiny.
He will speak then to a great people in words and deeds,
more than any other man will have fame and renown.

97
That which neither weapon nor flame could accomplish
will be achieved by a sweet speaking tongue in council.
Sleeping, in a dream, the king will see
the enemy not in war or of military blood.

Century II

89
One day the two great masters will be friends,
Their great power will be seen increased:
The new land will be at its high peak,
To the bloody one the number recounted.

Century IX

65
He will come to go into the corner of Luna,
Where he will be captured and put in a strange land:
The unripe fruits will be the subject of great scandal,
Great blame, to one great praise.

66
There will be peace, union and change,
Estates, offices, low high and high very low:
To prepare a trip, the first offspring torment,
War to cease, civil process, debates.

and Century x
89
The walls will be converted from brick to marble,
Seven and fifty pacific years:
Joy to mortals, the aqueduct renewed,
Health, abundance of fruits, joy and mellifluous times.

90
A hundred times will the inhuman tyrant die,
In his place put one learned and mild,
The entire Senate will be under his hand,
He will be vexed by a rash scoundrel.

See for yourself at www.sacred-texts.com...



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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 01:57 PM by Mr Jackdaw


A short post is inevitable.

The texts you have posted are just vague enough to mean anything -- which is an accusation I have heard concerning Nostradamus's prophecies. How exactly did you arrive at your conclusion from "A barbaric name that three sisters will receive from destiny"?



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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 02:09 PM by Incarnated


This is why Nostradamus has lost credibility over the years, because everyone is always spinning his works for their properganda and through their misguided perceptions.



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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 02:22 PM by Athenian


Hussein comes from, Husayn ibn Ali, Grandson of Mohammad, through Mohammad's daughter Fatima. Fatima had three sisters, although I can't tell you that they had any part in naming Husayn. I can tell you that Obama says that Barack is originally a Hebrew word meaning Blessed. I guess that runs a little contrary to the whole barbaric name thing, but what counts is that Americans generally consider his name barbaric.



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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 02:31 PM by Pellevoisin


Originally posted by Athenian


He will be vexed by a rash scoundrel.


Well at these that bit seems spot on:

"rash scoundrel" = Bill Clinton



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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 02:36 PM by Pellevoisin


reply to post by Athenian



"The man will be called by a barbaric name
that three sisters will receive from destiny."


Nostradamus would have likely judged a Muslim name as barbaric I think, but the bit about the three sisters imho points to the three in the Satanic Verses which are not found in the current Uthmanic recension of the Quran.



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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 02:45 PM by Mr Jackdaw


I was unaware of the sentiment concerning his 'barbaric' name. However, you have indicated that the connection between these events (prophecy and 'fruition') is sketchy at best.

If amendments have to be made to 'fix' Nostradamus's prophecy, I call them inaccurate -- my personal conclusion, of course. In my view, such arguments are generally made for movies with plot-holes; the audience will quickly come up with a plethora of time lines, alternate time lines, parallel universes, and Q documents, in order to paint the discrepancies as intentional, or otherwise acceptable.

Let's not forget that the verses list events that could apply to almost any time period. Friendship between powerful masters is something that dates back to the inception of power... and masters.

This reminds me of a tale about the Delphic Oracle.
The King (in the time of this tale) went to obtain the Oracle's insight concerning an impending war. He was informed, "If you cross the borders (of your kingdom), you will destroy a mighty nation." He interpreted it as a foretelling of good fortune; yet the kingdom he destroyed was his own.

In conclusion, perspective. If you're looking for patterns, you will likely find them.



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reply posted on 28-1-2008 @ 09:15 AM by kiliker30


I know this might be Ignorant to state or even relay to most of you.
But everytime i think about this election, i get this strong feeling he will win. And that for awhile many great things will come from it.
But then it'll turn to dust.

Does anyone feel that way?



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reply posted on 28-1-2008 @ 03:47 PM by ashflash


reply to post by Athenian



Jonathan Cainer, British astrologer predicted Hillary Clinton would be the next president. It will be interesting to see if he's right and also interesting to hear his reasons behind a wrong prediction if Obama gets in. Time will tell. As for Nostradamus, I seem to recall the world would end in 1999.... Enough said me thinks.



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reply posted on 29-1-2008 @ 03:22 PM by Marid Audran


Wow, that is cool! I had no idea I was mentioned by Nostradamus!


From Century I
76
The man will be called by a barbaric name
that three sisters will receive from destiny.
He will speak then to a great people in words and deeds,
more than any other man will have fame and renown.



My name is Patrick, from Padraig of the barbarian celts
I have 3 aunts who think highly of me
I am not famous yet, but I am working on it. watch this space


Century II
89
One day the two great masters will be friends,
Their great power will be seen increased:
The new land will be at its high peak,
To the bloody one the number recounted.



I took martial arts from this guy named Greg who had a falling out with another teacher named Tom. But they worked it out now they have trained some of the greatest mma fighters alive, like GSP who won the title match at the last UFC.


Century IX

65
He will come to go into the corner of Luna,
Where he will be captured and put in a strange land:
The unripe fruits will be the subject of great scandal,
Great blame, to one great praise.



I worked for a company with Moon in the name and I was hired for a job that I wasn't at all qualified for. Everyone bitched about it, but then I figured out what to do and saved the company a lot of money and then the boss really liked me.


and Century x
89
The walls will be converted from brick to marble,
Seven and fifty pacific years:
Joy to mortals, the aqueduct renewed,
Health, abundance of fruits, joy and mellifluous times.




With the money they saved we moved to a really sweet office with, you guessed it, marble! AND there is a big koi pond (aqueduct). Life was good with my new job and I bought both a car and a motorcycle and was happy, though I am not sure mellifluous is the word I would choose unless you like the rumble of a big touring bike.


90
A hundred times will the inhuman tyrant die,
In his place put one learned and mild,
The entire Senate will be under his hand,
He will be vexed by a rash scoundrel.



Then it was revealed that I really just got lucky before and was raked over the coals. Maybe not a hundred times, but I had no weekends for the better part of a month, so I guess kinda. Then I resigned and they hired the guy that they should have hired before me and everyone liked him better so I started calling him every hour and hanging up. That will show him.


EDIT: It is worth mentioning at this point that I really want to believe in prophets yet all that I have seen is conjecture and vague commentaries that can be easily explained. Here is one from Patrick Century XXI - it is my prediction of who will win the election - bookmark this and then be amazed at the end of the year...

And in those chilling days the great audience sent up a cheer
For the one who had never been crowned king was raised up
And the great Eagle bowed its head allowing a new lord
To ride its back and wield its mighty talons



[edit on 29-1-2008 by Marid Audran]



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reply posted on 29-1-2008 @ 03:45 PM by mythatsabigprobe


That really seem to fit with this other little known quatrain..

The barabaric serf is expelled from the kingdom
and upon the great cycle of thunder
he salutes the king with digit extended
the usurper hears the bells toll the hour



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reply posted on 29-1-2008 @ 04:55 PM by DogHead


If the King of Terror quatrain actually meant Paymaster King, ie president of the USA then it came true-

in July 1999 Bill Clinton, paymaster king, let China into the civilised world of finance. In others words, the quatrain which said the Paymaster King would descend from the sky and revive the King of the Mongols came true. Bill Clinton flew to NZ, met with his Chinese paymasters, got them into the G7 / G8 / G pick a number and committed the world to a profiteering aggressive China which in turn committed us to a confrontation with China down the track.

Not so much a question of perspective with Nostradamus, more a question of finding his keys to anagrams and translation and making sure they are consistently applied.



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reply posted on 30-1-2008 @ 07:28 PM by Algonquin


I think your claims are ridiculous. I don't see how all of these quatrains refer to Obama. If any thing, this quatrain

"65
He will come to go into the corner of Luna,
Where he will be captured and put in a strange land:
The unripe fruits will be the subject of great scandal,
Great blame, to one great praise. "

may refer to Lunar missions as being a hoax. But Obama,.....no, I don't think so. You're really reaching. My 2 cents.


[edit on 30-1-2008 by Algonquin]



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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 10:06 PM by jetxnet


Basically from what I read, Iran will Nuke the US Navy and wipe them out in the Gulf.

Bascially Iran will take over most of the ME. This is the undercard for the main event between namely China and the US.

In order for Iran to run wild and take over most of the ME, Obama would have to become President.



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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 10:16 PM by ZOOMER


This is only my humble opinion, so don't lambast me for it.
This Nostradamus character never predicted anything. It is
always after the fact that someone says, "Wow, look what
he predicted". No one EVER says, "Nostradamus is predicting
such and such in April of 2010, for example. This is plain and
simple nonsense. Show me one thing before the fact and I will
start to believe this man.

If Nostradamus ate a gallon of beans for supper, he couldn't
predict a fart.

ZOOMER

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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 10:27 PM by Vanitas


Show me one thing before the fact and I will
start to believe this man.



I hear you...
Here are TWO that convinced me. (Others omitted on account of sloth... )


P.S. I had a look at some of the English translations on various websites. I am yet to find one that doesn't distort the meaning of at least one quatrain...







[edit on 22-5-2008 by Vanitas]



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reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 05:48 PM by Anonymous ATS


Why aren't these posts consecutive? The #'s are all over the place. IF IN FACT, he is the great one, shouldn't this be mentioned one paragrapha fter antoher? How cna you just pick paragraphs and know that they apply to Obama himself?
There are also Bible passages about him, have you found them yet?



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reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 06:03 PM by LDragonFire


Originally posted by Athenian

Century II

89
One day the two great masters will be friends,
Their great power will be seen increased:
The new land will be at its high peak,
To the bloody one the number recounted.


This reminds me more of GWB and of the friendship between Bill Clinton and Bush 41, and that the USA saw it's peak as GWB came into office and the increase in power of the executive branch.

90
A hundred times will the inhuman tyrant die,
In his place put one learned and mild,
The entire Senate will be under his hand,
He will be vexed by a rash scoundrel.


Possibly Obama having difficulty with GWB after he leaves office.



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reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 06:15 PM by garyo1954


Interesting concept of the name Barack.

Barak in Hebrew is like lightning or glitter.
Brakhah means a blessing.



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