Originally posted by easynow
as far as when someone put the " ufo " in this story i am assuming it would a recent idea. the book heavenly lights came out in 2005 and it
definately puts the ufo idea in this event.
From what I understand the book was published in the early 1980s in Portuguese. It has only recently been re-edited and translated to English.
The idea of UFOs in this story
is certainly not new. Maybe this notion is new to you, but people have suggested different explanations for it
for many years.
The reason why this book is so mentioned (and important) is because the authors besides being Portuguese and having a deeper understanding of how the
Portuguese people and society worked, were able to talk to witnesses, get access to documents no one had before and most importantly in my view, they
looked at the event and all the evidence objectively without letting any personal beliefs get in the way. And their conclusions are clear.
Regarding the association of UFOs and religion:
Why is it that the majority of people that claim to have seen UFOs and/or have been abducted by aliens doesn't associate the event with religion?
Yes, I am aware that some people do, but they are marginal minority. And how many people, from that marginal minority, claim that the beings presented
themselves has being religious figures or relayed religious messages? A minority of the marginal minority.
If UFOs were associated with religion, wouldn't one expect that everyone
that goes through such an experience to understand it as such?
Wouldn't the beings make it clear to the people that they appear to or abduct, like you believe
it happened to Lucia in Fatima? Wouldn't it
Instead, what we see is that only a small minority associates these events with religion. Could it be that it's the only way some people have of
understanding these events? Could it be that those people misunderstood the events and gave them these religious meanings?
There are people who experiment with drugs and claim to have had religious experiments or to have seen god and/or other religious figures. So
following your 'logic
', drugs are associated with religion. I hope you realize how flawed this 'reasoning' is.
The book was written by Portuguese researchers who talked to the witnesses, looked at the Church's documents and reached the conclusion that people
misunderstood what they saw and the Church - or most particularly the Jesuits - covered it up and fabricated a story to promote it's religion.
otherwise, although you never did any research on the field, talked to any of the witnesses or looked at any of the Church's
secret documents that the authors of the book did.
The majority of people who see UFOs or claim to be abducted don't associate the event with religion.
You on the other hand, even though you have never seen a UFO or have been abducted - and correct me if I'm wrong - believe
that UFOs are
And you have the audacity
to say that Palasheea, or anyone who disagreed with your beliefs, is biased?
I understand that you probably have an habit of asserting your beliefs based on nothing but 'faith
', but you should note that this is not a
forum, and ufology is not a field, where blind faith is an accepted argument.
I hope that you understand that this is not a battle between believers and non-believers. Myself and others who contest your views are simply looking
at this objectively.
And your posts, easynow, are lacking both perspective and objectivity.