The Mark of the Beast Identified

Their is no god, heaven or hell. when will people wake up...??? Stop all this crap. Religion is so outdated. Im so sick of holy rollers spewing this trash!!!

Funny. Weren't people telling me in another thread that Christians don't buy into apocalypse theology and the end of the world?

Why... Yeah, yeah they were.

How right you are poortom. Our biological bodies will be so much worm fodder. Sorry if i could not beg to differ with you. I'd go into detail of personal experience but I'm sure it would be lost upon you.

reply to post by poortom


oh, I don't know. Perhaps when you die your psyche is locked away in your brain, experiencing its personal id or ego taking over to create an eternity of heaven or hell. Time is, after all, entirely subjective.

As for god, the way I figure it, if we can have holes in the fabric of the universe that can devour light and emit no energy, except when they do, the possibility that there are some sort of spiritual / energetic entities or forces eyeballing us isn't terribly strange. Now, whether they deserve a religion in their name or not is beyond me, but hey, people need to keep themselves entertained somehow.

Aw poortom, don't go away mad. I see you added me to your 'respected foe accnt. You made your point, I made mine. Got no bad fethcin's on you homes. I respect all views. Sorry you can't respect mine.

I think if many of the great spritual souls of the past came back today that they would shudder at the mere mockery we have made of their divine teaching.
I would love to debate quote for quote anyone of pure faith using my God's Holiest Book except that I can't find the original one not tampered with nor rewritten by the hand of a mortal man (or woman).
If survival of my children means wearing the "mark" of the beast then may my humanly body wear it so boldly, but at least my eternal soul shall not be influenced by it.

reply to post by TheWalkingFox


I see what you are saying..! I can even see once you are dead you going on as energy of sorts. I Just think religion was made by man and therefore it is corrupt. If people would spend more time trying to better themselves and the world and stop squabbling about whos religion is right and who is good and who is a sinner and who blah blah blah..so sick of all that stuff!!!!!! Is common sense dead?????? This is only my second post ever, this religion stuff just gets me all fired up.. You seem very level headed.

reply to post by poortom


People can get it right at times. The problem as I see it, is monotheism. It causes Highlander syndrome, "There can be only one!" When you believe there is one, and only god, who is utterly all-powerful, all other religions become threatening, and so you spend your time attacking and undermining them.

I'm a religious person. I know that my religion is right. And you know what? Yours might be, too. Or not. I don't care, so long as you don't try to rope me into it.

Now, I don't necessarily take the bible as the "gospel" (lol) but I do believe that many of its teachings and stories have a lot of applicable significance in our lives, even today. Of course, there are lots of things that are obviously not intended to be taken as an example of how to live your life, things that are grossly mistranslated, and things that are edited in and out.

I believe that the issue of the beast is important, because it's obvious to many of us that there were things that people, and possible the divine, forsaw happening to our societies that would definitely spell disaster for us and our relationship to the divine.

If I had to pick something in our near future that the mark of the beast most closely resembled, it would undoubtedly be the RFID chip.

So, how would the RFID chip be a slap in the face to God? Well, it basically takes what would be normally God's job, and puts it into the hands of us lowly humans. With the people having implanted chips, all of a sudden now the government is all-seeing and all-judging and basically controls most aspects of your life. Our freedoms would be taken away. With man in the driver's seat, we don't know what kind of a job he would do! In my opinion, I think man will screw it all up for everybody. I am much happier with the freedom in my life that is God-given, and I'm not looking forward to answering to a controlling organization when it comes to every aspect of my life.

Looking for organized evil? ANTI - CHRIST ? There ya go. It's the people of this country. Antichrist is just that. Anti. Christ. Against Christ. Christ showed us what wonderful things a human of perfection, with the kingdom of God in his heart, can do. Now we've got half our country claiming to follow Christ, but warrant our country to bomb the s#!t out of other countries and dictate the way the world runs and will willingly give up their rights out of fear. I'm sure we all know the hipocrisy of many of the religious people in our current world. They think they're following Christ, but it's pretty much the opposite. Wasn't that another sign?

I also like to keep in mind, that this isn't the first time people have used religion to carry out evil. It's just that this time, the technology available to carry this evil out is a lot better. Man now has the technology to become the God of this earth. Now put someone in charge capable of carrying out evil, and you got yerself a problem.

We didn't HAVE TO let this happen, and we don't have to believe in God, heaven, hell, Christ, Satan, or whatever------but well, something really really bad is happening anyway, and somebody a really long time ago put in his words what he thought that thing might look like.
In a more optimistic view, (in order to stay sane) I like to look at it like this:
We're living in an extremely significant time in human history. We get to see it all go down. We have a chance to stand up for what's good and what's right, and see how it all plays out. It's an exciting time indeed. I try to go at it without fear, and keep God with me.

reply to post by poortom


Hello poorTom

Hope you are well,

I do understand your frustration and view upon such things,
There has been much deceitfulness and wickedness done by man
in the name of God,i am in no way blind to this and in no way am i perfect,
far from it,

What i do know tho,and sometimes in spite of religion ,is that i love my Father in Heaven and he loves me.

For what it is worth,on behalf of those all that have ever misrepresented the character of God in your life,I apologize.


Regards

BV




[edit on 27-1-2008 by BlackViolet]

reply to post by TheWalkingFox


Hello Fox,

I do see your point of view and there are many examples to behold
Unfortunately the ones that are doing as they are called and living their lives
by faith are the ones that you never hear of.

I myself am a Christian but i do not subscribe to the dogma of a certain
church (Tho i enjoy going) and i am secure in my Fathers love and what i believe,no need to attack any,we are all given free will and that is to be respected,Yes i believe that the bible is correct and you are free to say that it is not if you think,
Yes i defend my faith but always in love and respect for another,

Knowing God is not about religion, tradition and rote (bells and smells)
is but something to do to make us feel better,

Knowing God and having a relationship with him is not all fuzzy feelings
and beds of roses,sometimes it hurts,but ultimately it is love and there is
nothing better.

Thanks for the thread

BV

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Bravo Black Violet!

You got stars from me. Yours is one of the few Christian voices of reason that sneak in here. It's very refreshing, welcome to ATS, I certainly hope you stick around.

So nice to hear a Christian espouse love and seem to genuinely mean it and believe in it!

Come on guys - lets get this person some stars!

reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron


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For the mark to be valid, you must be in agreement with the Beast's policy against Christ. And, you must pledge by your hand over your heart that you accept him (the image) as the Savior of Mankind - NOT Christ. It is not about a literal mark. It is about what they can try to force you to openly do before others. It is then that you make your stand for Christ like never before.´´


thats it, basically. its not about a mark or sign. (nor the chip).
its a confession against Christ, although he died for mankind.

educated people can see lies or evil ´conspiracy´as changed colour
of the aura or chakras LITERALLY.
there will be a time where everybody will have to account for himself.
then his will become clear.
you cant hide.

[edit on 27-1-2008 by anti72]

reply to post by 1984kirby


Are you ready to give complex answers to simple questions? I hope so, 'cause i have not one, but two!

First off, how? How does "getting chipped" allow control of anything? Now the idea of shambling automated lines of robotic humans "getting chipped" or being checked for chips, or whatever, makes for great atmosphere in your average, run of the mill dystopian action flick. But it doesn't make a lot of sense in reality.

Second, why? What possible advantage is there to knowing that today you went to the store, picked up some cream cheese, two loaves of bread, and a six-pack of diet cola, then spent five minutes pleasuring yourself to porn, before giving your dog a bath and then settling out to watch six hours of uninterrupted sitcom?

Honestly, this "chip" stuff has me reminded of the Underwear Gnome scheme.
Step one: Chip people.
Step two: ????
Step three: Profit!

[edit on 27-1-2008 by TheWalkingFox]

here we have another thread without objective proof of anything. Just another baseless attempt to convert the masses based on nothing objective and sound, just the bible for reference. Poor, and a waste of time, to say the least.

The mark of the beast isn't a day. There are many "gods". Which god speaks to you?

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
With Heliosprime, everything has to do with Islam. I'm wagering that this fellow spends his Saturdays in prayer, and the rest of the week thinking very Christlike thoughts of how to obliterate 1.6 billion human beings from the earth for the crime of having one more prophet than he does.

Yet again you don't get the truth. It is not I who will obliterate 1.6 billion beings from earth, but Jesus himself for all those who even given one last chance will deny him as saviour.

It is they who condem themselves while they murder Christians in the name of allah...........

Originally posted by Winefried
reply to post by heliosprime

 

If you believe that keeping the 'proper' Sabbath is a sign of God's people, how do you equate this with the fact the Jesus himself broke the Sabbath laws quite openly? (If you are coming from a Christian perspective that is.)

Also, I'd be interested to see your answer to the few questions posted about hate mongering.

Jesus is the LORD of the sabbath and never, NEVER broke the sabbath. He pointed out the traditions of man were corrupt.

It has always amazed me how when humans are confronted with real truth they scream "HATER", rather than examine their own false traditions of man.

reply to post by heliosprime


So basically you worship a genocidal death-god who will happily exterminate most of the human population on the face of the earth because he's a jealous, petty little sot who needs his ego stroked constantly?

So how do you figure it's Muslims that are the problem, given your own theological tendencies? Project much?

Originally posted by Shawn B.
The Sabbath was made for man not the man for the Sabbath. Therefore the son of man is also lord of the Sabbath.

Mark 2:27-28

Jesus said we control the Sabbath, so we can do whatever we want with it.

"so we can do whatever we want with it", not exactly, it is GOD himself who set asside the sabbath and "ask" man to observe it.