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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 05:26 PM by The time lord
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The beast is a government system, all religions and nations and people will come as one. Hence NWO, and this system will put a mark on man, like for
example these RFID chips. Every anti-Chritian values will fall into this anyway, and will probably mean a lot of different things but will all add up
or be part of the whole puzzle at some point.
I believe the book of Revelation can be seen in different ways like God him self. One through a spiritual way of looking and understanding, one
through a literal.
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 05:28 PM by Incarnated
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actually it is the 7 heads of the beast that are the governmenting bodies of the people that are the nature of the beast and it is the horns on the
heads of the beast that are the leaders in control of the heads of the beast.
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 05:32 PM by TheWalkingFox
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Well, if you want to flex prophecy, you need to consider symbolism.
The forehead, or brow, is the classic seat of thought.
The hand is the source of action. We don't do things with our mouths or our elbows, but with our hands.
They accept the mark of the beast upon their thoughts and their actions. 
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 05:35 PM by The time lord
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Hi, yes I know that because it actually tells you in Revelation 15 what the horns and the beast is about litrually. People think the Beast is the
Anti-Christ but it's not, its a system of power, but some leader will control that power for their liking.
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 05:42 PM by Winefried
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If you believe that keeping the 'proper' Sabbath is a sign of God's people, how do you equate this with the fact the Jesus himself broke the
Sabbath laws quite openly? (If you are coming from a Christian perspective that is.)
Also, I'd be interested to see your answer to the few questions posted about hate mongering.
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 05:47 PM by AshleyD
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The Pharisees accused Jesus of breaking the Sabbath laws for healing people on the Sabbath. He used the analogy of an animal being trapped in a pit
and if a man would save this creature or ignore it due to it being the Sabbath in an effort to follow the letter of the law. He was pointing out their
hypocrisy. They were so obsessed with following the details of the rituals that they forgot the spirit of the law: to help others.
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 06:10 PM by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
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What is funny is that whenever the world is ending some people will be sure it was God others will be sure it is science......Does not matter...It
will end and whatever YOU believe will be your reality. Just my 3 cents
Oh and the BEAST is Rome... 
[edit on 26-1-2008 by TXMACHINEGUNDLR]
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 06:44 PM by dj05544
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I dont know who is more nuts...you or scientologists
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 07:51 PM by BlackViolet
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Actually,my personal view on the mark in the case of it being a literal implant is that there will be no forcing or demanding,
It will be as simple as the authority's saying,
Well Mr and Mr's Jones,seeing that you refuse to take the implant
you will not be able to function in society,
It is a shame that your children have to go hungry,
and you will not be able to receive medical treatment...Have a nice day
Matt 6:31-
Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or,
What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
For your heavenly Father knows that ye have need of all these things.
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 08:08 PM by tevis69
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These type of topics are always so facinating to me, to see people's different interpretations of a thousand year old piece of literature is very
insightful.
It also shows how sensitve people are about a subject or topic... where their true intentions lay.
This is could be a very informative topic if people are able to RESPECT eachother and leave the emotions on the wayside.
good vibes to all
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 08:14 PM by marg6043
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I see our friend heliosprime is again bringing his covenant preaching of the Sabbath into the conspiracies in region again.
Didn't you already have another thread on the same topic?
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 08:22 PM by Explosive
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 Originally posted by heliosprime
 Revelation 14:10 reveals that those who receive the mark of the Beast will have the wrath of God poured upon them. Notice the Apostle Paul’s
clear teaching about the recipients of God’s wrath. Colossians 3:6 tells us that “the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience.” The
mark of the Beast is therefore a brand of disobedience to God. It marks those who refuse to keep God’s commandments in spite of both the preaching
of the two witnesses and even the final warning delivered by an angel of God (Revelation 14:9).
The mark of the Beast stands clearly as a brand of disobedience to God and His laws. Does the Bible reveal a contrasting sign of obedience that
identifies God’s true people? Notice Exodus 31:13–17. Here God declared to ancient Israel that His Sabbaths were a sign between Him and His people
forever! The Sabbath is the test commandment to identify the true God of creation and the people who are obedient to His commands and laws.
Revelation 13 explains that the mark of the Beast, a brand of disobedience to God, is taken upon the hand and the forehead. Just as disobedience is
described as worn upon the hand and forehead, so also is obedience to God’s law. Notice Deuteronomy 6. “Now these are the commandments, the
statutes, and the judgments which the Lord your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it: That thou
mightest fear the Lord thy God, to keep all his statutes and commandments… And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be
as frontlets between thine eyes” (vv. 1–2, 8, KJV). The hand is symbolic of actions, while the forehead is the seat of intellect. Obedience to
God involves both actions (hand) and will (forehead).
This text clearly indicates the true mark of the beast is SUNDAY worship and denying the "old covenant". Keeping the Sabbath and the Holy days is a
mark of GOD's people.
"And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes" Deut 6:8
So the mark of the beast would be an "anti-mark" of the sign of the worship on SUNDAY and refusing the law and commandments...........and worship on
FRIDAY as in Islam............
 Actions and will make alot of sense. I've been away from church for a long time yet my actions and will are still his and explains alot.
However I must say in following his will my actions must be to enlighten you to the Seventh Day Adventist who would also appreciate this but recognize
that the seventh day and sabbath are saturday. No ill wll toward any who are confused about this but it is our duty for our actions to lead others to
this truth and others as written by the hand of God.
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 08:26 PM by Explosive
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Originally posted by BlackViolet
Actually,my personal view on the mark in the case of it being a literal implant is that there will be no forcing or demanding,
It will be as simple as the authority's saying,
Well Mr and Mr's Jones,seeing that you refuse to take the implant
you will not be able to function in society,
It is a shame that your children have to go hungry,
and you will not be able to receive medical treatment...Have a nice day
Matt 6:31-
Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or,
What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
For your heavenly Father knows that ye have need of all these things.
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Not sure that personal veiws count as written truths.
These things are already happening and the "way of the world" is to discard the poor and righteous who want to help others instead of get something
over on another for personal gains.
Believe in God and follow his commandments and he will take care...provide for his faithful.
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 08:29 PM by Explosive
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Never has a piece of literature been so insightful and never will there be an earthly piece as insightful.
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 08:59 PM by Shawn B.
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The Sabbath was made for man not the man for the Sabbath. Therefore the son of man is also lord of the Sabbath.
Mark 2:27-28
Jesus said we control the Sabbath, so we can do whatever we want with it.
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 09:12 PM by gb540
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Originally posted by BlackViolet
It will be as simple as the authority's saying,
Well Mr and Mr's Jones,seeing that you refuse to take the implant
you will not be able to function in society,
It is a shame that your children have to go hungry,
and you will not be able to receive medical treatment...Have a nice day
Already there. Try doing anything stateside without a SSN, photo ID, and money.
Whatever happened to that national standardized driver's license everyone was supposed to be getting, like it or not? Which we know only precludes a
world photo ID (not just a passport), and finally the implant. All needed to "fight crime" or "prevent terror" or some BS like that.
So many marks, if we only knew which was THE mark...
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 10:36 PM by Umbra Sideralis
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Intriguing... Hard for me to understend all the text but, if i read your resume:
"This text clearly indicates the true mark of the beast is SUNDAY worship and denying the "old covenant". Keeping the Sabbath and the Holy days is
a mark of GOD's people. "
I am not sure, but are you telling us that "The Church" teaching us that Sunday is the day of the Lord, is in fact the mark of the beast?
Summaryng..The Church is The mark of the beast?
I also don't understend exactly how the Islamic friday is related to this. Care to explain better if possible?
Thx
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 10:39 PM by TheWalkingFox
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I'm not pointing you out here, but I just want to muse... Why is it that the same people who were telling us "If you don't have anything to hide,
why should you worry about surveillance?" are generally hte first ones to pop up with worries about the "mark of the beast?"
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 11:03 PM by birchtree
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helio your theory is diff to say the least.....you have left some important scripture out of it........
...“He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one
may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16-17...
This scripture in itself clearly indicates that it will be a literal physical mark that one takes.......also by indicating the number of his name
in the scripture is the idea where some scholars get the idea that this is NERO
Nero Cæsar or Cæsar Nero, and adds an "n", resulting in Neron Cæsar. Next the Latin is transliterated into Aramaic, resulting in nrwn qsr, which
when using the numeric equivalent of the letters, then adds up to 666 as follows:
Nun = 50
Resh = 200
Waw = 6
Nun = 50
Qoph = 100
Samech = 60
Resh = 200
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reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 11:07 PM by birchtree
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REV chap13 vs16-17 clearly indicate there will be a literal physical mark that will be needed to buy or sell
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