Originally posted by MBF
What a most people don't realize is that just about anything organic can be used to produce alcohol not just grain.

I've tried some vodka which contained alcohol made from saw dust (in Northern Russia). They probably did a sloppy job of distilling it, because it was pretty awful (and I mean it was awful). However, I wouldn't hesitate to pour this into my fuel tank

Originally posted by LAUGHING-CAT
There was a story out last week about a researcher splitting the H2O molecule with radio freq's.

Laws of physics dictate that this was nothing more than a fancy way of electrolysis. There have been countless stories of how people managed to split the water molecule with less energy than is released during it's formation, but that violates conservation of energy and is not possible.

Originally posted by mybigunit
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this will be squashed. the government doesnt want to get off the oil based titty because right now the arabs are putting a lot of money in all the right places to make sure it doesnt happen. Think about this we have the ability for hydrogen cars and can impliment it right now. Why isnt it being done you ask? They are not sure how to profit on it yet.

If what you are saying was remotely true, we wouldn't be having a boom in hybrid vehicles, and several pre-production models of electric vehicles that will be on the roads soon. People like them, and the capitalist machine has to oblige.

Originally posted by oLDWoRLDDiSoRDeR
Reminds me of back to the future . I would love to see a built in converter.
Too bad we cant use hemp. I bet that would be just as good a source.

why would you want to drive up the price of hemp?! lol

I am running E85 in my modefied 1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo and wanted to add a few important discussions from personal exerience:

1. I get about 20% less miles per gallon with a 9:1 compression ratio engine
2. Fuel efficiency increases with compression ratio and E85 is 105 octane,
so it's like race gas. Octane rating is what limits compression ratios
3. So, a car designed to run on ethanol only can have higher compression ratio,
and thus better fuel economy I plan to do this sometime with my winter car,
as I cannot change the compression ratio of the Mazda since it is rotary
4. It just loves to run under boost and am currently limited by the factory turbo,
but once I upgrade I can run higher pressures and thus more horsepower
5. From what I read the Jerueselum Artichoke flower yields way more gallons
per acre then corn does but I can't remember where I found the chart.
6. If you have a newer car you can buy a conversion module from www.thefuelman.com for about $400, I run an aftermarket programable ECU.
7. The reason the flex fuel cars loose mileage is due to the fact they have to
run on 87-93 octane gasoline also which as mentioned limits compression
ratio and thus efficiency
8. It actually smells good (I have no catalytic converter)