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New AntiCapitalist Party In France : Besancenot and the Trotskyst Metempsychosis

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posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 06:31 PM
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New AntiCapitalist Party In France : Besancenot and the Trotskyst Metempsychosis


www.workersliberty.org


Author: David Broder
After winning 1.5 million votes in the April 2007 French presidential election, the Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire launched a call for a new “anti-capitalist party” to bring together activists from across the spectrum of the far left in a joint organisation.

This unity effort in some ways echoes the LCR’s previous efforts to turn to other parts of the left, for example in their support for former leading Communist Party member Pierre Juquin in the 1988 presidential election. At present it is unclear what exactly the LCR plans to do – bring together the revolutionary left, or just everyone to the left of the Parti Socialiste’s Blairite leadership? Nothing has been settled as yet, although the debates at the LCR congress on January 24-27 are sure to shed more light on the matter.

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posted on Jan, 25 2008 @ 06:31 PM
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Olivier Besancenot is a french mailman working in Neuilly-sur-Seine, a parisian wealthy suburb of which President "Bling-Bling" Sarkozy used to be the opportunistic mayor (a city which still outlaws its legal obligation to offer low-cost habitations for unwealthy people...).

Besancenot is for few years the . of the Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire, a trotstkyst party founded in may of 1968. With his radically lefty propositions, Besancenot reached the not-very-commented third place in the last rush for Elysée, the french presidency election. He now put forth his aim to lead a new political group clearly devoted to serve the lower class in front of all financial, capitalist, antichristic -if I can say- interests. Even if he's an obviously bright atheist - at least publically...

While USA are hopefully awaking from the neocon nightmare, Sarkozy try to make France a second Britain - I mean another support of worldwide financiarist capitalism (oxymoron ?) - this irrational devil who put the body upon the spirit...

Besancenot, oppositely to the so-called socialist Segolene Royal tricky "leftism" tremendously echoing Sarkozy's options (even if some of her measures where deeply left-oriented [trying to get France in phase with the Porto-Allegre paradigm] - they were mostly counter-balanced by radically-rightist propositions, like controlling schools with military staffs (!)...), - Besancenot is probably one of the last (in those finishing times : therefore maybe one of the first of the coming times...) political "leader" (christic "leader" in some way, as serving the others more than himself...) who clearly aims to frontly fight against the worldwide current tendency to let capitalism/phynancialism (see Alfred Jarry's "UBU Roi" for the orthographic meaning) rule the world as it goes...

Revolution !

Vote Besancenot ! Vote Ron Paul !

PS - Next step : Anarchia !

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posted on Jan, 26 2008 @ 12:28 PM
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Bon bin on va répondre en anglais...

As being anarchist/punk, anticapitalism is for sure one of my view, but voting for extreme left communist is not the better idea, just seen what happened in eastern europe, it was just a "leftism national socialsim", i have russian friends who suffer from comunism, their familly had to leave their country cause of it,
different idea, maybe but same acting.

So my message is NO VOTE, just take your right in the way you can, sabotage or whatever you find to do it, i like this sentence " their power come from our obedience, DISOBEY!"

That make me laugh when i speak about that with people, they always answer by "it's not because me, i act like that, that the thing will change!" seriously how people do you know said the same? Yes a big part of it, now put them togheter and we have a big bunch of activist, people are just resign ans apparently love to be it.
Blinded by materialism, money and a so-called life.

DESOBEDIANCE RESISTANCE EXISTANCE



posted on Jan, 26 2008 @ 01:37 PM
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But you speak english on ATS as you risk the bannishment for writing in French...

Je souscris à 100 % - n'ayant de fait jamais voté, sauf en 2007 pour... Chasse Pêche Nature et Traditions !
- Soit l'antivote actif.

Dear anglophony ATSer this is now the translation, for me not to be bannished and for you to appreciate what oldworlder says to themselves behind the curtain : VIVA ANARCHIA !



posted on Jan, 27 2008 @ 04:29 PM
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I didn't know thta i could be banned because i speak with maternal language on a forum, lol the fascist are everywhere even where you don't expect to see them


Your vote make laugh but i have to desiagree with, i'm vegan so i can't support hunter or fisherman, those bloody killer.


I too never voted and think i'll never do it, i don't see the point to do that as nothing will be better anyway so, i prefer stay at bed this day


ANARCHIE EN CHIRAQ... ah non c'est fini ça...

ANARCHIE EN SARKONAZIRIE



posted on Jan, 27 2008 @ 05:25 PM
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Good they need to throw out the NWO love boy srovsky down with capatlism



posted on Jan, 27 2008 @ 05:51 PM
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Gee guys, it's not anyone's being a fascist that English is one of the more universal languages on the web, and the mother tounge of the person who started this site.

There are people from all over, so if everyone used just the language of their choice, this place would be the tower of Babal three days after the smiting and confounding took place.

Besides, a word or two here and there doesn't usually draw too much ire, as long as it's reasonable and short and not a habit.

Besides, what little French I know came from Cajuns, and theirs is strange eve to Frenchmen.



posted on Jan, 28 2008 @ 10:31 AM
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Yeah i know, it was sarcasm, my humor is a bit strange ( i'm belgian
), i apologise.

I just went to wrote a bit a french with a bit of humor as he is apparently french so, it will not be an habit.

"Besides, what little French I know came from Cajuns, and theirs is strange eve to Frenchmen."

Sorry, didn't really understand....
, does it's mean you learn a bit of french in cajun and then you tryed to speak and people didn't understand?
it must be admit that french is hard language so, when i see an ""alien"" trying to speak french i just can admire it and frankly american/english speaking french make me laugh, i love the accent!!!

Was a bit off topic.....



I rode yesterday that they will have to "kill" the LCR to start the new party, if they do it good that can be interesting maybe it will help people to realise what they did few month ago..... at least i hope.
Damn, when i take the train from luxembourg to metz i have to agree to have my identity checked and/or open my bag as they can see if there is no weapon or drug or alcohol from luxembourg and this 2 times on the travel ( -50minutes ), one by the cops and one by the border patrol, horray for sarkonazi.
I never seen that in belgium!!!
What is this country? Can i have the right to travel without being scared to be control by this so-called peace-keeper?
4 control in 2 hours last time, the 2 usual in the train and 2 others in the town.
My only crime is to don't looking good, i'm not the common one, i'm one of those people think we are bad, crazy, dangerous and with no brain because of my way of life/thinking/looking.

One way system, one way to resist them...



posted on Jan, 28 2008 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by ufopunx

So my message is NO VOTE


If you abstain from voting then your discontent goes unheard.

If you vote for yourself as a write-in candidate, you send two messages: 1) you care about the political situation in your country; and 2) you don't care for any of the "solutions" offered by those who run for political office.

I have proposed The Mickey Maus Party, which is founded on the democratization of the Mickey Mouse Presidential candidacy. Mickey Mouse has received more votes for US President than any President in US history. A Democratic Institution, the Mickey Maus Party, therefore, nominates any candidate who seeks nomination. Make up your favorite candidate and write in your candidate's name wherever you vote next!



posted on Jan, 28 2008 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Rigel
Revolution !

Vote Besancenot ! Vote Ron Paul !


Sorry, but why promote a anti-capitalist party then say vote Ron Paul? He isn't a left wing candidate, he is a conservative


If you are left wing, you will hate/disagree with everything Ron Paul stands for

You would support the following, if you are from the left;

Communist Party USA
Socialist Party USA



posted on Jan, 28 2008 @ 11:21 AM
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I dont really know what the policies of this political party are, but if they live up to their name, this is good news, that is, if their leadership isnt jailed or assassinated.

As for joke parties, in Canada, we had The Rhinoceros Party as a satrical joke. They made rediculous promisses that were impossible to keep (such as repealing the law of gravity) but really got people focused back on serious political issues...



posted on Jan, 28 2008 @ 11:28 AM
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Well, I doubt the Trotsky leader is going to be enjoyed being compared to a Republican conservative.

Communism and conservatism is not compatible, it's two extremely different ideologies.



posted on Jan, 28 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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You are right about that.

I guess with all the shouts and cries from people on this board saying RP is a man of the people, someone is bound to get confused.



posted on Jan, 29 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by Rigel
Revolution !

Vote Besancenot ! Vote Ron Paul !


Sorry, but why promote a anti-capitalist party then say vote Ron Paul? He isn't a left wing candidate, he is a conservative


If you are left wing, you will hate/disagree with everything Ron Paul stands for

You would support the following, if you are from the left;

Communist Party USA
Socialist Party USA



Ron Paul is a somehow right-winged anarchist ("libertarian" in US langage). He diagnosed well the USA sickness as linked to agencies and the general structure of the Union as far too much hierarchized. Vote Ron Paul : he will dismantle all such an antidemocratic mess, then be followed by an healthy left-winged dude opening the door of true ANARCHY.



posted on Jan, 29 2008 @ 12:05 PM
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I thought RP was a constitutionalist: that is, he wishes to uphold the constitution in its purist form.

I could be wrong.



posted on Jan, 29 2008 @ 12:24 PM
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Maybe no contradiction ?


"U.S. Congressman Ron Paul - Libertarian "



"Rights belong to individuals, not groups. Property should be owned by people, not government. All voluntary associations should be permissionable -- economic and social. The government's monetary role is to maintain the integrity of the monetary unit, not participate in fraud. Government exists to protect liberty, not to redistribute wealth or to grant special privileges. The lives and actions of people are their own responsibility, not the government's." -- The Ron Paul Freedom Principles

source



[edit on 29-1-2008 by Rigel]



posted on Jan, 29 2008 @ 12:30 PM
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I see your point and you may be right, but there may also be theories/ideologies of anarchsim/libritarianism that RP does not agree with.

I dont know really, I dont follow RP, mainly because Im Canadian...



posted on Jan, 29 2008 @ 01:49 PM
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reply to post by Rigel
 


How the hell did you work that one at?

Ron Paul is a constitutionalist, that's completely different from anarchy.



posted on Jan, 29 2008 @ 02:04 PM
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reply to post by infinite
 


Paul's libertarism'd be A step TO Anarchy.

Anarchy DOES NOT MEAN Mess.

> Charles Fourier, Mikhail Bakunin, the Prince Kropotkine.

REVOLUTION !



[edit on 29-1-2008 by Rigel]



posted on Jan, 29 2008 @ 03:03 PM
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reply to post by Rigel
 


lol

No mate, you are crossing two ideologies that do not mix. There is nothing anarchistic about Ron Paul, going back to an earlier post, his election won't see the raise of a left wing figure either



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