The NWO Are the Architects of 2012. Here's Why!, page 1
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Topic started on 25-1-2008 @ 05:52 PM by Cythraul
On one hand I've been learning more and more about the NWO and their plans for a bleak future where a diminished population is penned together and made subserviant to the elite.

On the other hand, we have the prospect of a cataclysmic event poised to wipe out humanity. To support this, I hear speculation about the construction of vast underground bunker complexes and hideaways - such as the Bush family's acquisition of vast land areas in Paraguay - and these havens are supposed to save the elite. I can't help but draw connections between the Freemasons (their obsession with sacred geometry) and ancient cults who predicted world cataclysms (by encoding dates and information with the use of geometry into their monuments - take a look at the Scott Creighton forum for more on that).

So which is it? Both can't occur!
A total catastrophe in 2012 doesn't bode very well for the plans that the NWO have spent centuries working towards. Are they really going to harvest the fruits of their labours within the next 4 years? I don't think so. If the elite know something concerning some kind of natural event that's supposed to end mankind, they'd throw their hands up in the air in dismay, abandon the NWO plan and retreat to the bunkers they've supposedly been building.

So is the continuation of their grand plan some kind of (empty) reassurance that we're not all going to drown in tsunamis caused by a malevolent comet? Sure, you could say that a cataclysm might not destroy the entire world, therefore leaving just the right number of people for the NWO to enslave, but a cataclysm would destroy all of the social constructs that enable them to enslave.

I believe that if something is going to happen in 2012, the elite do know about it. Therefore the only conclusion I can draw is that whatever is going to happen, if anything, WILL be manmade. Why? Because it needs to be something that they can control in order for their grand plans to pan out. It could be nuclear war, it could be absolute martial law, it could be global epidemic, but it WILL be of their making. They must know that it won't wipe out anymore than about 80-90% of mankind otherwise their plan for domination would be pointless, and the only way they can know this for sure is if whatever occurs is something they are able to control

And by the way, I'm not a 2012 nut. I'm just postulating with an open-mind here.

[edit on 25/1/2008 by Cythraul]


reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 12:37 AM by addvantage666
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I think that most here know of the Mayan calendar ending in 2012, and there is the Chinese that had something else that coincided with that, and I've seen another 2012 prediction which I can't remember the source, and another that has written a book dating the end in 2012, and I have independently discovered yet another 2012 point of termination;

The current pope Benedict XVI may be overtaken by the Antichrist either in Oct this year, or in April 2012. Benedict will die at the hands of the mob as he tries to flee the Vatican. This was pope John's XXIII dream vision, not knowing whether it was him or another pope after him.



reply posted on 26-1-2008 @ 12:44 AM by addvantage666
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The one book about 2012 was written by Wayne Redden:

2012 Quick and Dirty by Wayne Redden ISBN: 1414107978 Publisher: Pleasant Word
Year: 2008. God's Word indicates that some end time prophecies will be unknown until the end of days. 2012: Quick and Dirty reveals the undeniable fact that some of the secrets of the Bible are now uncovered and exposed.

The other book by the same publisher by "me" containing information about 2012 is "Everything You Need To Know About The Number 666" ... The Biblical Interpretation of the Prophecy of the Number 666 by Ralph Myers ISBN: 1414108192 Publisher: Pleasant Word Year: 2007


reply posted on 29-1-2008 @ 03:05 PM by Achilles 13
I think, the Elites will use the maya prophecy because it will fit
there time frame only.....!

Is it possible that Anything that could terorise the population
will be use. If a american indians tribe or a old chinese tribe would
have wrote a terror prophecy between the time frame 2001-2033
yoiu would here a lot of propaganda about another, end of the world
scare tactic.

I think they use everything that can help them. Malachy, the profecy of
the popes fit the present date because the vatican declare a lot of
antipope. the 111 th popes is not suppose to be, Benedict XVI,
the last real pope before Peter the Roman.

is the history repeated it self, it look like old strategy, '' legend,
prophecys, Gods fears '' only to scare and control,

there are so many threats, Avian Flu, ww3, climat change, terrorist
attacks, Aliens attack, chaos, Bible Profecys......! ALL SCARE TACTIC
just like the old time and only to creat fears to control populations

ORDER INTO CHAOS, a New World Order agenda will not be fight in that
context, it will be a essential solution a need in the population's eyes and
FREEDOM will not be important anymore only SECURITY will.

It make me thing of a stick and carrot strategy, Kindoms use to
use those tactics to manipulate populations could it style be use today.

I saw that conspiracy theory,here somewhere in the a ATS's Posts a
couple a weeks ago, it sound plausible, do anyone have video or website
about something similar to that, i am interested in finding more about it.

thank you,
Achilles13




reply posted on 29-1-2008 @ 03:55 PM by Silenceisall
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reply posted on 30-1-2008 @ 08:20 AM by Achilles 13
Many, believe, that the roman empire, hidden behind the roman catholic
church, got control of the world because of the religion power over civilisation.

Sorry for any Jesus beleiver, but i think the 33 years of jesus history
is a big theatrical propaganda use by the roman catholics church to
easely control the Roman empire.

33 years is for them, i think, i strong number for power, thats why it is
plausible that the NWO agenda is maybe plan to the first 33 years of the 21 century.

that's why There was and will be a lot of chaos and man made orchested
desaster until 2033. 33 years to install the Old New Order 2000 year ago
and 33 years of propaganda to install the New World Oder.

another coincidence of the number 33, the The Georgia Guidestones
was built in March 22 ( S & B 322 ) 1980.

add 33 years we are up to 2013 march 22 (322 ) 3 month after 21 december 2012.

Could the world population will go down to 500 000 000.00 people
( sacrifice of 80 % of world population ) like the stone are saying...

A groupe of Freemason are suspected of being the donator of the stones
If Freemason are, deep hidden behind the Roman and Vatican empire,
and so without the majority of members being awared of this.

Vatican denying it to protect there images with a hypocrite attidude
making easier to control rebelions agains the catholic church.

The Templars gave a lot of power to the Roman church 1000 years ago
but civilisation knowing that it was the roman church empire behind the
Templars was a big problems so maybe the Freemason are the succesor
of the Templars but this time Rome is being smarter by dening there
affiliation with the organisation to easily pull the string of power of the
organisation and increase the influence and power they can have on
population and civilisation of the world......!

The Georgia Guidestones


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